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Digital TV Conversion
conservativesister

Posted on 06/17/2009 12:46:03 PM PDT by conservativesister

HELP, this digital TV conversion really is horrible! I used to get 9 channels with my antenna. I bought a new digital TV and now I get 2 channels, and they are spotty. I live outside the cable covered area and they will not bring it on up the road, so how can I get local TV stations like I did before?


TOPICS: Miscellaneous; TV/Movies
KEYWORDS: digitaltv; dtv; governmentcompetence; tvconversion
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1 posted on 06/17/2009 12:46:03 PM PDT by conservativesister
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To: conservativesister

DirecTV??


2 posted on 06/17/2009 12:46:42 PM PDT by GeronL (http://libertyfic.proboards.com <----go there now,----> tyrannysentinel.blogspot.com)
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To: conservativesister

Go back to your antenna?


3 posted on 06/17/2009 12:46:54 PM PDT by lormand (If you disagree with zero b. Hussein, you are worse than the KKK)
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To: conservativesister

Get a dish of some kind.


4 posted on 06/17/2009 12:47:21 PM PDT by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: conservativesister
Have you re-scanned your digital TV receiver since 12JUN09?

On 11JUN09, I got lots of DTV signal. On the afternoon of 12JUN09, I had basically nothing. So I re-scanned the TV ... and it found more signals than I had before.

Re-scan your TV.

5 posted on 06/17/2009 12:47:55 PM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: conservativesister

http://www.antennaweb.org/aw/welcome.aspx

We’re on antennas and I had to rescan after the transition.


6 posted on 06/17/2009 12:48:11 PM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: GeronL

Yep. Satellite TV is your only option.


7 posted on 06/17/2009 12:48:12 PM PDT by Integrityrocks
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To: conservativesister

You may need a better antenna. Try this site -> http://www.antennaweb.org/aw/welcome.aspx


8 posted on 06/17/2009 12:49:13 PM PDT by marvlus
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To: conservativesister; fso301

Please come over here, fso301.

Btw, It’s raining to beat the band here in MI so I didn’t test my signals.


9 posted on 06/17/2009 12:49:21 PM PDT by netmilsmom (Psalm 109:8 - Let his days be few; and let another take his office)
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To: conservativesister

We are having the same problem.


10 posted on 06/17/2009 12:50:00 PM PDT by netmilsmom (Psalm 109:8 - Let his days be few; and let another take his office)
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To: GeronL

Amen, bro. The thing that sold me on Directv is the ability to set you dvr from an internet-ready cellphone or computer anywhere. Dish TV doesn’t have that luxury. I missed recording something once and found out about this capability. Never again will something be missed.


11 posted on 06/17/2009 12:50:43 PM PDT by NCC-1701 (ON 1-19-09 GAS WAS, ON AVERAGE IN MEMPHIS, $1.43 A GALLON.)
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To: marvlus

Yep a better digital type antenna would probably do it.

Getting a different antenna helps lots of folks.


12 posted on 06/17/2009 12:51:03 PM PDT by romanesq
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To: conservativesister

Same here. We were receiving 14 digital channels before the shutoff date. All we watched at the time was HDTV, after that date my dad hit the “find channel” button on the remote to search for any new HDTV channels and came back with 1! Just 1!. Can’t get anymore. We’re 50 miles LOS from Seattle five hundred feet up a mountain.


13 posted on 06/17/2009 12:52:08 PM PDT by SkyDancer ('Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do not..' ~ Thomas Jefferson)
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To: conservativesister
how can I get local TV stations like I did before?

You can't. They're stopping those transmissions now...

14 posted on 06/17/2009 12:52:24 PM PDT by theDentist (qwerty ergo typo : i type, therefore i misspelll)
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To: ArrogantBustard

Some channels moved. At 11:59 pm last Fri night, WHDH-TV 7
in Boston had an analog signal on Ch 7 and a digital one
on Ch 42; then they switched them both off and powered up
the digital signal on the frequency of Ch 7.

They soon found that many people who could pick them up on
Ch 42 couldn’t pick them up on Ch 7! They’re saying the FCC
didn’t allocate them enough power. So for now they switched
CH 42 back on (with FCC permission) and are trying to get a power boost for the Ch 7 digital frequency.

The FCC and other sources are saying you should re-scan
Some are even saying unplug antenna from your TV. Unplug
converter box, etc. Then plug everything back in and
rescan.

Also: your antenna may not be adequate enough.

