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Mossad behind "Artic Sea" hijacking says Russian press
Indian press agency ^ | 08 23 2009 | drzz

Posted on 08/22/2009 3:37:02 PM PDT by drzz

Moscow, Aug 21 (DPA) A Russian newspaper claimed Friday that suspected pirates who boarded the freighter Arctic Sea were actually agents of the Israeli secret service trying to stop it from smuggling arms into Iran.

According to Russian media, the Arctic Sea may have been carrying illegal X-55 cruise missiles destined for Iran hidden among its cargo of lumber.

Men acting on behalf of the Israeli Mossad secret service commandeered the ship to divert the weapons away from Israel's regional enemy, the daily Novaya Gazeta said.

Citing Moscow publicist Yulia Latynina, the daily pointed to the surprise visit of Israeli President Shimon Peres Aug 18, a day after the Arctic Sea, which had been missing for three weeks, had been tracked down and liberated by Russian forces off West Africa.

During his visit, Peres, who according to Latynina had no other business in Russia, requested Moscow refrain from supplying weapons or missile defence systems to Iran.

Russian authorities denied that the Arctic Sea had been smuggling weapons.

Russian ambassador to the North Atlantic Treaty Organisation, Dmitri Rogozin, said earlier Friday that such allegations were a 'fantasy' and 'ridiculous'.

The deployment at great expense of Russian Black Sea fleet to liberate the hijacked ship was undertaken for the sake of the 15 Russian seamen on board and not supposed weapons, Rogozin said.

Russian authorities in Moscow late Friday formally charged the eight alleged hijackers with kidnapping and piracy, the Interfax news agency reported.

The suspects include a Lithuanian, a Russian, three stateless people, and a Spaniard, the report said, adding that the citizenship of the two remaining suspects had yet to be clarified.

According to official reports, the Arctic Sea was liberated from pirates Monday off the coast of West Africa. According to the Russian sources, pirates seized the freighter July 24 off the coast of Sweden.

Victor Matveev, director of Solchart Management, the shipping company that owns the Arctic Sea freighter stated Friday that his company 'still has not received any official information' about the ship or its crew.


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1 posted on 08/22/2009 3:37:04 PM PDT by drzz
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To: drzz

The “Russian media” is Novaya Gazeta, one of the rare independant paper in Russia, where the late Anna Politkovskaia worked.

The info is thus credible.


2 posted on 08/22/2009 3:38:15 PM PDT by drzz (I)
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To: drzz

More links and info here :
http://www.drzz.info/article-35167622.html

Use translations tools provided on the page to find your way.


3 posted on 08/22/2009 3:39:02 PM PDT by drzz (I)
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To: drzz

a bit strange explanation. If it really were Mossad, they surely would know that various navies were looking for the ship so the Israeli approach would have been eliminating the missiles and leaving the ship.

What is the point of staying in the ship when knowing Russian navy is looking it..


4 posted on 08/22/2009 3:40:34 PM PDT by heiss
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To: drzz

For a Russian newspaper, these guys are not bad. The information is well written and well thought out.

The visit of the Israeli president and the fact tha the Black Sea fleet went all the way to Africa does seem to signify this was a Black Ops.

All we have to guess is whodunit.

The Israelis?
The Americans?
The Indians? (no suspicion raised.. great friends of Israel)


5 posted on 08/22/2009 3:41:36 PM PDT by SoftwareEngineer (`)
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To: drzz

All Russian press credibility died with her. Why do you think they killed her?


6 posted on 08/22/2009 3:42:34 PM PDT by Deb (Beat him, strip him and bring him to my tent!)
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To: heiss

The Israelis were not captured.

The “hijackers”, claimed to be “Estonians” by the Russians, is pure disinformation. According to the Russians, the ship contained timber, but according to the former head of the Estonian defence forces and the Danish and Norwegian press, it contained cruise missiles.

The Russian story of the “Artic Sea” is how Moscow is embarassed and tries to create a fake story to divert embarrassing questions.


7 posted on 08/22/2009 3:43:40 PM PDT by drzz (I)
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To: drzz

I concur – “Novaya Gazeta” (“New Paper”) and Latynina are among very few, who manages to be not an outright propaganda outlet of the Russian Government.

