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Apple's 99-Cent Apps Are Too Cheap, Microsoft Says
NewsFactor ^ | Thursday, August 20, 2009 | Barry Levine

Posted on 08/20/2009 11:35:50 AM PDT by Star Traveler

Apple's 99-Cent Apps Are Too Cheap, Microsoft Says
By Barry Levine
August 20, 2009 9:39AM

Microsoft is wooing developers to Windows Mobile by promoting the idea that Apple, Inc. prices App Store apps too low at 99 cents. Loke Uei told developers "your app is worth more than that" in sessions preparing for Microsoft's launch of Windows Marketplace for Mobile. The BlackBerry, Palm and Android stores also plan to charge more than 99 cents.

With Apple's App Store offering many free and 99-cent apps whose prices please buyers but frustrate many developers, Microsoft is wooing developers to its Windows Mobile platform by promoting the idea that 99 cents is too low. Loke Uei, senior technical product manager for Windows Mobile, recently told developers that, while "99 cents is interesting," "your app is worth more than that." He made the comments at developer sessions currently being conducted in Redmond, Wash., in advance of Microsoft's launch of Windows Marketplace for Mobile.

Better Than 'A Dollar Store'

"We would definitely want to promote that you make more money selling applications than selling your application in a dollar store," he told developers, according to news media.

Research in Motion's BlackBerry App World has set the first price above free as $2.99. Palm's App Catalog and Google's Android Market are also planning to set app prices higher than 99 cents.

Late last year, an open letter to Apple CEO Steve Jobs by an iPhone developer received a great deal of attention on the Web, highlighting the argument that Apple's App Store prices apps too low to allow professional-level software development.

Craig Hockenberry, a principal at Greensboro, N.C.-based IconFactory, posted the open letter on his blog, furbo.org. "As an iPhone developer who's been in the App Store since its launch," he wrote, "I'm starting to see a trend that concerns me." This trend, he wrote, is that "developers are lowering prices to the lowest possible level in order to get placement on iTunes," and the "proliferation of 99-cent 'ringtone apps'" is affecting product development.

'Limited Life Span and Broad Appeal'

Hockenberry noted that his company released a game and a Twitter add-on for the App Store, and they received a fair amount of recognition and popularity. But the problem, he wrote, is funding the development of more substantial products. Instead of working on "cooler (and more complex) ideas," he wrote, which require more development time, they're working on 99-cent titles "that have a limited life span and broad appeal."

Bigger projects, he wrote, can take up to nine months, costing up to $225,000 and requiring sales of more than 300,000 units at the 99-cent rate. "Unless you have a white-hot title, selling 10-15k units a day for a few weeks isn't going to happen," he said. But raising prices means the product won't reach the top of the App Store charts, Hockenberry added, and things will become even harder as the number of apps in the store grows.

Hockenberry has pointed out that one basic issue is how users of Apple's platform are assessing whether to buy new apps. He noted that it appears that "people are buying our products sight unseen," with only a screenshot to evaluate a product. Under those conditions, he said, users are willing to lose a dollar on an app they're trying out for the first time, but not more.

Avi Greengart, an analyst with industry research firm Current Analysis, agreed that "app pricing is definitely an issue" for developers, although he noted that it is "less of an issue" for platform vendors, who love offering the budget-friendly price of 99 cents or free.

Greengart said he doesn't know if Apple will change its business model, but he "absolutely" expects the company to "tweak its promotional structure" so buyers can see something like "great apps over 99 cents."


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Computers/Internet
KEYWORDS: apple; ilovebillgates; iphone; ipod; iwanthim; iwanthimbad; macintosh; microsoft; microsoftfanboys
Now I see that other "stores" (Microsoft, Blackberry, Andriod stores) are complaining that Apple is selling their apps *too cheap* ... LOL... They want a *minimum floor amount* for developers to sell their apps in their stores (read "it's gonna cost consumers more money!").

But, Apple doesn't tell developers what to charge for their apps. They can charge anything they want. Apple takes 30% for its costs and the developer prices it any way they want. If the app is free, Apple charges nothing for having the app on their site.

We can see who has the consumer's best interest at heart... :-)

1 posted on 08/20/2009 11:35:50 AM PDT by Star Traveler
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To: Swordmaker

Well, it looks like Microsoft thinks Apple should *make developers* charge more money for the apps that they sell at Apple... LOL...


2 posted on 08/20/2009 11:37:19 AM PDT by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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To: Star Traveler

“Microsoft is fine if you want niche boutique stuff, but if you want to tap into the mass-market at competitive prices, you have to go to Apple....”


