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>> But my point is that they didn`t even try to follow the things that couldn`t be changed.Kirk wasn`t even in the academy when Pike was doing his first voyages of discovery during the maiden voyages of the Constellation class star ship Enterprise.Its as though they moved ALL the characters back in time as far as their own births.I didn`t buy it.What about Pavel Chekhov?He would have been a preteen at this time. So we are to believe that the Romulan ship`s time travel actually caused ALL of the characters to be born years earlier than they should have?One problem,the ship reentered the timeline on the day of Kirk`s birth,not before his conception.So how is this supposed to have altered his bith date? <<

I don't think you know Star Trek canon as well as you think. Some freepers have been complaining about this movie violating "facts" that were never established in the Star Trek universe. One freeper claimed it was impossible for Kirk and Spock to meet at the academy because Spock was "400 years old" during TOS (wtf?). Another said that it was "established" on Trek that only Spock knew Kirk cheated on the Kobayshai Maru (even though in Star Trek II, McCoy seemed quite non-chanlant watching Kirk's revelation to Saavik that he cheated). The only thing they're proving is they don't know their Star Trek.

You claim this movie changes all the characters birth dates? I don't think so at all. First off, I don't think a single one of them had their birthdates ever listed on screen. From what we can see, McCoy and Scotty look to be in their mid 40s during TOS (that's how old the actors were), while Kirk and Spock look to be in their mid 30s. Kirk mentions on screen that his age is 34 in "The Deadly Years". That takes place about the second year into the five year mission, so sources have long placed the episode as taking place about 2267 (300 years from the date it aired on TV). 34 years prior to 2267 is... 2233, the year he's born in this movie.

Its not just the series but the novellas written during the period after the series and before any of the motion pictures.And even if they got the time lines reasonably right,I still think the story line was forced and choppy,not well written.I didn`t like it and as far as I`m concerned,this is the last motion picture in this story line I`ll pay to watch,how much will they continue to flog this horse?Whats next,Star Trek the Musical?Give me a break!