Whether this particular info is correct, the jury is still out... Looks quite plausible, but in Russia everyone - and I mean everyone - tends to exaggerate Israeli role in world affairs. It’s just some approve of those exaggerations.


8 posted on 08/22/2009 3:45:59 PM PDT by alecqss
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To: Deb

FSB killed her.

But Novaya Gazeta is still running, with or without Politkovskaia.

No gov-oriented Russian propaganda would blame Israel, it would be too humiliting for Russians counter-intelligence.

That’s why the info is credible : because nobody in Moscow wants to read it.


9 posted on 08/22/2009 3:46:18 PM PDT by drzz (I)
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To: alecqss

I should have said “...approve of the content of those exaggerated claims”


10 posted on 08/22/2009 3:47:13 PM PDT by alecqss
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To: drzz

Why am I not surprised....


11 posted on 08/22/2009 3:47:38 PM PDT by thinking
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To: alecqss

Why is strange in a ship carrying cruise missiles to Iran being hijacked by Israeli intelligence ?

It’s logical.


12 posted on 08/22/2009 3:47:55 PM PDT by drzz (I)
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To: drzz

I never trusted the Soviets and I will never, ever trust the Russians, period. They were in bed with Saddam until the very end, they did everything they could to hurt us in Iraq. Screw the Russians.


13 posted on 08/22/2009 3:48:08 PM PDT by moose2004 (Stand up, speak out and stop Obamacare and GE)
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To: drzz

my sources say SPECTRE was behind it.


14 posted on 08/22/2009 3:50:45 PM PDT by Perdogg (Sarah Palin-Jim DeMint 2012 - Liz Cheney for Sec of State - Duncan Hunter SecDef)
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To: struwwelpeter

ping


15 posted on 08/22/2009 3:51:07 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, John 11:25, 14:6, 1 Tim 2:5, John 3:17-18, John 20:31, 1 John 5:13, John 6:69)
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To: drzz

I did not say “strange”. Quite contrary, I said “plausible”, or in your words “logical”.

Plausibility (or being logical) does not necessarily means that something is a fact. That’s all.


16 posted on 08/22/2009 3:52:25 PM PDT by alecqss
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To: moose2004

Cannot agree more, and I’m well placed to say this because I just interviewed a former KGB agent who says the same :
http://www.drzz.info/article-34937798.html


17 posted on 08/22/2009 3:52:59 PM PDT by drzz (I)
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To: heiss; Ernest_at_the_Beach; F15Eagle; GOPJ; Munz; Quix; SandRat; SJackson; SolidWood; drzz

The mossad would not have hijacked the ship, they would have sent in Shayetet 13 and they would have attached limpet mines to the hull.


18 posted on 08/22/2009 3:54:05 PM PDT by Perdogg (Sarah Palin-Jim DeMint 2012 - Liz Cheney for Sec of State - Duncan Hunter SecDef)
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To: drzz

Very interesting times we live in.


19 posted on 08/22/2009 3:54:12 PM PDT by Errant (`)
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To: Perdogg

But if the objective was to support Peres’s negociations with Russia on stopping the sell of weapons to Iran, Mossad had to hit without making any victims.

It is “coercitive negociations”. Israel uses it very often. Even against the US.


20 posted on 08/22/2009 3:56:09 PM PDT by drzz (I)
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To: Perdogg; Jim Thompson

Could have been Arlen Specter - or Jim Thompson


21 posted on 08/22/2009 3:59:03 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, John 11:25, 14:6, 1 Tim 2:5, John 3:17-18, John 20:31, 1 John 5:13, John 6:69)
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To: moose2004; swarthyguy; Kenny Bunk

I know one for sure Russia and Iran have in common.

It is called the “Caspian Sea.” It’s got ships and ports and stuff.

This story is ridiculous.


22 posted on 08/22/2009 3:59:38 PM PDT by Shermy ("disregard for the facts as understood by the mainstream media"..That's me!!)
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To: Perdogg

Maybe they would have wanted a few to study


23 posted on 08/22/2009 4:01:01 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, John 11:25, 14:6, 1 Tim 2:5, John 3:17-18, John 20:31, 1 John 5:13, John 6:69)
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To: drzz

“Oy-oy, oy-oy, a pirate’s life for me!”


