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To: achilles2000

While I am completely for homeschooling and greatly admire those who have taken on this responsibility, your final sentence is wrong. Our school system, like our health care system, needs some surgery - school system is in worse shape - but it does not need to be discarded.

There are plenty of great teachers out there - Christians and conservatives. We need more of them in the schools. That’s the way to solve the problem, not your answer.


17 posted on 08/10/2009 5:41:57 PM PDT by Paved Paradise
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To: Paved Paradise

Wrong answer at every level. When you put good people into a bad system, the system wins. The system does need to be discarded, and should have been discarded a century ago.


19 posted on 08/10/2009 5:48:38 PM PDT by achilles2000 (Shouting "fire" in a burning building is doing everyone a favor...whether they like it or not)
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To: Paved Paradise

Ping for later


24 posted on 08/10/2009 6:09:58 PM PDT by wintertime (People are not stupid! Good ideas win!)
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To: Paved Paradise
There are plenty of great teachers out there - Christians and conservatives. We need more of them in the schools. That’s the way to solve the problem, not your answer.

It's a basic tenet of economics. Until the consumer (the parents) spend their own money for a service in a free market of education services, the results will NECESSARILY be inferior.

26 posted on 08/10/2009 6:30:11 PM PDT by ALPAPilot
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To: Paved Paradise
Our school system, like our health care system, needs some surgery - school system is in worse shape - but it does not need to be discarded.

Some things can't be reformed. Government schools were are socialist scheme from their beginning in the mid-19th century, and socialism can't be reformed. From the moment a child takes his first step into kindergarten he learns that the government can force his neighbor to pay for something he and his parents want for free. Do this for 13 or more years and you will have a society of well trained socialists who see no problem with using a voting mob to steal from his neighbor.

The very purpose of government schooling was to turn the citizens into compliant workers for the fascist state.

The typical government school, from their beginnings in the mid-19th century, have used the Prussian model of schooling. In essence, government schools look like prisons and treat the children like prisoners. If the government can crush First Amendment Rights day after day for 13 or more years, the child learns to be a prisoner of the state.

There are plenty of great teachers out there - Christians and conservatives. We need more of them in the schools.

"Great government teacher" or "great Christian teacher" is an oxymoron. It is not "great" to teach children a godless worldview. It is not great to teach them that they can live their lives without god or in a sphere separate and independent of their family's religious religious traditions. It is not great to teach children to compartmentalize their faith. And...Finally it is not great to teach children that they must hide their faith as if it were a bathroom activity.

In particular the students **know** that it is not Christian to teach children how to think godlessly. Any Christian who truly taught as Christ would want them to teach, would have already lost their job long ago, Therefore, children are taught day after day for 13 or more years that Christians will teach godlessness and will sell their principles for a paycheck and pension. This is not "great".

64 posted on 08/11/2009 2:35:43 AM PDT by wintertime (People are not stupid! Good ideas win!)
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