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Carter or Obama?
13 Apr 09 | Mind Freed

Posted on 04/13/2009 1:59:46 PM PDT by Mind Freed

I was born the year Reagan took office. Needless to say I don't remember much of the President that I have heard things about that make me wish I was born sooner so I can remember him. Since I don't remember Reagan, I also don't know how much he had to do to fix what Carter did. I'm trying to get more information on how Obama is acting like Carter, or acting worse. And... Is Obama on a road to make Carter look like he was a good President?


TOPICS: Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: carter; obama

1 posted on 04/13/2009 1:59:46 PM PDT by Mind Freed
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To: Mind Freed

You were born the year Reagan took office? Sorry, but that made me so jealous, I didn’t read the rest of your post.


2 posted on 04/13/2009 2:02:14 PM PDT by Oldpuppymax (AGENDA OF THE LEFT EXPOSED)
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To: Mind Freed

Carter so far is worse. However, Obama has just started. Of course I was in sixth Grade when Carter was done, but I remember those damn gas lines when my Dad needed to fill up. A nine year old does not appreciate waiting an hour for gas that is for sure.


3 posted on 04/13/2009 2:03:19 PM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: Mind Freed

It’s your own fault for being born so late.


4 posted on 04/13/2009 2:04:23 PM PDT by Krankor (iT EMINDS ME)
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To: Mind Freed

Gas Lines.....Odd and Even Days to get gas...Iran taking American hostages and Carter doing nothing....Fireside chats where Carter tells the American people to “sacrifice”....Interest rates skyrockets....unemployment skyrockets...inflation...


5 posted on 04/13/2009 2:06:22 PM PDT by Dallas59 ("You know the one with the big ears? He might be yours, but he ain't my president.")
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To: Mind Freed
Too bad you are not about 15 years older. Reagan was the last REAL PRESIDENT we had. And by President, I mean one that cared about AMERICA FIRST, cared about our CONSTITUTION, hated COMMUNISM, and knew that the simple path to a thriving and prosperous and free nation was FAR LESS GOVERNMENT and LOWER TAXATION. Less government intrusion in our lives.

Look at what it has gotten us now. A STATE OF TOTAL DISASTER and OPPRESSIVE GOVERNMENT that thinks we exist to serve it — not the other way around. Reagan knew better, that the government was by and FOR THE PEOPLE.

Carter was small potatoes compared to the damage already here and coming out way with Obama. His twisted ideology, racism and hate for America's greatness and success will make Carter look like chump change. I heard a black commentator say the other night in the best terms, “The United States could not have picked a more disastrous president than Obama”. The truth lies not only in what he clearly professes, but his past associations, his mentors, and their socialist/communist ideology. Terrorists, radicals, traitors, criminals, and America haters -— a real credential of association.

America has brought this upon itself. It will be up to the people to fix it. I would much rather have Carter or Clinton back in the White House than Obama -— any day.

6 posted on 04/13/2009 2:08:02 PM PDT by EagleUSA
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To: Mind Freed

Carter was an incompetent liberal with no particular goal other than to avoid the mistakes of Nixon. Obama is an incompetent liberal with the intention of outright detroying American Judeo-Christian culture and rebuilding it into a racist afro-islamo-marxist one.


7 posted on 04/13/2009 2:08:12 PM PDT by Kirkwood
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To: Mind Freed

Carter actually started off fairly strong in office (for him) in 1977-1978, and there was not a terrible economic or foreign crisis like we have today, so some comparisons are tough to make. He really fell apart in 1979-1980, for a slew of well-documented foreign and domestic problems. The reputation he gained for being weak in his first two years fatally undid him in his second two years. One shared characteristic they both have: they both want to lecture Americans on how they need to sacrifice and get used to being second-rate. Of course, that gets old fast with the electorate!


8 posted on 04/13/2009 2:08:47 PM PDT by PC99
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To: Mind Freed
EPIC GREATNESS

9 posted on 04/13/2009 2:11:03 PM PDT by MikeWUSAF (Extreme vitriol and rancorous replies served daily. - Mike W USAF)
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To: Mind Freed

You might be surprised... LOL...

