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To: markomalley

Barry is prima facie unqualified because he claims a foreign father and foreign citizenship at birth. Your scenario is based on a faulty premise that encompasses statist, unConstitutional and therefore anti-American assumptions.

Statutory law does not take precedent over the Constitution.

And no statutory law defines “natural born citizen” anyway. (The section of the 1790 law you cite was repealed; presumably because someone (John Jay) pointed out they could not redefine terms in the Constitution.) The INA statutes have no bearing on the issue at hand.

Your attempt to elevate statutes to something that can redefine language and vitiate the Constitution is of a piece with your conflation earlier of “law of nations” and “international law”... the former being of a piece with and an outgrowth of natural rights, the concept on which this country was founded... the latter being a “League of Nations”-type concept where our rights can be redefined and and eliminated by by politicians or foreign judges.

You are prattling on about whether or not Obama was naturalized at birth... but that isn’t the issue. The issue is whether he is indigenous to America, a natural-born citizen.

Natural-born citizenship is part of our natural rights and doesn’t have anything to do with naturalization statutes. You are either intentionally obfuscating, or you are just so predisposed to loathe the natural rights of human beings that you have rendered yourself incoherent and irrelevant.


82 posted on 07/31/2009 11:01:30 AM PDT by Plummz (pro-constitution, anti-corruption)
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To: Plummz
Barry is prima facie unqualified because he claims a foreign father and foreign citizenship at birth. Your scenario is based on a faulty premise that encompasses statist, unConstitutional and therefore anti-American assumptions.

While I agree with that, convincing a court is a different issue altogether.

(The section of the 1790 law you cite was repealed; presumably because someone (John Jay) pointed out they could not redefine terms in the Constitution.)

The 1790 law was replaced with a 1795 law which was replaced with a 1798 law which was replaced with an 1802 law. Sorry.

You are prattling on about whether or not Obama was naturalized at birth...

No, I have never stated that. I was prattling on regarding whether Obama qualified as a citizen at birth. One can be either a citizen at birth or one becomes a naturalized citizen. There are no other options for citizenship. If you were to actually manage to read Vattel, you would find that he is in complete concurrence with this.

I don't mind you disagreeing with my statements, but it sure would be nice if you could disagree with something that I actually wrote vice something that you imagine that I wrote.

Don't know if it's utter disrespect or lack of reading comprehension that causes you to do so, thus I won't draw any conclusions.

85 posted on 07/31/2009 2:02:46 PM PDT by markomalley (Extra Ecclesiam nulla salus)
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