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A Harbinger: Please Assist With An Interpretation
Self | August 11, 2009 | madison10

Posted on 08/11/2009 3:57:41 PM PDT by madison10

Nap time today-about 3:21 pm:

Scene was an old-style Western that as a dreamer I came upon to witness. A man with a cloak was beating up on an elderly woman. At first he just punching her body, then he starting kicking her body and she crumpled to the ground. She didn't make much sound. She was gone, or near gone, but on he went. Now kicking her in the head. Then, to my shock he brought out a whip he had hidden in his cloak and started using that.

There was another person witnessing the activities--This gentleman was standing there looking toward the woman on the ground and the creep in the cloak, not really wanting to get involved, but he couldn't take it anymore. His face was dripping perspiration. I could almost touch the drops of sweat. He raised a large western style weapon, like a Colt, hand-gun type. (you know, he could hold it in one hand,but it had a longish barrel. Black, not silver).

He was afraid to interfere, but decided he that he'd had enough. Just as he was raising the gun to destroy the tormentor...someone stabbed him in the back, someone he trusted, but also didn't know was there. Down he went.

And I awoke.


That's it. Any ideas?

TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Religion
KEYWORDS: chat; dream; frightening; healthcare; interpretation; opinion
1 posted on 08/11/2009 3:57:41 PM PDT by madison10
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To: madison10

Lay off the hot peppers before your nap.

2 posted on 08/11/2009 4:00:14 PM PDT by ExpatGator (Extending logic since 1961.)
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To: madison10

did you happen to read My Experience at a Town Hall Meeting (Austin, Tx.) I posted it on the 6th.. it was also reposted from The American Thinker...:

3 posted on 08/11/2009 4:01:27 PM PDT by bareford101 (Give me liberty, or give me death!)
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To: ExpatGator

It was quiche and it had no peppers. LOL (I had, however, been listening to the radio)

C’mon, be sort of serious.

4 posted on 08/11/2009 4:02:06 PM PDT by madison10
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To: madison10

Simple. You haven’t gotten over your ex.

5 posted on 08/11/2009 4:02:35 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: bareford101

Not until just now. How awful! Are you okay?

6 posted on 08/11/2009 4:04:22 PM PDT by madison10
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To: 1rudeboy

Ex? 28th anniversary is this Saturday.

7 posted on 08/11/2009 4:05:35 PM PDT by madison10
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To: madison10

Precisely! Thanks.

8 posted on 08/11/2009 4:06:38 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: madison10

Your body is either protesting or craving a KFC Bowl with Mountain Dew.

—Petronski sends...

9 posted on 08/11/2009 4:08:19 PM PDT by cyborg (The Cyborg Show brought you by the Apple iPhone)
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To: madison10

10 posted on 08/11/2009 4:09:36 PM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet)
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To: madison10

It was Snidely Whiplash, of course, and you were in the middle of a Dudley DoRight episode.

The Inspector’s daughter Nell was the one who stabbed you in the back.

11 posted on 08/11/2009 4:10:37 PM PDT by alloysteel (Never let an inanimate object know that you are in a hurry.)
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To: madison10

It’s not that complex. We’ve been told the West was wild and lawless [it wasn’t, really] so the western setting indicates a perceived breakdown of law and order. The attacker represents Obama, I’m guessing, (or some amalgam of Obama cohorts—such as Rahm and Ezekiel Emanuel) and the way his healthcare plan will hit old folks hardest. The man with the gun (a salt-of-the-earth conservative) doesn’t want to turn vigilante but finally feels forced into it. But of course we all fear the current administration will stab gun owners and gun rights in the back. 3.5 years of Freudian therapy says this is at least a close interpretation, anyway. Fwiw.

12 posted on 08/11/2009 4:13:11 PM PDT by Fantasywriter
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To: madison10

The fear of getting involved in a obvious injustice creates a conflict for the witness. The fear is realized when he is in turn assaulted by unseen forces, when he decides to finally act. This could be a metaphor for either a personal or a political crisis for the dreamer. I am sorry if that interpretation is pretty lame, but it’s the best that I could come up with.