See my list of Presidential Crises and see where Reagan and Clinton and Bush and Obama fit in there...

A previous post of mine below...

Well, an interesting thing happened on the way to Free Republic for me, a few days ago..., it just started with a simple post and two little items on it... I never intended for the following list to come about... LOL...

Here’s where it all started, and then some FReepers started giving me some more events.. :-)

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2226437/posts?page=5#5

THEN... it turned into this...

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2226437/posts?page=135#135

Carter is on there, along with Ford, Nixon, Johnson, Kennedy, Eisenhower ...


10 posted on 04/13/2009 2:11:33 PM PDT by Star Traveler
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To: MikeWUSAF

Well, we needed “EPIC GREATNESS” because he encountered ‘EPIC PROBLEMS” while in office... :-)

See my chart, referenced in my post #10, just above...


11 posted on 04/13/2009 2:13:06 PM PDT by Star Traveler
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To: PC99

Compare my chart, referenced in post #10, for some interesting comparisons of the “Presidential Crises” for the various Presidents...


12 posted on 04/13/2009 2:14:02 PM PDT by Star Traveler
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To: Mind Freed





13 posted on 04/13/2009 2:16:10 PM PDT by Dallas59 ("You know the one with the big ears? He might be yours, but he ain't my president.")
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To: Krankor

Thanks


14 posted on 04/13/2009 2:19:17 PM PDT by Mind Freed ("Every man has the right to be a fool 5 minutes a day. Wisdom is not exceeding the limit.")
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To: Dallas59
Obama will make Carter look good.

Oh my, what did I just say...

15 posted on 04/13/2009 2:19:58 PM PDT by Taylor42
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To: PC99

Yes. Being lectured by Carter about how “we the people” were stuck in a “malaise” and needed to sacrifice and quit being so spoiled, needed to wear sweaters and turn down the heat . . then Reagan came along and told us “we the people” were more than OKAY, that it was Carter who was stuck in the malaise, that America was dear, a shining city on a hill, the last best hope of mankind for liberty. It wasn’t hard to have REAL HOPE with Reagan, and he came along, knocked Khadafi’s and his ilk’s turbans on crooked, got us out of Carter’s “malaise” and that was it. That’s why those of us who loved Reagan are having a very hard time with Obama’s apparent “destroy America” tour and mission. (I credit the military with freeing the captain and expect Obama to have dropped any pretension of dealing harshly with such terrorists ASAP.)


16 posted on 04/13/2009 2:20:38 PM PDT by Twinkie (HITLER WAS A COMMUNITY ORGANIZER.)
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17 posted on 04/13/2009 2:21:49 PM PDT by qam1 (There's been a huge party. All plates and the bottles are empty, all that's left is the bill to pay)
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To: Dallas59

"Gas Lines.....Odd and Even Days to get gas...Iran taking American hostages and Carter doing nothing....Fireside chats where Carter tells the American people to “sacrifice”....Interest rates skyrockets....unemployment skyrockets...inflation..."

Ah, those were the good old days. Can I say it? "Happy Days are Here Again."

Or will be soon.

18 posted on 04/13/2009 2:29:13 PM PDT by norge
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To: Dallas59; Mind Freed

Well, you were showing the inflation index, and I remember the one thing that could have stopped that — and when President Nixon *shocked the world* by taking the U.S. off the Gold Standard...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nixon_Shock

I remember being *absolutely shocked* at the time, and I knew we were *in trouble* from then on, as a result of that. And sure enough, we were..., as you can see from the resulting inflation...

You also had those “Islamic terrorists” back then, (those Arab countries) who tried to “muscle” the United States by cutting off oil to the country. They also contributed to the future problems...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1967_Oil_Embargo

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1973_oil_crisis

And then you had the huge run-up in costs from Johnson running the Vietnam War — and — social programs — “Guns and Butter” — as it was called back then. That contributed to the future problems, too...