3 posted on 08/20/2009 11:38:43 AM PDT by steve-b (Intelligent Design -- "A Wizard Did It")
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To: Star Traveler
I just found eRoentgen Radiology DX which "provides physicians with a fast, efficient way to determine which radiology test is best for a given patient." Price: $49.99, which is a lot more than 99¢.

Quit crying, Microsoft. The AppStore is as close to a free market as you'll find with sellers choosing their prices and buyers deciding to buy or not. The only thing missing are some apps to compete with Apple's built in apps like their music player. Competing apps are against the rules, even though I could think of a half dozen improvements to the build in music player.

4 posted on 08/20/2009 11:42:31 AM PDT by KarlInOhio ("I can run wild for six months ...after that, I have no expectation of success" - Admiral Obama-moto)
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To: Star Traveler

I’d love to write a .99 cent app that sold a million units.


5 posted on 08/20/2009 11:46:47 AM PDT by TexasRepublic (Socialism = organized crime)
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To: Star Traveler

‘Well, it looks like Microsoft thinks Apple should *make developers* charge more money for the apps that they sell at Apple... LOL...’

Many of my iPhone apps cost more than $.99. This article is a little misleading. And, Microsoft shouldn’t trash another company about software until it releases an operating system that doesn’t completely suck.


6 posted on 08/20/2009 11:48:45 AM PDT by joejm65
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To: Star Traveler

99cents is what microsoft should charge for VISTA


7 posted on 08/20/2009 11:49:09 AM PDT by Mr. K (THIS ADMINISTRATION IS WEARING OUT MY CAPSLOCK KEY DAMMIT DAMMIT DAMMIT!!!!!)
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To: Star Traveler

Yeah, I’m going to pay $79.95 for a “compass” app, or an app that will let me level a hanging picture frame. Good thinking Microsoft. Then, maybe they’ll let me call some guy in India to help me install it, by the many arms of vishnu


8 posted on 08/20/2009 11:49:09 AM PDT by past_present
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To: KarlInOhio

You said — I just found eRoentgen Radiology DX which “provides physicians with a fast, efficient way to determine which radiology test is best for a given patient.” Price: $49.99, which is a lot more than 99¢.

Exactly..., the apps are there and will sell, if they are good and meet a demand that is there.

Heck! There was one developer (not too long ago) who sold his 99¢ app at the iPhone Online Store and made $250,000 in about three months. Yee-haw! LOL....


9 posted on 08/20/2009 11:49:15 AM PDT by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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To: past_present

LOL.... yep... that’s “Microsoft-think” for ya....


10 posted on 08/20/2009 11:49:58 AM PDT by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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To: Star Traveler

MSFT is dumb. The free apps are often “lite versions” that get you interested in the full version. And then some of the 99 cent apps aren’t worth 99 cents. The whole app thing has PC users checking out the I-touch and maybe the Apple Tablet if they can build in some computer functionality (a real keyboard, word processing). No wonder Mr. softy is pissed.


11 posted on 08/20/2009 11:51:34 AM PDT by richace
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To: Star Traveler

Not a bad strategy but the consumer demands the cheaper apps.


12 posted on 08/20/2009 11:52:03 AM PDT by GeronL (Pro-Freedom Fiction Writers Unite! - http://libertyfic.proboards.com)
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To: TexasRepublic

A guy did almost that... just recently... sold about 250,000 units in three months... hoo-boy!


13 posted on 08/20/2009 11:53:03 AM PDT by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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To: TexasRepublic

[mattdono smirks]


14 posted on 08/20/2009 11:55:19 AM PDT by mattdono (The platform I want: Stop spending my money. Stop sending my money. Stop taking my money.)
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To: Mr. K
Overpriced.

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15 posted on 08/20/2009 11:55:21 AM PDT by LonePalm (Commander and Chef)
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To: Star Traveler

I’d rather have a very small percentage of a very large number than a very large percentage of a very small number.


16 posted on 08/20/2009 11:56:04 AM PDT by aruanan
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17 posted on 08/20/2009 11:56:26 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: Mr. K

Yeah..., Microsoft charges *too much* for “cheap apps”.... :-)


18 posted on 08/20/2009 11:56:34 AM PDT by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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To: Star Traveler

Actually, 99 cents is pretty pricey for some apps.


19 posted on 08/20/2009 12:05:35 PM PDT by VisualizeSmallerGovernment
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To: Star Traveler

Competitors that conspire to fix prices are guilty of collusion and restriction of free trade. This is illegal behavior.


20 posted on 08/20/2009 12:13:49 PM PDT by Alex Kida
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To: Star Traveler
All together now....

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21 posted on 08/20/2009 12:15:58 PM PDT by MikefromOhio (Fides et Audax)
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To: joejm65

Microsoft is just pissed about the ongoing failure that is the Zune and their music store.