24 posted on 08/22/2009 4:02:51 PM PDT by RichInOC (No! BAD Rich! (What'd I say?))
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To: Shermy

Yes the route seems quite out-of-the-way.

OTOH, if you’re just trying to place something among regular traffic.

I’m sure somebody would have noticed her docking in Iran though.


25 posted on 08/22/2009 4:08:22 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, John 11:25, 14:6, 1 Tim 2:5, John 3:17-18, John 20:31, 1 John 5:13, John 6:69)
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To: RichInOC

Oyveh, Matey. Them that dies will be the lucky ones.


26 posted on 08/22/2009 4:09:23 PM PDT by wildbill (You're just jealous because the Voices talk only to me.)
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To: F15Eagle

They could have done what they did to build the Mirage III. Bribe someone.


27 posted on 08/22/2009 4:10:47 PM PDT by Perdogg (Sarah Palin-Jim DeMint 2012 - Liz Cheney for Sec of State - Duncan Hunter SecDef)
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To: drzz
The suspects include ...three stateless people ... the citizenship of the two remaining suspects had yet to be clarified.

What's the difference between a stateless person and a person whose citizenship isn't clarified?

Or is that just code for three Palestinian terrorists?

28 posted on 08/22/2009 4:20:22 PM PDT by Talisker (When you find a turtle on top of a fence post, you can be damn sure it didn't get there on it's own.)
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To: drzz

Blame the Joooooooooooz!


29 posted on 08/22/2009 4:25:44 PM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 213 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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To: Talisker
What's the difference between a stateless person and a person whose citizenship isn't clarified?

OK I know this ....

The first is Osama bin Laden and the latter is zer0?
30 posted on 08/22/2009 4:48:47 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, John 11:25, 14:6, 1 Tim 2:5, John 3:17-18, John 20:31, 1 John 5:13, John 6:69)
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To: F15Eagle

Damn, that was awesome. I love freeper wit.


31 posted on 08/22/2009 5:04:51 PM PDT by JerseyDvl (Since they call Bush, "Dubya" then I must insist on calling Barry, "Hussein" *2009=1984 on steroids*)
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To: JerseyDvl

:)


32 posted on 08/22/2009 5:07:46 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, John 11:25, 14:6, 1 Tim 2:5, John 3:17-18, John 20:31, 1 John 5:13, John 6:69)
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To: Perdogg

Thx.

In a hurry.

What was on the ship?


33 posted on 08/22/2009 5:15:53 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Quix

cruise missiles from Russia, so claim the article.


34 posted on 08/22/2009 5:19:20 PM PDT by Perdogg (Sarah Palin-Jim DeMint 2012 - Liz Cheney for Sec of State - Duncan Hunter SecDef)
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To: drzz

Once again, its the JJJJOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSSSSSSSSSSSSSsssssssssssssss


35 posted on 08/22/2009 5:23:02 PM PDT by Lazamataz ("If they taxed condoms and toilet paper, they'd have us coming and going." - Lazamataz, 2002)
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To: Perdogg
The mossad would not have hijacked the ship, they would [...] have attached limpet mines to the hull.

Indeed. With a small submarine you can do that completely invisibly to the ship's crew. This bizarre attack, however, started in Swedish waters, then the ship travelled through a highly visible route when everyone was looking for it already, and only then it changed course only to be found soon. This incoherent plan is much easier to attribute to a gang of drug addicts than to any intelligence service, especially because whatever they wanted to do they failed miserably.

As other people noted already, if Russia wanted to send some missiles to Iran it could have shipped them through the Caspian sea, safely away from curious eyes. Russia sent so much stuff to Iran for Bushehr, a few more or a few less containers would make no difference.

On top of that, if indeed someone wanted to ship something illegal using Arctic Sea those materials first must be delivered to the loading port, namely Jakobstad, Finland. How do you covertly send a few tons of missiles across a Finnish state border? How do you ensure that dock workers will not ask any questions and Finnish customs will not find anything wrong with the cargo? And why in the world you'd want to use a foreign-owned ship for all that? And why, if you were insane enough to still go through with this harebrained plan, would you attract a world-wide attention to your act by changing the course of the ship and in the end *not* delivering the cargo?

According to Mr. Occam and his razor, Arctic Sea was hijacked by a bunch of locals who saw themselves as better pirates than Somalis.