Some complaints have come in about Channel 6-es in
Schenectedy and Phila. Also some complaints about
stations putting their signals on “VHF-Hi” (i.e.,
channels 7-13; VHF-Lo is 2-6)


15 posted on 06/17/2009 12:52:51 PM PDT by raccoonradio (This is Massachusetts. We're stupid.)
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To: NCC-1701

And I know how much you’d miss “I’m a Celebrity, Get me out of here”

/sarc


16 posted on 06/17/2009 12:52:56 PM PDT by GeronL (http://libertyfic.proboards.com <----go there now,----> tyrannysentinel.blogspot.com)
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To: conservativesister

You could call Obama and ask him to fix it for you. I will help if you send a campaign contribution. :-)

You could get a much bigger antenna, and make sure it includes VHF, apparently during the “transition period” some stores sold UHF-only “DTV” antennas, which worked since the DTV broadcasts were in the UHF spectrum.

Now many are in VHF, which doesn’t propogate as far, and also I’ve read somewhere that the power levels aren’t allowed to be as high. Kind of like “bait-and-switch”.

You could get a satellite feed, directTV or Dish Network. they are available anywhere, and often have local channels.


17 posted on 06/17/2009 12:53:24 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: conservativesister
You are apparently on a fringe reception area. Digital signals are less forgiving of marginal receiption.

You might be able to boost your signal with a larger or preferably higher antenna and a pre-amplifier. But, the best choice may be a satellite TV dish.

It's not free, but it's competitive with terrestrial cable (if you could actually get that). Both DirecTV and Dish Network will give you the equipment for free, if you commit to keeping the service for 1-2 years. You should be able to get it installed for a minimal cost, as well.

18 posted on 06/17/2009 12:53:43 PM PDT by justlurking (The only remedy for a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun.)
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To: conservativesister

What kind of antenna do you have? Make sure it is a strong UHF antenna. Most of the digital stations are on the UHF frequencies.

If your antenna is old, consider replacing the antenna and the cable from the roof. Cables lose the ability to transfer higher frequencies first as they age. Check all the cable connections.

Make sure the antenna is oriented toward the towers. I have a small roof antenna and the one station that transmits off axis has a much lower signal strength than the channels that are in line with the antenna.


19 posted on 06/17/2009 12:53:56 PM PDT by MediaMole
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To: conservativesister

get cable. You can get only on air local stations for about $20.


20 posted on 06/17/2009 12:54:10 PM PDT by Perdogg (Sarah Palin-Jim DeMint 2012 - Liz Cheney for Sec of State - Duncan Hunter SecDef)
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To: conservativesister
If you have an outside antenna and the transmitting antennas are co-located (antenna farm), just buy yourself an antenna amplifier (Radio Shack). If you can, learn the Tx antenna compass headings from your place and accurately position the antenna according to those heading(s). You may also need an antenna rotor if the transmitting antennas have different headings.

If you're using an indoor antenna, you may want to buy one with an internal amplifier. That will probably improve your signal level.

21 posted on 06/17/2009 12:54:52 PM PDT by davisfh ( Islam is a very serious mental illness)
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To: conservativesister

We are having the same problem. Its a government program, what did you expect? We have sworn off TV completely. Screw em.


22 posted on 06/17/2009 12:55:51 PM PDT by lafroste (gravity is not a force. See my profile to read my novel absolutely free (I know, beyond shameless))
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To: conservativesister

I used to 10 channels, now I get 2. What the hell, it is a waste of life anyway.


23 posted on 06/17/2009 12:56:11 PM PDT by Neoliberalnot ((Freedom's Precious Metals: Gold, Silver and Lead))
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To: raccoonradio
Some channels moved.

Right ... that's why re-scanning is step one.

24 posted on 06/17/2009 12:56:20 PM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: conservativesister

dirty little secret of DTV....

Lots of antennas that were perfectly fine for analog TV are having a hard time with digital. That is because if a digital signal is coming in weakly it will pixilate or not display at all. And since likely your signals are coming from various directions, it is impossible to get all of your channels with your antenna oriented in one direction on one scan. You would need to reorient the antenna and rescan (and when you do this, likely you will lose other channels). Supposedly they have “smart” antennas that can pull from competing directions, but they are expensive. A little detail they forgot to tell us during the conversion.


25 posted on 06/17/2009 12:57:41 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: conservativesister

I know nothing about TVs. I don’t even watch it, BUT here’s a site that tells how to scan your TV when you switch over:

http://www.fcc.gov/cgb/consumerfacts/rescan.pdf


26 posted on 06/17/2009 12:58:14 PM PDT by kitkat
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To: ArrogantBustard

And most likely this is why the FCC, etc. is telling people to re-scan. The case I gave above about Ch 7 Boston re-broadcasting on Ch 42...again...means that even if people
re-scanned on Sat., they’ll have to re-scan again...as they
didn’t power CH 42 back up until the other day.

