Posted on 03/06/2009 1:26:41 PM PST by lowbridge
British Columbia:
http://www.health.gov.bc.ca/waitlist/
Here's one for Cardiac surgery:
http://www.health.gov.bc.ca/waitlist/cardiac.html
Here's Ontario:
http://www.health.gov.on.ca/transformation/wait_times/wait_mn.html
Click in here, and click on "Wait Times In your Area". Then click on "Find By Map Location", and pick out an area at random. See how much time one has to wait for cancer surgery
http://www.health.gov.on.ca/transformation/wait_times/public/wt_public_mn.html
Here's a site that gives you the average wait times for whatever ails you in Alberta:
http://www.ahw.gov.ab.ca/waitlist/AccessGoalCharts.jsp
Here is one example
And just plain old urgency 1:
(I dont have the time to go through and post all the provinces and territories. You'll have to google them)
bump for later
Guess we’ll all be flying to India for our medical care. Maybe Americans and Canadians can charter a plane depending on one’s illness: The Gall Bladder Express, The Prostate Dash, The Problem Pregnancy Get-Away, etc.
(yes I know emergency surgery probably gets expedited)
But Husseins plan will work just fine! Just make sure you don’t get sick!
But Husseins plan will work just fine! Just make sure you don’t get sick!
...or old!
Wherever you find nationalized health care, there you also find waiting lists for the most mundane procedures.
for later
coming soon to a community to you.
remember....if you die, you won’t be needing any bennies.
BRILLIANT!!!
But most Canadians are happy just not to hassle with routine bills and don’t care if the really sick die because they were probably smokers anyway and it won’t be me for a long long time.
Ping
Why are waiting times in the US never posted. As if they don’t exist.
American Wait Times
Here’s a fun puzzle. Fill in the blanks in the statement below:
In his talk, __________ conceded that “the ___ healthcare system is not timely.” He cited “recent statistics from the Institution of Healthcare Improvement… that people are waiting an average of about 70 days to try to see a provider. And in many circumstances people initially diagnosed with cancer are waiting over a month.”
If you said “Troy Brennan, CEO of Aetna,” and “United States,” you’d be right! If you said Canada, or Britain, you’d be wrong. The article goes on:
A Commonwealth Fund study of six highly industrialized countries, the U.S., and five nations with national health systems, Britain, Germany, Australia, New Zealand, and Canada, found waiting times were worse in the U.S. than in all the other countries except Canada. And, most of the Canadian data so widely reported by the U.S. media is out of date, and misleading, according to PNHP and CNA/NNOC.
In Canada, there are no waits for emergency surgeries, and the median time for non-emergency elective surgery has been dropping as a result of public pressure and increased funding so that it is now equal to or better than the U.S. in most areas, the organizations say. Statistics Canada’s latest figures show that median wait times for elective surgery in Canada is now three weeks.
“There are significant differences between the U.S. and Canada, too,” said Burger. “In Canada, no one is denied care because of cost, because their treatment or test was not ‘pre-approved’ or because they have a pre-existing condition.”
A recent Business Week article arrived at similar conclusion:
[B]oth data and anecdotes show that the American people are already waiting as long or longer than patients living with universal health-care systems. Take Susan M., a 54-year-old human resources executive in New York City. She faithfully makes an appointment for a mammogram every April, knowing the wait will be at least six weeks. She went in for her routine screening at the end of May, then had another because the first wasn’t clear. That second X-ray showed an abnormality, and the doctor wanted to perform a needle biopsy, an outpatient procedure. His first available date: mid-August.
The article continues on” “If you find a suspicious-looking mole and want to see a dermatologist, you can expect an average wait of 38 days in the U.S., and up to 73 days if you live in Boston, according to researchers at the University of California at San Francisco who studied the matter. Got a knee injury? A 2004 survey by medical recruitment firm Merritt, Hawkins & Associates found the average time needed to see an orthopedic surgeon ranges from 8 days in Atlanta to 43 days in Los Angeles. Nationwide, the average is 17 days.”
One important note on our system’s wait times is that, unlike in other countries, we don’t collect the data. “There is no systemized collection of data on wait times in the U.S,” says Business Week. “That makes it difficult to draw comparisons with countries that have national health systems, where wait times are not only tracked but made public.” That’s a side benefit of the universal systems, which due to their coherence and incentives, are actually quite transparent. That allows not only for an accurate assessment of the problems, but the effective deployment of resources to treat them.
And by the way, want to know which country has the lowest wait times in international comparisons? Hint: It’s where sauerkraut comes from.
Probably what will happen is that Zerobama’s/Reid’s/Pelosi’s nationalized health care will be the shot in the arm for Mexico’s recovery. Many, many doctors will move south of the border and set up hospitals and clinics. What we are doing today for Canada’s waitlisted patients the expat doctors in Mexico will be doing for both the Canadian waitlisted and US waitlisted.
It doesn't make sense. I am on a 300 day waiting list for an MRI on my knee, which will be followed by a long wait to see the specialist, who will eventually book my surgery.
Americans I speak to tell me they have MRI’s within a week-10 days.
It's usually more effective to let them discover this on their own than argue the point.
That, or I let one of our co-workers tell the story about how her parents were offered the choice of paying for the birth of her brother versus having the government foot the bill. They chose to go to the government clinic even though they realized they would get much better service at the private hospital. The reason? They decided to use the money saved to purchase a new TV.
You can't make this stuff up. Well, you could, but you don't have to.
On the other hand my Ex , who was at the time about 56, had both her knees done , one at a time, because of severe arthritis , in about 8 months. But it was done in Southern Ontario.
The Old Guy had a MRI last fall in Sudbury . He might have waited a couple of weeks at most. There was more concern about the shrapnel in his legs meeting up with the MRI and making sure he got a muffin and tea than the length of wait . I know the wait in Timmins was a week at most.
As I said a lot of wait is caused by the Doctor and his connections and where you live.
Do a search on American wait times , the shortage of doctors and procedures delayed by insurance companies . Interesting reading .
bookmarmk
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