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/09/21/AR2005092102504.html
[don’t know who this is, but it’s just for documenting the “guns and butter” policy which did exist back then...]

You can look at all those things for the high inflation rates that inevitably came “down the road”. The economy is a large entity for which “inputs” work its way through the system over years and it finally shows up, sooner or later...


19 posted on 04/13/2009 2:30:35 PM PDT by Star Traveler
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To: Twinkie

"Obama’s apparent “destroy America” tour and mission."

Could we call it the G-d Damn America Tour?"

20 posted on 04/13/2009 2:35:52 PM PDT by norge
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To: Mind Freed
Is Obama on a road to make Carter look like he was a good President?

Yep, you can take that to the bank. Carter is stupid where the Obamoron is dangerous. Under Carter, we had inflation that topped 21%. Reagan's tax cust did a whole lot to reverse the "stagflation" of Carter and grew the economy at a phenominal rate.

21 posted on 04/13/2009 2:38:29 PM PDT by DustyMoment (FloriDUH - proud inventors of pregnant/hanging chads and judicide!!)
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To: Twinkie; Dallas59; Mind Freed

Twinkie, you were saying — Yes. Being lectured by Carter about how “we the people” were stuck in a “malaise” and needed to sacrifice and quit being so spoiled, needed to wear sweaters and turn down the heat . . then Reagan came along and told us “we the people” were more than OKAY...

That reminds me of the time that I was driving around Portland, Oregon, back then, and people were still upset about the “double-nickel” speed limit (LOL...). I sure was.... :-)

And so..., one time, while driving down one of the freeways in town, there was a local sheriffs car that went zooming past me on the freeway, with me going 55. He didn’t have his lights on and I watched him for a bit, and then I said — “That’s it!”...

I “put the pedal to the metal” and went after that cop...

I had a pretty fast and powerful car, so it wasn’t a problem in catching up to him and I got right behind him and honked and flashed my lights and swerved slightly from side to side — and finally got his attention — and “pulled him over”...

He pulled over to the side and got out of his car, but he was sorta flustered that I had pulled him over in the first place and when he got out, he had not put his vehicle in park and it started driving away... LOL..

He jumped back in and jerked the thing into “Park” and the car jolted back and forth, forward and backward and stopped.

And then when he came over to me, as I was walking over to him, I let him know my complaint that if I was going to have to drive 55 MPH, then he better darned well drive 55 MPH too. I noted that I watched and he didn’t have his lights on and no siren and so, I was safe in *expecting* him to drive the speed limit. He made some kind of phoney-baloney excuse, but admitted not having any place to go do in an “emergency”.

He could see that I was “really hot” about it... :-)... and so, he finally tried to “make peace” and offered me to come over to the station house, see around the place and maybe go out on a cruise sometime, if I wanted... LOL...

Well, I just left it that way and finished my conversation with him and never followed up on those things he offered.

And since then, I’ve never pulled over a cop again... :-)


22 posted on 04/13/2009 2:43:05 PM PDT by Star Traveler
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To: Mind Freed

Nothing could make Carter look good. Obama will make him look better than he deserves. Carter did only two things right in 4 years:

— He appointed Paul Volcker chairman of the Federal Reserve, which helped make Carter a one-term president, but was good for the country. (All that pain was necessary to wring the inflation out of the economy...)

— He was lacking in any form of leadership, which prompted the country to turn to Reagan in 1980.

hh


23 posted on 04/13/2009 2:50:48 PM PDT by hoosier hick (Gotta go, millions of Obama supporters are counting on me to pay their mortgages)
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To: Mind Freed

I was in college when Carter was elected. I voted for Ford, even though he wasn’t so great. When Carter was done, not only had we been thru the hostage crisis in Iran, and had gas rationing, we had a 70% top marginal income tax rate, double digit inflation and double digit unemployment. Reagan very wisely understood that lower taxes meant an economic boom ultimately generating more income for the government, as well as job creation. The government itself is not supposed to “create” jobs! Rather, they are to have loose regulations - ours got too loose for a time - on corporations so the CORPORATIONS can create jobs. If we keep taxes where they are, and put back the banking regulations, our economy will come around WITHOUT any government interference. The so-called stimulus package is going to drive us into the ground.


