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Linux in 2009: Recession vs. GNU
http://www.internetnews.com/bus-news/article.php/3793601 ^ | 12-29-09 | Bruce Byfield

Posted on 02/17/2009 9:50:31 AM PST by Brookhaven

Pundits and business executives alike are predicting gloomy economic times for 2009. But when the talk turns to free and open source software (FOSS), suddenly the mood brightens. Whether their concern is the business opportunities in open source or the promotion of free software idealism, experts see FOSS as starting from a strong base and actually benefiting from the hard times expected next year...

The idea that software available at no cost will become popular in a recession is a no-brainer...

Zemlin sees Linux and the FOSS ecosystem surrounding it as having insurmountable advantages in any market over its main competitor Windows -- advantages that an economic downturn only intensifies. At a time when a search for the lowest possible price point is happening in such areas as notebooks, FOSS is available at no cost. It is easy to rebrand and customize in a way that Windows Isn't, and is also technically more efficient...

As for advances on the desktop, Zemlin, like many, laughs at the long-predicted "Year of the Linux Desktop." However, he quickly adds that the year may have already passed in 2008 with the use of Linux in netbook computers...

Brown sees an opportunity to promote free software ideals in education...Why is it that we can send $100 laptops to the poor children of the world with an understanding that there's a new paradigm for learning, yet here in the United States, no conversation has been had about how we educate our children?"

Palamida recently conducted a survey among its client base of companies earning $50 million per year and higher in a variety of industries, particularly financial services. Of the IT managers who replied, 45 percent said they would consider open source as a cost-saving measure -- but nearly 55 percent said they would not.

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Linux/Open-Source software has a real opportunity to make serious headway this year. As businesses (and governments, especially state and local) are looking for areas to cut costs people are going to start asking hard questions. Looking at the financial bottom line.
1 posted on 02/17/2009 9:50:31 AM PST by Brookhaven
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To: Brookhaven
The idea that software available at no cost will become popular in a recession is a no-brainer...

Not such a no-brainer for some. Although savings may come in the long run with OSS, it costs money for most businesses to migrate platforms no matter what they're coming from or going to. With a recession, they might be more worried about spending the money they have right now rather than long-term savings.

2 posted on 02/17/2009 10:02:42 AM PST by antiRepublicrat ("I am a firm believer that there are not two sides to every issue..." -- Arianna Huffington)
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To: Brookhaven
Running Ubuntu 8.10 on a VMWare partition on an HP class C enclosure. MySql powering an internal IT website and a dotProject project management/ticketing/helpdesk suite.

Other than the original licensing for the ESX 3.5, ZERO software cost.

Contrast that to the Novell/Groupwise running on 3 of the other Blades and the up coming roll-over to MS 2008 and AD.

3 posted on 02/17/2009 10:03:25 AM PST by Dead Corpse (Utinam coniurati te in foro interficiant)
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To: Brookhaven

Let’s hope Linux makes headway.

The consumer is always better off with more competition.


4 posted on 02/17/2009 10:05:25 AM PST by ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton (To those who believe the world was safer with Saddam, get treatment for that!)
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To: Dead Corpse

How long you been using Eunuchs? And how much to train non-Eunuchs to be Eunuchs?

Think reasonable management might have an issue with all the retraining costs?


5 posted on 02/17/2009 10:22:31 AM PST by MarkeyD (Way to go Michael Steele! MS for President!)
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To: MarkeyD
Long-term ROI can't be beat. I've been using Linux variants for about ten years now. Mostly desktop, some in hardware/platform testing. Recently for LAMP implementations and server side open source apps.

How much of the Intarwebs run on Apache? How different is MySql or PostgreSQL from MS SQL?

6 posted on 02/17/2009 10:33:23 AM PST by Dead Corpse (Utinam coniurati te in foro interficiant)
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To: Dead Corpse
How different is MySql or PostgreSQL from MS SQL?

Depending on how extensively you use them, pretty different. It's not just the data storage, it's the syntax for views, stored procedures, triggers, user defined functions (if supported). Lots of work required for the migration. Then there is the driver issue, not all are fully implemented. Been there, done that.
7 posted on 02/17/2009 10:45:02 AM PST by MarkeyD (Way to go Michael Steele! MS for President!)
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To: MarkeyD

From what I’ve seen, the front end is different... The backend? Not so much.


8 posted on 02/17/2009 10:53:37 AM PST by Dead Corpse (Utinam coniurati te in foro interficiant)
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To: Dead Corpse

Still a lot of work to port a complex system from one db to another.