13 posted on 08/11/2009 4:17:39 PM PDT by dog breath
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To: madison10

“C’mon, be sort of serious.”

A phrase never spoken to me by anyone who knows me.

14 posted on 08/11/2009 4:18:55 PM PDT by ExpatGator (Extending logic since 1961.)
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To: Fantasywriter

Thank you.

Only difference I came up with was the backstabber: It wasn’t someone DIStrusted it was someone trusted and they didn’t want the woman, or her type, being protected.

15 posted on 08/11/2009 4:19:36 PM PDT by madison10
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To: ExpatGator

LOL Okay, sorry, don’t be serious at all.

16 posted on 08/11/2009 4:20:28 PM PDT by madison10
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To: madison10

LOL Obama lied grandma died.

Unless we stop the insanity.

17 posted on 08/11/2009 4:20:59 PM PDT by Typical_Whitey (Obamacare = Grandma is told that she should die earlier so she is not a punishment to her children.)
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To: madison10

Congratulations! My wife and I just had our 17th. It’s been pure, unmitigated hell, but we are both hoping to outlive the other! The odds are on her side.

18 posted on 08/11/2009 4:21:14 PM PDT by ExpatGator (Extending logic since 1961.)
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To: madison10

Maybe the backstabber represents the RINOs, or perhaps simply the spinelessness of the GOP in protecting (or even trying to protect) those who are now at the mercy of the Dems?

19 posted on 08/11/2009 4:22:11 PM PDT by Fantasywriter
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To: Fantasywriter

That works.

20 posted on 08/11/2009 4:29:48 PM PDT by madison10
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To: madison10

A variation of the crucifixion of christ. Mob mentality. evil. faith. etc.

It is a representation of your fear/hope that you will/wont be capable of doing the right thing when the time comes if it means laying down your life in the process. It’s a manifestation of the inner struggle between two basic desires. 1. the desire to live. 2. the desire to confront evil.

ie ultimate sacrifice for a cause greater than yourself.

Your subconscious is attempting to sort out these 2 conflicting desires and possibly trying to invent a third alternative that will satisfy both equally simultaneously.

21 posted on 08/11/2009 4:30:34 PM PDT by mamelukesabre (Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum (If you want peace prepare for war))
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To: mamelukesabre


22 posted on 08/11/2009 4:31:45 PM PDT by madison10
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To: madison10

Perhaps a person so focused in the injustice he sees in front of him, and fails to see the injustice coming up from behind until it was too late.

23 posted on 08/11/2009 4:35:34 PM PDT by Danae (- Conservative does not equal Republican. Conservative does not compromise.)
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To: Danae

Gotta think about that one...injustice from behind.

Let’s say it IS about healthcare and the person can see the injustice to the elderly that would come right in front of his eyes. That he is willing to fight against.

Injustice that is hidden, or behind: something not seen at the time, but trusted once. The trusted will do the backstabbing.

Thanks much.

24 posted on 08/11/2009 4:42:27 PM PDT by madison10
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To: madison10

Obama has a lot of people rattled, imho. I think he screwed up Big Time with his healthcare bill, though. He has turned not only Republican, Independent and moderate seasoned citizens against it—he’s got a sizable number of Democrat seniors fighting mad about it also. I think we will look back at August 09 as the month the wheels came off the Obama administration—or at the very least started to come off.

25 posted on 08/11/2009 4:51:20 PM PDT by Fantasywriter
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To: madison10
I have the interpretation...

The elderly woman you saw in your dream was once beautiful, stately, confident, bold, and virtuous. In her youth, her Bride rescued her from bondage and persecution in Europe and cut the shackles from her feet. He promised He would give her the desires of her heart if she would trust Him, delight in Him, be committed to Him, and find her rest in Him. She doted on her Husband for many years, through good times and bad, and bore Him 2 children who loved her, clung to her, and promised to always protect her. They made her and her Husband proud (even though they fought a lot). She became renowned and feared in all the world and the seven seas. She was the salt of the earth; a city on a hill to all who passed by.