All of the TV programs about digital TV conversion (run by many stations on “nightlight” stations that are still on analog—for example, on channels 2, 4, and 5—analog—in Boston) all say the same thing: “You may have to/will have to
rescan”


27 posted on 06/17/2009 12:58:29 PM PDT by raccoonradio (This is Massachusetts. We're stupid.)
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To: conservativesister

You need to rescan your TV.

or

Go back to analog, get a better antenna, get the convertor box. I did this with much success after the rescan on 06/12.


28 posted on 06/17/2009 12:58:32 PM PDT by EBH (I am not your comrade, nor sheeple, nor serf or slave; but a Freeman.)
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To: conservativesister

I don’t think you can. You have to have your regular TV antenna hooked up to the digital converter.

http://www.antennaweb.org/aw/Welcome.aspx

Try the site to select a new antenna type - it will tell you the heading to face the antenna and the directional type depending on what stations you want to recieve. I bought a new single directional antenna for my cabin, averaged the headings of all the stations (luckily mine were within a few degrees of one another) and installed the equipment - OUTSIDE. Also - very important, select antenna on your TV set up afterward and scan for stations again or anytime you move your antenna.


29 posted on 06/17/2009 12:59:38 PM PDT by bintenn
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To: Buckeye McFrog

have heard that too; some people say if you have a portable antenna someone moving around the room will affect recep.
so much that the signal pixilates.

>>You would need to reorient the antenna and rescan (and when you do this, likely you will lose other channels).

One site I’ve seen, rabbitears.info IIRC, has you do a search for your zip code and it tells you what channels you should get and gives you a little map showing in what directions
the antennae are. But yes the smart antennas would be
expensive.


30 posted on 06/17/2009 1:00:49 PM PDT by raccoonradio (This is Massachusetts. We're stupid.)
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To: lafroste
.sworn off TV!!

I so glad they've gone..., that's how I feel, bunch of worthless whores one and all, usually just make me mad or at least go tsk, tsk.

More time for other interests, life is much better now.

31 posted on 06/17/2009 1:01:59 PM PDT by norraad ("What light!">Blues Brothers)
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To: raccoonradio

Actually, you can scan several times and see which channels you receive from what position of the antenna.

Then go into the channel programming mode and manually select all the channels you know you receive.

You’ll have to get up off the sofa and move the antenna with the channel changes...but it works!


32 posted on 06/17/2009 1:04:30 PM PDT by EBH (I am not your comrade, nor sheeple, nor serf or slave; but a Freeman.)
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To: conservativesister
Here are the three most important things when it comes to OTA digital TV reception:
  1. Antenna location
  2. Antenna location
  3. Antenna location
Any questions?

I built one of these for about $5 and put it in a second-story window of my house and get 12 stations.

33 posted on 06/17/2009 1:05:17 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Islam is a religion of peace, and Muslims reserve the right to kill anyone who says otherwise.)
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They soon found that many people who could pick them up on Ch 42 couldn’t pick them up on Ch 7! They’re saying the FCC didn’t allocate them enough power.

We have a similar problem here in the Raleigh-Durham area.

Channel 11, ABC, switched back to ch.11 from the uhf ch. they used for DTV.
The reduced power has made a mess to getting reception. They are talking to the FCC.

34 posted on 06/17/2009 1:06:46 PM PDT by Vinnie (You're Nobody 'Til Somebody Jihads You)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Antenna location is an important factor, but many of us in fringe areas who could pick up analog signals with a good antenna in a good location are finding out we can’t get reliable digital signals.


35 posted on 06/17/2009 1:10:34 PM PDT by jaydubya2
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To: conservativesister

Amplifiers are very good. I use one made by Motorola. Without it I can get 4 or 5 stations, but with it I can pick up cities to the east and west and that gives me about 20 stations. Digital signals are also more direction-specific, so you may want to consider a motor to turn the antenna for best reception.


36 posted on 06/17/2009 1:11:50 PM PDT by Kirkwood
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
I built one of these for about $5

Me too. It worked very well a month ago when I experimented with it.
Now that the switch is complete not so well.
I'm guessing that prior to the cutoff they used full power and now reduced power.
I've gone from a 75% (approx) signal to about 35-40%.

37 posted on 06/17/2009 1:12:30 PM PDT by Vinnie (You're Nobody 'Til Somebody Jihads You)
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To: jaydubya2
Antenna location is an important factor, but many of us in fringe areas who could pick up analog signals with a good antenna in a good location are finding out we can’t get reliable digital signals.

I was in the same boat until I added one of these.

If you are getting any kind of signal at all, this will make it come in loud and clear.

