[Travis McGee]

As long as we're going to mention good commie milsurp guns and ammo, and since price is a consideration.....

Here's my tip of the month: there is still a great pistol and ammo deal out there waiting for you. If you have waited too long to arm up, or if you want one more, look at the excellent milsurp CZ-52 pistol and 7.62X25 Tokarev ammo.

You can get a CZ-52 for about $200 at any gun show or at many gun stores. The ammo can be had for as low as 11 cents a bullet in any quantity you want. Extra mags are from $12 to $20 each.

The milsurp ammo is full metal jacket, firing an 85gr bullet at 1,600fps. These will go through car doors, kevlar helmets, kevlar vests etc like an icepick through butter. OTOH, they will also go through one bad guy and maybe hit a good guy behind him.

However, you can buy hollowpoints ("Wolf Gold" with brass shells) for about $19/50, or half the price of comparable 9mm JHPs. My test "Wolf Gold" JHP ammo expanded to .60 caliber, the same as my test 9mm JHPs.

So for $400, you could buy a CZ-52, 1,500 rounds of assorted ammo, and a few extra mags. OR, you could buy about 2/3s of a "brand name" pistol, and no ammo.

It's just a thought. This is a great bargain. The ammo is cheap and plentiful at all of the internet catalog sites. Don't wait, the libtards will soon slam the door on foreign gun and ammo imports, and the prices will go way up.

Another benefit of this pistol is that it is very accurate, with very fine sights. WIth this flat-shooting ammo, you can hit at 100 yards with ease. Downsides are brittle firing pins (buy a spare, and don't dry fire) and a decocking function that you should not trust. Just lower the SA hammer like a 1911. The safety works like a 1911, so if you are used to 1911s, it will be very easy to use the CZ-52

[Osage Orange]

I will second McGee’s post....!!

[Spktyr]

He said *concealable*. That thing’s huge.

[epow]

I fully agree with your high opinion of the CZ-52 pistols and the 7.62x25mm Russian pistol and subgun cartridge, IMHO that is no doubt one of the all time best com-bloc surplus gun/ammo packages to hit the post-cold war US market. I don't usually favor .32 caliber pistols for SD, but the high velocity 7.65x25mm bottleneck round is an exception and I wish some ammo company would offer it with a JHP bullet that would expand enough on impact that it wouldn't exit an average size human body.

However, that may not be as much of a negative factor as I once thought it was, because I recently read some new annually compiled data showing that it's extremely rare for innocent bystanders to be hit by police-fired bullets that penetrate human bodies, or even those that so often miss the intended target entirely. I read that in a gun rag I picked up from a Walmart magazine rack while waiting for my wife to shop through the whole 40 acre store, so it may or may not be true.

[MHGinTN]

I’ve tried to find one in my area and it is impossible. Not one gun dealer in a 75 mile radius has one or can seem to get one shipped in. I really want to pick one up w/holster while they can be purchased, and would like to purchase extra mags and a minimum of 500 rounds, also. Guess it is just not gonna happen.