The Newest Trailer for Star Trek is Up and...Holy Cow!!

Apple.com Trailers ^ | 03/06/09

[Reaganesque]

Click here for the new kick-*** trailer for Star Trek!

Must have Quicktime. Available in HD.

[PapaBear3625]

As I recall he was supposed to have reprogrammed the computer so that his ‘win’ could be achieved. That story line never played well with me. If Sulu or some other individual had done it, it would seem more realistic. I don’t see Kirk as much of a computer nerd.

It might not have been so much of a software challenge as much as having the skill to infiltrate a restricted area in order to get the access to make the change -- which WAS a Kirk skill in the original series.

[<1/1,000,000th%]

LOL!

That about covers it.

[PapaBear3625]

The test wasn’t devised to see how you win. It was devised to see how people held up under circumstances that led to defeat. This is a critical aspect of leadership.

I could see the instructors being sufficiently impressed at Kirk's ability to think outside the box (and thus snatch victory where everyone else has been defeated) that they would give him a pass on this.

It is better to have an officer who is very good at not losing, than one who has proven his ability to gracefully accept the deaths of his command.

[DoughtyOne]

I appreciate the premise. That kind of an observation was made up thread, and I responded to it.

I’ve pretty much said too much here on this already. It’s a discussion on an aspect of science fiction, that I think touches on ethics.

Take care.

[longtermmemmory]

McCain vs Reagan

[zeugma]

BFL

[zeugma]

The original series was basically a western done in space.

Did you watch Firefly?

Truely a space western. Joss Whedon rocks.

[redangus]

Well I hope the Vulcans are somewhere in the neighborhood keeping an eye on things:).

[RobRoy]

I haven’t had TV since 1997. Someone loaned me a dvd of that series though. I now own the series and the movie. Seen the series at least five times now.

Incredible show.

[kalee]

ping

[Poser]

Sylar as Spock is good casting.

[razorboy]

Fear, anger and hate “Day of the Dove”. One of the more entertaining episodes both for the story (which is one of the better ones) and the gaffs (like Klingon make-up sticking to the wall during one of the fight scenes). Later ripped off for the painfully boring Farscape episode “Crackers don’t Matter”.

[Pyro7480]

DS9 is my new favorite, as it is the least utopian of the ST spinoffs. I grew up liking ST:TNG, and even though I still watch it, it has a fallen a few notches, in my view. I didn’t watch enough Voyager to develop a consistent opinion. They had some good stories, from what I saw, but also some really bad ones. Enterprise had potential which they squandered.

[redangus]

My point was that many great military leaders found their home during times of war after years of being ignored or worst because of their inability or unwillingness to play politics and kiss butt. I am well aware of most of the educational backgrounds that you pointed out. Of course you didn't mention that in the case of Grant he was near the bottom of his class and that Patton was considered a loose cannon that had to be controlled until it was discovered he could beat the Wehrmacht at their own game. Bull Halsey was impetuous and rash. The Japanese planned on that at Midway, but unlucky for them he was laid up at the time. Later in the war he almost lost the Philippines because of that same rashness. Montgomery was an egotistical megalomaniac unliked by almost everyone he dealt with including Churchill. NBF was known as a violent man, a business speculator and a Mississippi gambler who started with nothing and made a fortune prior to the civil war. None of this in anyway diminishes their accomplishments on the battlefield, but they were not angels, and many had troubles outside of their areas of expertise, i.e. being innovative commanders, leading men in battle and more often than not winning.

I try not to draw to many connections between real life and fantasy, but I think JT Kirk would fit right in with most of these men on poker night.

[razorboy]

I thought within canon Koubayashi Maru was basically step last, you take the test, they decide from that whether or not you’re really cut out for command and one way or the other tomorrow is graduation day. So there wouldn’t necessarily be a lot of time for upper classmen to ruin it for lower. How Kirk found out is never explained, except it’s pretty well stated that he was a climber from the start and good at making connections.

[Frank L]

>I wonder how far they will take this premise into the movie. Is he a rag tag scoundrel until he is gifted leadership? Once again, not a very good message for children viewing the movie.

I liked the way his growing up was handled in “Best Destiny.” I know, not canon. He was a scoundrel, pure and simple. A gangster. A hood. Because he went to space and almost got executed by Kodos. Five years or so later, his dad drags him to space again and the young hoodlum is forced to grow up fast or he, his Dad, Captain Robert April, and a few others are going to die. One of the turning points is when Jimmie meets the pirates and realizes he was looking at his potential future.

[longtermmemmory]

without going into a spoiler toooo much, supposedly kirk is challenged to accomplish something in X number of years and cadet kirk responds he will do it in x-2 years.

(something like that.)

The BIG SPOILER RUMOR is that there is some sort of temporal manipulation going on with regards to kirk’s life.

[razorboy]

There better not be temporal anything. Enterprise the show was pretty enjoyable until they start the temporal crap. I will be one disappointed nerd if anybody even says tempura during the movie, too close to temporal something they screwed up way to much already.

[Frank L]

>Actually, I would say he is more of a Volcan. Logical, superficially impressive, but ultimately clueless. At least the Ferrengei understand free markets...

They did until Ishka became the Grand Negus’ love interest. She stroked his lobes and pushed for “reform” and “social programs.” Then my favorite society in ST went down the tubes and became a mini-Federation. Quark’s bar was the last outpost of what made Ferenginar great!

[zeugma]

I haven’t had TV since 1997. Someone loaned me a dvd of that series though. I now own the series and the movie. Seen the series at least five times now.

Excellent. Wish there was more stuff like that out there.