24 posted on 04/13/2009 2:58:17 PM PDT by phoenix07
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To: Oldpuppymax

LOL! Gosh I feel old now, I had just turned 20 when Regan was elected. I do remember how bad it was during those years but not enough to fill you in on what he did.


25 posted on 04/13/2009 3:03:21 PM PDT by chris_bdba
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To: Mind Freed

It doesn’t matter. Obama can do no wrong. Every action he takes is magnificently well thought out, thus demonstrating his coolness under presure. Mistakes will not occur in this administration.

If they do, the blame goes to Bush and/or those who thought they were mistakes when they were actually brilliant ploys.

He can’t be wrong! He is the Messiah!


26 posted on 04/13/2009 3:03:54 PM PDT by neocon1984
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To: Dallas59

No more Christmas lights because of the “energy crisis”. Christmas lights never came back to the level they were before Carter.


27 posted on 04/13/2009 3:08:22 PM PDT by luckystarmom
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To: Mind Freed

I was a photographer in DC during both the Carter and the Reagan years, and spent a lot of time in the White House around both of these presidents. Carter was not only the worst President we’ve ever had, but an arrogant, mean spirited little man. Reagan was the most humble and gracious man you’d ever want to meet. It didn’t matter who you were, he treated you the same as he would treat a foreign dignitary. I spent 6 hours in line to pay respects to him when he was laying in state in the Capitol. I won’t even think twice about Carter when he goes.


28 posted on 04/13/2009 3:59:25 PM PDT by yazoo (was)
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To: EagleUSA
The only reason Reagan was the last president to care about the Constitution... is because we, the electorate, have been voting for the jack@sses that don't care.

If we, the electorate, would vote for the best candidate that fits one's beliefs, regardless of party(Republican, Democrat, Libertarian, Constitution, whatever!)... we'd be in a much better shape.

But no, we keep voting one way or the other, because our ‘betters’ tell us we should.

29 posted on 04/13/2009 4:42:56 PM PDT by gogogodzilla (Live free or die!)
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To: Twinkie
Reagan was my intro into politics when I was a child.

My first political memory was Reagan's first election. I remember Dad standing in front of the TV when they were announcing Carter's concession. I remember several nights when Reagan was to give a speech. Dad was never missed it. I caught him with a tear in his eye during one speech.

I was born in 1973. During the presidential race between Mondale and Reagan, I was voted to be Reagan in a 3 week mock campaign. We had to do speeches and debates for the class during that time about the issues of the day. I won in a landslide the day before election day.

I miss Reagan. I do have some CDs of some of his speeches. During the last few weeks of the campaign recently, I started listening to some of them again.

30 posted on 04/13/2009 5:10:20 PM PDT by Tenacious 1 (We may officially be too stupid to govern ourselves.)
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To: gogogodzilla
If we, the electorate, would vote for the best candidate that fits one's beliefs, regardless of party(Republican, Democrat, Libertarian, Constitution, whatever!)... we'd be in a much better shape.

Is it just me or are good candidates and nominees getting fewer and fewer? More and more only career politicians run for president. I think that by the time they get there, they have no rational grip on the reality of the real lives of those they wish to represent. They have been indoctrinated and have already become drunk with power, subject to corruption and working for their own best interests and/or a place in a history book somewhere.

Truly great American leaders are not interested in leading buffoons. Best I can tell, more than 50% of Americans have become just that.

31 posted on 04/13/2009 5:16:31 PM PDT by Tenacious 1 (We may officially be too stupid to govern ourselves.)
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To: Dallas59

Speed limit put in its proper context - made to save GAS, not LIVES. No matter how the Safety NAZIs try to color it.


32 posted on 04/15/2009 11:47:57 AM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Technological progress cannot be legislated.)
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