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A Simple Argument Against Canadian-Style Healthcare
da Vinci Surgery / Hospital Finder ^ | May 29th, 2009 | da Vinci

Posted on 05/29/2009 9:46:23 AM PDT by ikka

For anyone that doesn't understand how rationed healthcare works, here is a 1-minute demonstration.

The da Vinci system is a robotic system used for MIS, minimally invasive surgery. It is cutting-edge medicine for such surgeries as prostate surgery.

Use the Surgery Finder (linked at source URL) as follows:

1. Go to the URL. Click on the radio button that says "Hospitals".

2. From the "International" drop down list, select "Canada" and click the blue arrow.

You will notice that there are 9 hospitals that have the da Vinci system; with Canada's population of 33 million, that means that the ratio is 1 system per 3.67 million population.

Back up, and instead of choosing "Canada" choose your state - in my case, I live in PA. Get the results again.

In the state of PA, there are 30; but since one is a VA Hospital, let's say there are 29 hospitals with the da Vinci system.

That means that there is 1 system for every 420,000 people in the state.


TOPICS: Health/Medicine
KEYWORDS: health; universalhealthcare
Which medical system would YOU rather be treated with?
1 posted on 05/29/2009 9:46:23 AM PDT by ikka
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To: ikka
I think the best argument against canadacare would be the fact that a Canadian MP, Belinda Caroline Stronach, went to California for cancer treatment.
2 posted on 05/29/2009 9:50:53 AM PDT by Perdogg (Sarah Palin-Liz Cheney 2012)
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To: ikka

“A Simple Argument Against Canadian-Style Healthcare”

Exhibit A:
My Canadian family members...
that always seem to want to get an American-Style checkup
whenever they come to visit flyover country.

I love them enough to ask them: “You have free healthcare back
home in Canada. Why on earth do you need a checkup in the USA
that you must pay for?”

Exhibit B:
I was suprised that during the SARS outbreak, some of our doctors
in the USA at least implied that infectious-disease control in Canada
sucked compared to similar controls in the USA.
In my experience, as a non-medical type, I could hardly ever get
a physician to confirm/deny rumors of incompetence amongst one of
their select-fraternity members.


3 posted on 05/29/2009 9:52:22 AM PDT by VOA
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To: ikka

Excellent, ikka. Bookmarked for later...


4 posted on 05/29/2009 9:52:49 AM PDT by nutmeg (DemocRATs: The party of tax cheats and other assorted crooks)
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To: ikka

Los Angeles County has more Da Vincis than all of Canada by my count.


5 posted on 05/29/2009 9:57:10 AM PDT by californianmom
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To: Perdogg

This book gives even more reasons:

http://liberty.pacificresearch.org/publications/the-top-ten-myths-of-american-health-care-a-citizens-guide

Read PDF study linked near bottom of page. This shoots down the Myths and provides improvements for our system.


6 posted on 05/29/2009 10:22:24 AM PDT by Tucson Jim
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To: californianmom

For Prostatectomies, there are 2 surgeons listed in Canada. There are 6 in UTAH.


7 posted on 05/29/2009 10:23:31 AM PDT by Andyman (The truth shall make you FReep.)
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To: Andyman

A friend of mine was skiing in Canada when he had sharp abdominal pains. He was given the choice of being treated in Canada or Medivaced to VT. He chose the latter. The surgeon, who was VP of the AMA at the time opened him up and saw a perfectly healthy pink Appendix. However there was a strong smell of Stool. He repaired the perforated Bowel. Had he stayed in Canada, they would have closed him up when they saw the Appendix and sent him back for rediagnosis. Where he would have died from Peritonitis.


8 posted on 05/29/2009 10:30:15 AM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: Andyman

There are more MRI machines in Philadelphia than in Canada.


9 posted on 05/29/2009 10:31:31 AM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: ikka

Great point!


10 posted on 05/29/2009 10:35:07 AM PDT by markedmannerf
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To: ikka
All Americans need to know is that every British and Canadian politician who runs for office claims, "I will reduce hospital and medical wait times".

Having to wait 18 months for surgery (If it's allowed by the National Service) will be quite a shock for Americans.

11 posted on 05/29/2009 10:36:24 AM PDT by Deb (Beat him, strip him and bring him to my tent!)
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To: ikka
Anyone who thinks Canada is a good model for healthcare needs to visit a hospital in a border state.

You don't even need to go in....just cruise the parking lot, counting Canadian license plates. 'Nuff said.

12 posted on 05/29/2009 10:42:52 AM PDT by wbill
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