22 posted on 08/20/2009 12:18:43 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: VisualizeSmallerGovernment

You said — Actually, 99 cents is pretty pricey for some apps.

I would agree for Vista... LOL...

But, in the iPhone Store, there are a lot of developers giving away apps for free, too... :-)


23 posted on 08/20/2009 12:20:52 PM PDT by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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To: Star Traveler

I’ve downloaded 25 apps to my iPod Touch. In all but 1 case the free, ad supported version was fine for my purpose. I paid $3.99 for a card game app my wife wanted.


24 posted on 08/20/2009 12:23:20 PM PDT by UB355 (Slower traffic keep right)
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To: Spktyr; joejm65

You said — Microsoft is just pissed about the ongoing failure that is the Zune and their music store.

Yeah, even Microsoft employees have been throwing away their Zunes... well stune my beeber! LOL...

Letters from Microsoft: An Employee Tosses His Zune
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2319063/posts


25 posted on 08/20/2009 12:23:47 PM PDT by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~; 1234; 50mm; 6SJ7; Abundy; Action-America; acoulterfan; Aliska; altair; ...
Microsoft thinks that Apple' Prices are too low and doesn't charge enough... PING!


App Store Ping!

If you want on or off the Mac Ping List, Freepmail me.

26 posted on 08/20/2009 6:34:48 PM PDT by Swordmaker (Remember, the proper pronunciation of IE is "AAAAIIIIIEEEEEEE!)
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To: Star Traveler
Let me guess...

mHandy level Starter - $3.99 (will cause your car to crash)

mHandy level Home Basic - $5.99 (will cause your home to crash)

mHandy level Business - $7.99 (will cause your business to crash)

mHandy level Ultimate - $9.99 (will cause the world economy to crash)

ummh...no thanks.
27 posted on 08/20/2009 6:56:25 PM PDT by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the occupation media.)
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To: KarlInOhio
Quit crying, Microsoft. The AppStore is as close to a free market as you'll find with sellers choosing their prices and buyers deciding to buy or not.

That's exactly why MS is crying. MS doesn't want a free market. Their game is to undercut the competition on price until they run them out of business, then jack the prices up.

28 posted on 08/20/2009 7:07:48 PM PDT by Richard Kimball (We're all criminals. They just haven't figured out what some of us have done yet.)
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To: Swordmaker
Microsoft thinks that Apple' Prices are too low and doesn't charge enough
Well, comparatively speaking, I think they've made their case. ;') Thanks sm.
29 posted on 08/20/2009 7:08:11 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: VisualizeSmallerGovernment

True. It all depends on the app. I wouldn’t pay US$.99 for any version of Microsoft Windows. The user interface drives me crazy and I don’t like systems that crash. Ever.


30 posted on 08/20/2009 7:29:14 PM PDT by altair (Bring back the poll tax - if you paid net income taxes you can vote, otherwise you can't)
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To: Star Traveler

I love my free lightsaber app.....thanks Apple....


31 posted on 08/20/2009 7:40:27 PM PDT by Kimmers (Be the kind of person when your feet hit the floor each morning the devil says, Oh crap, she's awake)
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To: Kimmers

Well, I think that was a stupid developer... LOL...

And actually, I seem to remember something that sounded like a “cool app” from some developer for the iPhone (you know... everyone is trying to “get rich quick” like that guy did in getting a 1/4 of a million in three months from his 99-cent app). That app was a sort of “flashlight” for the iPhone, making it so that you could have some light on a car door or your front door of your house at night, so you could get the key in the door... :-)

Well, I figured out that if I just opened up a web page on Safari and left it blank, I would have a great flashlight from the iPhone... so I never got it...

Heck! That was my own “app” that cost me nothing and also cost no “development time” either... LOL...


32 posted on 08/20/2009 8:02:26 PM PDT by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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To: Star Traveler

Okay so I am having a Scotch and had to read your post a few times......it made me laugh....so clever with your Safari/light app....you deserve a knuckle bump for that one !!!!!

may the force be with you


33 posted on 08/20/2009 8:08:54 PM PDT by Kimmers (Be the kind of person when your feet hit the floor each morning the devil says, Oh crap, she's awake)
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To: Kimmers

thanks... :-)


34 posted on 08/20/2009 8:17:26 PM PDT by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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To: Star Traveler; Swordmaker
Many, many days late an millions of 99¢ short.

MicrosoftNBC is losing the game big time.

Sent via my iPod Touch 32 gig...

35 posted on 08/20/2009 8:22:24 PM PDT by vox_freedom (America is being tested as never before in its history. God help us.)
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