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Jury: Rancher didn't violate illegal immigrants' rights
Houston Chronicle (AP Story) ^ | February 18, 2009 | Arthur Rotstein (AP)

Posted on 02/17/2009 10:58:37 PM PST by UCFRoadWarrior

TUCSON, Ariz. — A federal jury found Tuesday that a southern Arizona rancher didn't violate the civil rights of a group of illegal immigrants who said he detained them at gunpoint in 2004.....

The eight-member civil jury also found Roger Barnett wasn't liable on claims of battery and false imprisonment......

But the jury did find him liable on four claims of assault and four claims of infliction of emotional distress and ordered Barnett to pay $77,804 in damages — $60,000 of which were punitive.....

Barnett declined to comment afterward, but one of his attorneys, David Hardy, said the plaintiffs lost on the bulk of their claims and that Barnett has a good basis for appeal on the two counts on which he lost.....

(Excerpt) Read more at chron.com ...


TOPICS: Local News
KEYWORDS: illegalaliens; lawsuit; maldef; rancher
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Barnett seems to have won on the major claims by the illegals...but got decided against for their "mental distress". He plans to appeal that part of the verdict.

In all, Barnett fared well, but still you have people who value the rights of illegals over the rights of Americans.

1 posted on 02/17/2009 10:58:37 PM PST by UCFRoadWarrior
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To: UCFRoadWarrior

While the illegal immigrants did have civil rights, those rights cannot be denied them by a private citizen.


2 posted on 02/17/2009 11:01:37 PM PST by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at I00 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: UCFRoadWarrior

It was a fair decision. He had the right to detain them for trespassing but he didn’t have the right to verbally abuse them and threaten them, even if that threat was absurd.


3 posted on 02/17/2009 11:03:24 PM PST by DiogenesLaertius
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To: trumandogz

However a private citizen has a right to defend property from trespassers. If these were US citizens suing...the case would have been tossed out before trial.

Not only the illegals broke the law when they trespassed....they broke the law when illegally entering the country


5 posted on 02/17/2009 11:07:35 PM PST by UCFRoadWarrior (The Biggest Threat To American Soverignty Is Rampant Economic Anti-Americanism)
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To: DiogenesLaertius

This guy is going to spend $100,000 at a minimum to fight this ridiculous case. Hope he has some legal insurance.


6 posted on 02/17/2009 11:08:36 PM PST by roscommon
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To: trumandogz

But they can by a property owner and an American, it was citizens arrest. The man has a right to defend his property. Constitutional rights always trump civil rights. IN fact without a constitution, no one would have any rights. This whole case is an attack on US sovereignty, and the judge should have thrown it out. The illegals should be happy they were not shot for trespassing.


7 posted on 02/17/2009 11:14:40 PM PST by Exton1
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To: Jack Black

Barnett followup Ping.


8 posted on 02/17/2009 11:16:44 PM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Exton1

To be more clear, only the government can deny a person civil rights.

The citizenship status of the illegal aliens has no impact on the case as they are protected by the Constitution.


9 posted on 02/18/2009 12:08:26 AM PST by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at I00 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: DiogenesLaertius

“It was a fair decision. He had the right to detain them for trespassing but he didn’t have the right to verbally abuse them and threaten them, even if that threat was absurd.”

This is sarcasm,right?


10 posted on 02/18/2009 2:55:53 AM PST by shaft29 (Just your typical black woman.)
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To: DiogenesLaertius

So “Don’t try to run or I’ll shoot you” is verbally abusive?


11 posted on 02/18/2009 3:10:40 AM PST by panthermom
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To: UCFRoadWarrior; All

Hopefully one of these jury members and the judge has a similar incident in the future, I amazingly predict the their standards would change...

A land owner should be able to protect THEIR property through any form of force, whether it be lethal OR Verbal.

The Constitution is supposed to “Protect” the rights of Citizens... not give rights to Illegals!


12 posted on 02/18/2009 3:22:52 AM PST by AvOrdVet ("Put the wagons in a circle for all the good it'll do")
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To: UCFRoadWarrior
But the jury did find him liable on four claims of assault and four claims of infliction of emotional distress and ordered Barnett to pay $77,804 in damages — $60,000 of which were punitive..... Barnett declined to comment afterward, but ...

But no doubt considered the fact that he could buy several shovels and more than enough bullets to protect his family and his property for a whole lot less than $77,804.

13 posted on 02/18/2009 4:32:28 AM PST by TurtleUp
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To: UCFRoadWarrior

It’s way past time to start suing the local and federal authorities for intentionally not enforcing the law.


14 posted on 02/18/2009 5:05:20 AM PST by Rocketwolf68 (Bring back the crusades)
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“But no doubt considered the fact that he could buy several shovels and more than enough bullets to protect his family and his property for a whole lot less than $77,804.”

Brings whole new meaning to “shovel-ready” bailout projects.


15 posted on 02/18/2009 5:07:07 AM PST by Rocketwolf68 (Bring back the crusades)
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Comment # -- self censored by Arrowhead1952 ping.


16 posted on 02/18/2009 5:09:49 AM PST by Arrowhead1952 (Each "Yea" vote for porkulus is equivalent to $3,267,973,850. (D) = corruption)
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To: UCFRoadWarrior; roscommon

I tried to search to see if he had an insurance defense firm representing him, which might indicate that he had homeowners insurance that defended him on this case.

but my search of his attorney revealed a very interesting profile, and though an insured has the option to select his own counsel at the company’s expense, Hardy has a long and interesting political background, and probably took on this case as cause worth fighting for.

http://www.rickross.com/reference/waco/waco60.html

You can find out more about him from searching “David Hardy, attorney arizona”.


17 posted on 02/18/2009 5:33:03 AM PST by Canedawg (An acute case of ODS)
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To: roscommon

Mark Levin talked about this case.
I’d be willing to bet he’s going to help.


18 posted on 02/18/2009 5:42:53 AM PST by netmilsmom (Psalm 109:8 - Let his days be few; and let another take his office)
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To: trumandogz

>>The citizenship status of the illegal aliens has no impact on the case as they are protected by the Constitution.<<

Could you please give a reference to where the Constitution talks about civil rights for illegal aliens?


19 posted on 02/18/2009 5:46:45 AM PST by netmilsmom (Psalm 109:8 - Let his days be few; and let another take his office)
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To: UCFRoadWarrior

illegal= no rights.

shoot on sight.


20 posted on 02/18/2009 5:48:19 AM PST by bestintxas (It's great in Texas)
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