Posted on 02/27/2009 6:25:03 PM PST by Big_Monkey
Ok, ok, there are lots of beekeepers in Texas. Reputable honey bee queen breeders, too. But wouldn't there be a better place or way to give assistance towards the problem of diminishing honey bees? It's not about the honey, it's about the pollination as much as anything.
I didn’t know or bother to learn the cast of characters within the McCain campaign, partially out of laziness, partially because I didn’t much care about the internals of the machine, but mostly because it became clear that it was to be a “hold your nose and vote” exercise. I hadn’t voted in the last 3 or 4 elections but I felt highly compelled to do what I could to keep Obama out. I was so alarmed by how mysteriously hidden all his vitals were pre-election (and still are) and was equally alarmed by the stuff he said, his associations, and his total lack of experience. I was really buoyed by McCain’s initial hearty and principled opposition to bailout #1 [I’m not sure if that was the same as the “TARP”...as if it matters] because here was something he could distinguish himself on. And then he folded like your proverbial cheap suit. Even then, Obama was never a shred of a choice for me, but as far as I could see, McCain evaporated himself at that cave-in juncture. He might as well have screamed like Howard Dean for what that did for his chances.
You are very right. By the way, if it works on chickens__t, please send it down to Arkansas.
We were in a tough position. The market was falling -200 points every other day. McCain needed to show the people he was doing something. Mac had his economic advisers (Romney included). President Bush and Romney urged Mac to go along with the first bailout. Mac’s campaign decided to gamble on portraying himself as a person committed to solving problems and rising above partisan politics. Hence his suspended campaign and cancelling the 1st debate. That blunder showed him to be desperate and clueless. The political consultants during the Bush era were really bad. Steele was right in cleaning house at the RNC.
“Many don’t want to face the hard reality that McCain and rinos delivered Obama the Presidency on a silver plater. If you stand for nothing you fall for anything”
I’m no great political analyst, but IMHO, this was one of those weird twists of history where the momentum and mishmosh of events overtook any reference to sanity. I totally agree with your statement above on a personal basis; but in the deteriorating economic climate right around the election as represented so blatantly by the stock market tanking, I’m afraid that “we have to change” was going to beat “stand for (y)our principles”. A clone of Ronald Reagan could have run against Alfred E. Neuman and quite possibly would have lost, just because the ennui with GW was so vivid, and the Dems, let’s face it, welded McCain to that ennui very effectively. Oh yeah, and McCain was about as inspiring as a plate of cold toast.
Yes, Steele did a very good thing. So did Romney recommend this to McCain to tank McCain? or did he really think McCain should vote for it? This is important to know, when taken in context of the stories it was Romney people who worked for McCain behind tanking Palin; either way it shows we were just as well off not to nominate Romney.
Bail out #1 and TARP is the same thing. I have never missed an election, and I’ve had some real nose-holders lately — I wasn’t thrilled when I pulled the lever for #43 the first time.
There is that. But it goes much deeper. We "hire" these people to swear on The Constitution and uphold it. When McCain crossed over to compromise with the left he lost credibility with me. They are supposed to work under strict guidelines. That has not occurred for many years.
In Sept Oct of 2008, Romney was on the cable shows advocating for the bailout of banks. Back in Jan 2008, Romney advocated for bailing out the auto industries in Michigan. Now he opposes the auto bailout and stimilus plan from the Messiah. I don’t see Romney as a conservative or liberal. I see Romney as a man who caves in to outside pressure.
You’re right, of course. And so this was yet another nauseating example of the double standard of Dem vs Rep writ larger than large. Indeed, McCain showed he could and would abandon his principles and the way he played it, his abandonment was dramatically magnified. And 0bama? He never held himself out as having principles in the first place other than happy hopey changeness and so couldn’t be seen as abandoning them since there weren’t any to abandon. Sick.
BTW did you listen to any of the CPAC speeches? Mike Pence gave one of the best IMO .. Newt's was good, but Pence had more passion:
http://www.redstate.com/erick/2009/02/27/mike-pence-at-cpac/
The tragedy here is too many dopes followed this snake oil peddler to the loss of us all.
It would seem so.
With genuine respect, truly -- how do you think we got to this point? I certainly helped get us here, I admit, with my votes in the past.
We can and should give money to candidates who uphold the princples, we should vote thoughtfully in the primaries, we should write letters to the editor, we should do what we can to promote those Republicans who are right. But when it comes down to the bottom line, no matter what we do, the real thing happens in the voting booth.
The vote is the only thing you or I have to actually play a part in steering the GOP course. That's it. There is no other mechanism but the vote. As long as liberalism wins, we will elect liberals. Liberalism is winning in the GOP because party voters like me are blackmailed into it. Newt is doing it. He means well, and he may be right, but the older I get, the more I doubt it.
Sure, McCain would be better in the short run. But the long term consequences for the GOP would have been this: Liberalism won again -- validation. GOP must continue to be moderate reach-out liberal with regard to expanded government in order to win.
I want that to lose. My vote now goes elsewhere because it is the only tool I have to change the course of the GOP, and a change in course is the only thing that's going to save this country.
Az Car, you and I both know Romney to be a fraud. If it had been Romney instead of McCain on Nov. 4, would you have voted for him? Knowing that THAT was the message, that this was the direction that was going to work for the GOP, and therefore for the future freedom and trust of the country under the Republican party banner?
I love Beck. It won't be long before BOR is jealous of GB.
I have been watching Glen Beck on Fox almost every day and I LOVE HIM!
Ya gotta love a recovering AADD Mormon alcoholic with a Mensa I. Q. LOL!
You got the I.Q. part right.
BOR to Beck: Focus!
Beck: I'm AADD! I can't focus!
McCain’s words mean nothing to me. When he manages to “reach across the isle”, bust a few heads, and gets a bill through that actually reduces spending I might start listening to him again. That isn’t going to happen any time soon. So, again, may I reiterate: Juan needs to STHU.
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