36 posted on 08/22/2009 5:37:59 PM PDT by Greysard
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To: Lazamataz

Da Jooz

I was gonna post that.


37 posted on 08/22/2009 5:41:43 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar
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To: Jet Jaguar

A Lithuanian, a Russian, three stateless people, and a Spaniard walk into a bar...


38 posted on 08/22/2009 5:48:27 PM PDT by Wally_Kalbacken
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To: All

Should have sunk it... errrr, had an accidental grounding or possibly a collision of an indeterminate order.


39 posted on 08/22/2009 5:52:32 PM PDT by newnhdad (The longest of journeys begins with one step.)
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To: Perdogg

Headed for the Mooselymbs?


40 posted on 08/22/2009 7:51:10 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: AdmSmith; Berosus; bigheadfred; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Fred Nerks; ...
Sounds like a disinfo campaign, and that means Putin is probably involved.
A Russian newspaper claimed Friday that suspected pirates who boarded the freighter Arctic Sea were actually agents of the Israeli secret service trying to stop it from smuggling arms into Iran... may have been carrying illegal X-55 cruise missiles destined for Iran hidden among its cargo of lumber... the daily pointed to the surprise visit of Israeli President Shimon Peres Aug 18, a day after the Arctic Sea, which had been missing for three weeks, had been tracked down and liberated by Russian forces off West Africa... Russian authorities denied that the Arctic Sea had been smuggling weapons... The deployment at great expense of Russian Black Sea fleet to liberate the hijacked ship was undertaken for the sake of the 15 Russian seamen on board and not supposed weapons, Rogozin said... The suspects include a Lithuanian, a Russian, three stateless people, and a Spaniard, the report said, adding that the citizenship of the two remaining suspects had yet to be clarified.

41 posted on 08/22/2009 9:02:12 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: Shermy; moose2004; swarthyguy

Shermy, will you keep the hell quiet!? If the Czar says it was the Joos, it was the Joos. OK? I don’t want those damned Cossacks progromming my shtetl again.


42 posted on 08/22/2009 9:24:35 PM PDT by Kenny Bunk (Congratulations Obama Voters! You are not prejudiced. Unpatriotic, maybe. Dumb definitely.)
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To: SunkenCiv; AdmSmith; Berosus; bigheadfred; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; ...
.....The suspects include a Lithuanian, a Russian, three stateless people, a Spaniard, .... and a

Partridge in a pear tree?

43 posted on 08/22/2009 9:27:50 PM PDT by Kenny Bunk (Congratulations Obama Voters! You are not prejudiced. Unpatriotic, maybe. Dumb definitely.)
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To: Kenny Bunk

:’)


44 posted on 08/22/2009 9:43:42 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: Wally_Kalbacken

...the two people whose citizenship has yet to be clarified duck.


45 posted on 08/22/2009 9:58:36 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows (Crazy is the new sane.)
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To: F15Eagle

EXCELLENT!!


46 posted on 08/22/2009 10:06:59 PM PDT by DoorGunner ("...and so, all Israel will be saved")
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To: Shermy

It’s illegal weapon traffic.

The Russians still claim the ship had no weapons, while the Scandinavian press claims the contrary.

Do you know ANY ship carrying timber, if lost, being researched by the largest deployment of Russian navy in recent memories ?

No way.


47 posted on 08/23/2009 1:10:46 AM PDT by drzz (I)
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To: drzz
o you know ANY ship carrying timber, if lost, being researched by the largest deployment of Russian navy in recent memories ?

Geiger counter?

48 posted on 08/23/2009 7:33:39 AM PDT by ninonitti
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To: drzz

Not Russia’s first attempt.

http://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/world/iran/x-55.htm

Can’t trust Russia or it’s former republics.


49 posted on 08/23/2009 8:49:24 AM PDT by wolfcreek (KMTEXASA!)
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To: drzz
"Do you know ANY ship carrying timber, if lost, being researched by the largest deployment of Russian navy in recent memories ?"

Ambassador Andrei Lysenko: One of our submarines, an Alfa, was last reported in the area of the Grand Banks. We have not heard from her for some time.

Dr. Jeffrey Pelt: Andrei, you've lost another submarine?

50 posted on 08/23/2009 9:19:30 AM PDT by OldDeckHand (No Socialized Medicine, No Way, No How, No Time)
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