The only thing I was trying to say in my original response on this thread is that not all gay people are pedophiles, and not all pedophiles are gay people. To think otherwise is, frankly, ridiculous.
And, that I’m also not sure people are correct when they say homosexuals are more likely to be pedophiles than any other demographic of people. I don’t recall reading anything over the last 20 years or so on this subject (admittedly I haven’t read EVERYTHING, and ), but I recall nothing that would support this idea.
So... I am simply asking that if those saying that there is MORE of an incidence of gays than in any other groups have facts would they please share them on the thread...
I have NEVER said that there are not Adult Male Homosexuals that target children of either, or both sexes. What I am saying is what proof is there that the incidence is any greater among that segment of the population than other groups (Heterosexual Males, Heterosexual Females, Bisexuals, Transsexual; substitute whatever other “sexual proclivity” group you want frankly...).
I don’t know why people are so insistent on pushing the “gay” side of this issue, frankly. Or, why some people are jumping all over me for stating a simple fact that not all homosexuals are pedophiles, and not all pedophiles are homosexuals.
Unless, of course, that IS what you are saying. And if it is, then I wish you luck PROVING an all-inclusive statement. I would say the burden of proof should be on the one making the all-inclusive statement shouldn’t it? Because to be able to prove that would be ground-breaking stuff in the history of mankind.
Normal people have not had a NAMBLA as a part of their movement for decades, homosexuals have.
Allen Ginsberg was promoted as an active homosexual and kept in the public eye as a prominent leftist from the 50s until his death in 1997 and the mainstream media hid his NAMBLA membership from us even as he gave speeches and wrote pieces promoting NAMBLA to select audiences.
Homosexuals and child molesters move pretty freely together. From NAMBLA to public efforts (and successes) to create schools for "gay youth" that can be placed under the tutelage of homosexuals and lesbians, they play an entirely different game under entirely different rules than straights do.
Here is a starting point.
http://www.traditionalvalues.org/urban/nine.php
1. Homosexuals account for only 1-2% of our population based on current surveys. The National Opinion Research Center in 1992 found that 2.8% of men and 1.4% of women identified themselves as “homosexual” or “bisexual. A 1995 survey of 18-49-year-old men published by the Journal of Sex Research indicated that 2.6% of them had engaged in homosexual sex within the prior 12 months; 4% had homosexual sex within the past five years. In other words, at least 98-99% of our population is heterosexual in orientation.
Homosexual activists routinely claim that most child molesters are “heterosexual” males, thus shifting the focus away from their own very high rates of molestation. Since 98-99% of the population is heterosexual, it is technically correct to say that most molestations are done by heterosexuals. However, statistics indicate that homosexuals pose a far more serious threat to children than do heterosexuals.
For example: In 1987, Dr. Stephen Rubin of Whitman College conducted a ten-state study of sex abuse cases involving school teachers. He studied 199 cases. Of those, 122 male teachers had molested girls, while 14 female teachers had molested boys. He also discovered that 59 homosexual male teachers had molested boys and four female homosexual teachers had molested girls. In other words, 32 percent of those child molestation cases involved homosexuals. Nearly a third of these cases come from only 1-2% of the population.
Dr. Judith Reisman, in her book, Kinsey, Crimes & Consequences, describes the research done by Dr. Gene Abel. This researcher compared the molestation rates of self-confessed homosexual and heterosexual child molesters. In a sample of 153 homosexual molesters, they confessed to a total of 22,981 molestations. This is equivalent to 150 children per molester. Self-admitted heterosexual molesters admitted to 4,435 molestations. This comes to 19.8 victims per molester. Dr. Abel concluded that homosexuals “sexually molest young boys at an incidence that is occurring from five times greater than the molestation of girls.”
This high rate of molestations by homosexuals is consistent with other studies conducted during the past several decades. Here are just a few studies that show homosexuals molesting children at epidemic rates:
The Los Angeles Times conducted a survey in 1985 of 2,628 adults across the U.S. Of those, 27% of the women and 16% of the men had been sexually molested. Seven percent of the girls and 93% of the men had been molested by adults of the same sex. This means that 40% of child molestations were by homosexuals. (Los Angeles Times, August 25-6, 1985)
In 1984, a Vermont survey of 161 adolescents who were sex offenders found that 35 of them were homosexuals (22%). (Wasserman, J., “Adolescent Sex Offenders—Vermont, 1984” Journal American Medical Association, 1986; 255:181-2)
In 1991, of the 100 child molesters at the Massachusetts Treatment Center for Sexually Dangerous Persons, a third were heterosexual, a third were bisexual, and a third were homosexual. (Dr. Raymond Knight, “Differential Prevalence of Personality Disorders in Rapists and Child Molesters,” Eastern Psychological Association Conference, New York, April 12, 1991)
Drs. Freund and Heasman of the Clark Institute of Psychiatry in Toronto reviewed two studies on child molesters and calculated that 34% and 32% of the sex offenders were homosexual. In cases these doctors had handled, 36% of the molesters were homosexuals. (Freund, K. “Pedophilia and Heterosexuality vs. Homosexuality,” Journal of Sex & Marital Therapy, 1984; 10:193-200)
From these studies and many more, it is evident that homosexuals molest children at a far greater rate than do their heterosexual counterparts. While they comprise only 1-2% of the population, they are responsible for upwards of a third or more of all sexual molestations of children.