Texas bills would allow guns at college

“Everything happens too quickly,” Woods said. “You either play dead or you are dead.”

Woods is full of crap all through the article. Wasn’t it students and citizens with deer rifles that laid down all the suppressive fire so that somebody could get close enough to whack Whitman.

Any liberal with a room temperature IQ can claim to be an intellectual these days.

And do you suppose the Sniper back then would have cared if he broke ONE more LAW?

Of course not, he would have brought the rifle to the tower regardless of the law.

The only thing that changes is honest citizens now have no opportunity to defend themselves

Just before Texas made it legal to carry, there was a woman at a LUBY’s cafeteria in Waco, where a shooter started randomly shooting one day......She stated to the newspapers that she could have stopped him, but her gun was in her car, because it was not legal for her to carry.......

You are thinking of the Luby’s in Killeen, TX. I ate their regularly with my family in the months prior to the shooting; several people I knew from Church were shot.

Also, the woman you are thinking of is Dr. Suzanna Gratia Hupp.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M1u0Byq5Qis
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suzanna_Hupp

I currently attend UT Austin for graduate school; there are a large number of graduate students with CHLs here that are hoping this law passes.

Thanks,

paridel

Yup, even Wikipedia mentions it: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Whitman

“Once Whitman began facing return gunfire from the authorities and civilians who had brought out their personal firearms to assist police, he used the waterspouts on each side of the tower as gun ports, allowing him to continue shooting largely protected from the gunfire below but also greatly limiting his range of targets. Ramiro Martinez, an officer who confronted Whitman, later stated in his book that the civilian shooters should be credited, as they made it difficult for Whitman to take careful aim without being hit.”

Most of the civilian and police bullet strikes on the tower have never been repaired. If you go there today, you will still see the scars from where average men and women took up their own arms and suppressed a sniper long enough for three policemen and a *civilian* to get up to the tower and finish the job.

If the civilians (students and neighbors of the college) had not had access to firearms, Whitman could have killed *hundreds*. Here’s the complete list of what the psycho had brought with him to the tower:

Report made by Officer Ligon regarding contents of trunk ( as listed) and guns found scattered around observation deck:

1. Channel Master 14 Transistor AM-FM Radio (portable) brown case
Original police report
2. Robinson Reminder (note book, no writing)
3. White 3.5 gallon plastic water jug (full water)
4. Red 3.5 gallon plastic gas jug (full gas)
5. Sales slip from Davis Hardware for August 1, 1966
6. 4 “C” cell flashlight battery
7. Several lengths of cotton and nylon ropes (different lengths)
8. One plastic compass (”Wonda-scope”)
9. One paper mate ball point (black)
10. Hatchet
11. (Nesco) Machette with green scabbard
12. (Hercules) hammer
13. Green ammunition box with gun cleaning equipment
14. Alarm Clock , “Gene” brand
15. Cigarette lighter
16. Canteen with water
17. Rifle Scabbard, green, “Sears”
18. Hunting knife (Camallus) with brown scabbard and whitt stone
19. Large knife (Randall) with bone handle name of CHARLES J. WHITMAN on blade with brown scabbard with whitt stone
20. Large pocket nknife (Wooden handle) lock blade
21. Pipe wrench (10”)
22. Pair eye glasses, brown frame and brown case
23. Box of kitchen matches
24. 12 Assorted cans of food and two cans Sego, jar honey
25. One can charcoal starter
26. White and green 6-volt flashlight
27. One set ear plugs
28. Two rolls tape (white adhesive)
29. Approximately one foot long solid steel bar
30. Army green rubber daffle bag
31. Green extension cord
32. Lengths of clothes line wire and yellow electrical wire
33. Bread- sweet rolls
34. Gray gloves
35. Deer bag (same bag)
36. 6MM Remington, (full 20 box) shells - ammunition

* 35 Remington (full box) shells
* 35 Remington (full box) shells-”Peters”
* 35 Remington (full box) shells
* 357 Mag (Peters 50 rounds) full box
* 357 Mag Western (full box)
* 357 Mag Western (7 shells)
* 30 Caliber “Peters” (2 full boxes)
* Box Western 25 caliber auto. (approximately 40 in box)
* Box Remington 9mm Luger (full box)
* Box 35 Western two shells

PRINTED ON TRUNK:

L/CPL. CHARLES J. WHITMAN
USMC - 1871634
Marine Bks.
Navy 115, Box 32-A
FPO, NY, N.Y.

To: Mrs C.A. WHITMAN, Jr.

P.O. Box 1065
Lake Worth, FLA. USA

(Insured Tag #10372 - May 17, 1961 - N.Y. N.Y.)

GUNS FOUND AROUND BODY:

1. Remington Model 700 - 6MM, Bolt action #149037, with Leupold four power - M8-4X scope, cheek stock (serial #61384) and leather strap.
2. Sears 12 gauge 2.75 chamber automatic shotgun, barrel and stock, both sawed off
3. Remington 35 caliber model 141 pump #1859 rifle
4. U.S. Carbine 30 caliber M-1 Universal #69799 with Webb sling.
5. 357 Mag Smith and Weston 4.5 barrel, chrome, Model 19 #K391583
6. 9MM Luger #2010
7. 6.35 MM Caliber Automatic pistol - Galesi-brescia #366869

The following items belonging to CHARLES JOSEPH WHITMAN, were tagged and placed in CID.

1. 1-15 round clip 30 cal carbine loaded with hollow points
2. 1-30 round clip, 30 cal carbine loaded with hollow points
3. 1-30 round cilp 30 cal carbine loaded with lead nose bullets
4. 2- clips 9mm Luger loaded, one clip had X cut on bullet
5. 1-clip 25 cal. loaded
6. 1- pair light brown leather gloves
7. 1-Cartridge belt with 22 round of 6 mm ammunition
8. 1- Shoulder holster for 357 Magnum with ammunition holder with 11 rounds of ammunition
9. 1- pair Kirby 7x35 Field Glasses
10. 1- knapsack and web belt and canteen holder, also one US compas with canvas case and B-D snake bite kit in canvas cask on belt
11. Items in knapsack

4- 30 rd clips for 30 cal carbine,
1- small package of toilet paper
1- Mirach can opener
1- soap dish with some pills and other items
1- Queen #19 pocket knife
1- sunglasses
1- foot paper
1- Guillet razor
18-round 12 ga Winchester #4 buckshot shells
4-35 Remington shells
44 rounds 6mm shells
6 rounds 357 Magnum
7 round 30 cal carbine ammunition
5 hulls 6 mm

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The man had literally hundreds of rounds of ammunition with him. He could literally have been shooting all day.