[Desdemona]

"why did the catholics go out and invent their own catholic version of the masons/shriners? AKA the knights of columbus?"

Um. Because the Catholics wanted a Christian version of Freemasons?

KC had to do with Catholics not being able to get life insurance in the early 20th century. And they're really not like the shriners. Shriners can actually AFFORD those little cars. KC members are, for the most part, like my relatives, men who work on their feet.

[Lucius Cornelius Sulla]

Shriners can actually AFFORD those little cars.

Those little cars almost make me want to be able to BE a Mason. Also those fezes.