38 posted on 06/17/2009 1:13:10 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Islam is a religion of peace, and Muslims reserve the right to kill anyone who says otherwise.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

“Any questions?”

Where do you get wire coat hangers these days?


39 posted on 06/17/2009 1:14:52 PM PDT by KrisKrinkle (Blessed be those who know the depth and breadth of their ignorance. Cursed be those who don't.)
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To: Vinnie
I'm guessing that prior to the cutoff they used full power and now reduced power. I've gone from a 75% (approx) signal to about 35-40%.

Get one of these.

As long as you are getting some signal, this will get it the rest of the way.

Worked for me. Without it I got two stations. With it, twelve.

40 posted on 06/17/2009 1:15:17 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Islam is a religion of peace, and Muslims reserve the right to kill anyone who says otherwise.)
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To: KrisKrinkle
Where do you get wire coat hangers these days?

My wife's closet.

41 posted on 06/17/2009 1:15:48 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Islam is a religion of peace, and Muslims reserve the right to kill anyone who says otherwise.)
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To: norraad

Indeed. 3 years without, and I don’t see how anyone could possibly have time for it. Tried signing up for cable several times, but totally balked at the price ($60/mo for decent lineup? nuts!).

I follow the DTV stuff out of techincal curiosity; _what_ is delivered is largely crud (gimme my NetFlix), but _how_ it’s delivered is interesting.


42 posted on 06/17/2009 1:17:37 PM PDT by ctdonath2 (John Galt was exiled.)
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To: KrisKrinkle

Dry cleaners.


43 posted on 06/17/2009 1:21:21 PM PDT by netmilsmom (Psalm 109:8 - Let his days be few; and let another take his office)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Thanks, I have a Wineguard mast mounted preamp and booster, and a good UHF/VHF antenna, mounted at about 25’, but my problem is transmitter power. My vacation home is 60 miles from the nearest transmitter, when they “upgraded” to digital, they reduced there effective reception area by about ten miles. I now am outside of their reception area. On a good day, I can get a signal, but mostly no signal or severely pixleized reception. I have good equipment now, but I am considering upgrading to the best I can get, or just watch less TV, which might be the better option.
44 posted on 06/17/2009 1:24:15 PM PDT by jaydubya2
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To: jaydubya2

Sounds like you’ve done everything you can.


45 posted on 06/17/2009 1:26:44 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Islam is a religion of peace, and Muslims reserve the right to kill anyone who says otherwise.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Yea. I had my pie and the man took it away.


46 posted on 06/17/2009 1:32:26 PM PDT by jaydubya2
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To: conservativesister

I was concerned for my Father In Law when he splurged and bought an LCD HDTV. He too lives in a fringe area for coverage (reception was hit-or-miss with the old analog). To our surprise, he gets twice the channels he did before. With digital, you either get it or you don’t. There really isn’t much gray area between. That being said:

Your options, as best I can tell:

1. an outdoor antenna. Correctly put together and mounted, you should be able to pick up what you want. Don’t go cheap and get a itty-bitty $20 antenna and lean it against a tree... Part of correct installation is using good coax cable and connectors.

2. Call DirecTV or DishNetwork and have them come out and hook you up with satellite.

3. post and complain - though it can help with venting, it doesn’t generally help TV reception.

And the positive about getting Dish or DTV - you are not stuck with local variants on the mainstream media. You could get FoxNews.


47 posted on 06/17/2009 1:36:11 PM PDT by TheBattman (Pray for our country...)
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To: conservativesister

Rescan and get an outdoor antenna. Works wonders.


48 posted on 06/17/2009 1:36:40 PM PDT by vpintheak (Like a muddied spring or a polluted well is a righteous man who gives way to the wicked. Prov. 25:26)
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To: conservativesister

All these comments about Satellite TV and boosters and so forth are nice, but consider what you might want to do to get at least local TV when the power goes out.

We were without power for almost a week last fall and I hooked up a TV with antenna to an inverter and a car battery to get the local stations, for news and updates and so forth. Hope I can do the same with a TV and the converter.

And does anybody know what to do with those small battery operated TVs with built in antennas that you can’t hook up to a converter?


49 posted on 06/17/2009 1:37:39 PM PDT by KrisKrinkle (Blessed be those who know the depth and breadth of their ignorance. Cursed be those who don't.)
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To: romanesq

the so-called “digital” antennas are a scam in general. There is nothing digital about them. Just get a good antenna. Lots of places to get them. I even think Radio Shack still sells them (though you might have to order it). Get a big one with high gain.


50 posted on 06/17/2009 1:38:01 PM PDT by TheBattman (Pray for our country...)
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