But something happened as she got older. She became dissatisfied with her Husband for her husband was away on business. He promised her He would never leave her or forsake her. He promised to come back as soon as He could to surprise her. But she could not wait for Him. She began to despise her riches, her comfort, her abundance, her commitment, her faith, and mostly Her husband.

She forbid her kids to learn of Him in their schooling. She removed all traces of her Husband's loving words from their schools, universities, and places of employment. Her treachery won over her oldest son who went along with her intrigues seeing that he could profit from her rebellion. He even became worse than his mother. Her youngest son stayed faithful to His father for many years, but as time went on, even he began to give in, hating to be left out and fearing what would happen to his money, his career, and his name if he was seen as a "fundamentalist".

The woman began to embrace other lovers and joined herself to whoever would take her. Often times she even paid them for the service, more shameless than a harlot. Her lovers took from her without giving back. They despised the grandchildren of the woman and persuaded her to kill them. Most of the grandchildren died while they were still in the womb. Her sons stood by and said nothing. The rest of the grandchildren that survived the 3rd trimester were enslaved with entertainment, drugs, and psychology. Only a small remnant of grandchildren remained free.

The woman became a slave to her vile affections and even did that which is unnatural and unseemly with her body with others. But many years of profligate living took its toll. She became bankrupt, beggarly, ashamed, and diseased. She was no longer bold, confident, and stately. She could no longer stand up to evil or finish anything she started for she had no moral courage.

The few free grandchildren tried to help her. With tears in their eyes they prayed for her and pleaded for her to return to the days of old when she remained faithful to the One who loved her. But the more they loved, the more she hated them. She passed laws to silence them. She encouraged others to persecute them. She traded the truth for lies and even began to jail some of them.

One day she met a man from the street who was like her in many ways. He promised her hope and change, from the grandchildren who tormented her so in calling her back to her first Love. In delight she gave him her hand and embraced him. Yet her new lover was cruel and demanded that she pay for each embrace. But in her bankrupt state, she no longer had the money to pay, so he began to beat her to extract money for him and his friends. When she still couldn't pay, he began to strike her even harder, hitting her in the head. In her dazed state, she could not even see the whip that was brought down upon her; a fitting punishment for the queen of fools.

As her two sons watched the abuse, neither would do anything. The oldest looked on in disinterest and the younger was paralyzed with fear because of the many enslaved grandchildren that loved the man from the street. Finally, the younger son’s conscience could take no more and he tried to stop the man from the street. But in an instant, the older son subdued the younger bringing him back into submission.

A short time later, the man from the street was gone. The woman lived, but she never recovered from the beating. In time she joined herself to another lover who was even worse than the man from the street and very much like a beast. He brought back the chains of the woman’s youth and killed off the free grandchildren who prayed for the woman. The sons submitted to the beast. They and the enslaved grandchildren accepted his chains of serfdom. The beast erased all memory of the true Husband and proclaimed himself as god. The woman, the sons, and the enslaved grandchildren worshiped him.

The beast only ruled a short time though, because the true Husband finally came back as He promised. With him were all the free grandchildren who were killed by the lovers, the woman, and the beast. The true Husband rescued the woman from the beast and brought back to her memory his Love of old. As if it were a distant dream, she remembered the kindness of the true Husband and vowed never to depart again. The true Husband and His helpers rounded up the the beast, the sons, and the enslaved grandchildren and brought them before Him to answer for their treachery. They were speechless and led away to judgment. The woman and her free grandchildren remained with the true Husband, happily ever after, forever.

[Ezekiel 16 & Revelation 19 - Sodom never had Churches on every corner and Billy Graham preaching in its streets]
26 posted on 08/11/2009 6:25:57 PM PDT by Jan_Sobieski (?)
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To: Jan_Sobieski

Wow! That’s a great deal of interpretation and a very good one.

The woman is in trouble and her torch is going dark...

27 posted on 08/11/2009 6:30:55 PM PDT by madison10
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