9 posted on 02/17/2009 10:57:06 AM PST by MarkeyD (Way to go Michael Steele! MS for President!)
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To: MarkeyD

From one version to another. Especially in Microsoft World. The headaches I’m dealing with now between older versions of Word/Excel and the extensible version in 2007? meh...


10 posted on 02/17/2009 11:00:00 AM PST by Dead Corpse (Utinam coniurati te in foro interficiant)
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To: Dead Corpse

So there are no versioning issues in Linux? Sign me up!


11 posted on 02/17/2009 11:05:52 AM PST by MarkeyD (Way to go Michael Steele! MS for President!)
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To: Brookhaven; rdb3; Calvinist_Dark_Lord; GodGunsandGuts; CyberCowboy777; Salo; Bobsat; JosephW; ...

12 posted on 02/17/2009 11:16:47 AM PST by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: MarkeyD

Of course there are. They just aren’t any worse than MS and actually less than Novell.


13 posted on 02/17/2009 11:30:57 AM PST by Dead Corpse (Utinam coniurati te in foro interficiant)
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To: MarkeyD; Dead Corpse
> How different is MySql or PostgreSQL from MS SQL?

Depending on how extensively you use them, pretty different. It's not just the data storage, it's the syntax for views, stored procedures, triggers, user defined functions (if supported). Lots of work required for the migration. Then there is the driver issue, not all are fully implemented. Been there, done that.

Don't forget Firebird SQL. It's my personal favorite.

The driver selection is very good. (ODBC, JDBC, .Net, Delphi/C++ Builder, Perl, Python, Ruby, etc.) Plus, it's multi-platform. There are 32-bit Windows, 64-bit Windows, Linux 32 and 64-bit, Mac OSX and Solaris binaries available.

14 posted on 02/17/2009 11:54:53 AM PST by TChris (So many useful idiots...)
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To: MarkeyD
How long you been using Eunuchs? And how much to train non-Eunuchs to be Eunuchs? Think reasonable management might have an issue with all the retraining costs?

Many years ago, you might have had an argument. Not today. If I could take my 70 year old Dad, and replace the Windows 2000 on his computer and install openSuSE in its place, and teach him how to use it, then the more tech savvy (compared to him) worker bees of today can be switched with less pain than you might think.

15 posted on 02/17/2009 11:59:58 AM PST by AFreeBird
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To: Brookhaven

Changing-over to Linux is only ‘free’ if you don’t include IT staff time, and lost productivity. People tend to look for security blankets in troubled times. Doesn’t bode well for Linux. We’ll see if MS’s agreement to quit harrassing them over Windows emulation changes that any.


16 posted on 02/17/2009 12:00:26 PM PST by CowboyJay (Blame me. I didn't vote for Perot.)
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Microsoft has been imposing significant migration expenses because of unnecessary changes between software versions.

It’s probably easier and cheaper to migrate from Office 2003 to OpenOffice.org than it is to migrate to Office 2007.


17 posted on 02/17/2009 12:03:01 PM PST by B Knotts (Worst economy since the Third Punic War)
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To: TChris
The product my company makes uses Firebird or MS SQL as it's db backend, so I know where you are coming from.

Our products are designed to adapt on the fly depending on the db being used, I had to write a layer which retrieves the appropriate SQL based on that backend, since the syntax between Firebird and MS SQL is different.
18 posted on 02/17/2009 12:12:12 PM PST by MarkeyD (Way to go Michael Steele! MS for President!)
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To: AFreeBird

But what about all the other apps (non MS) that have to ported/ supported?


19 posted on 02/17/2009 12:13:44 PM PST by MarkeyD (Way to go Michael Steele! MS for President!)
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To: MarkeyD
Depends on the apps. For a vast majority of the work force, open alternatives already exist; OpenOffice for example. Which they can transition to while still running their windows desktop BTW. Many backend server functions can probably be transitioned without the enduser's being any the wiser. And you don't have to cutover all at once, Linux and Windows can co-exist on the same network. And then there's VM's, I'm using Sun's VirtualBox on my Linux laptop to run W2K, for one or two apps I use on occasion for which their is no FOSS alternative, and one of those is a game.

Any app running in a modern GUI be it MAC, Windows or Linux, that is going to have a "similar" look and feel. Will tools and functions be located under the same menu tree as Office? No, but then again, MS likes to switch things around between versions anyway. So it's not so different.

Yes a transition will require thought and planning, just as any change to your data environment does. (Back when I worked at a multi-national, they wouldn't even allow new machines to have the latest version of windows, until and unless, it had been tested and vetted.) But migrating to Linux is not, IMHO, the insurmountable, or overly costly obstacle many make it out to be.

20 posted on 02/17/2009 12:37:01 PM PST by AFreeBird
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