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Rating High on Hollywood's List: Immature Audiences
Washington Post ^ | August 23, 2009 | Ann Hornaday

Posted on 08/25/2009 7:17:53 AM PDT by Bean74

If 2009 is remembered for anything in American cinema, it might be as the year grown-ups and Hollywood finally agreed to call it quits.

This is the year when such slick, star-driven, adult-oriented movies as "State of Play," "Duplicity," "The International" and "The Taking of Pelham 1 2 3" underperformed at the box office. And when talking-toy movies like "Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen" and "G.I. Joe" raked in millions.

Suddenly, movies for grown-ups are in the cross hairs. "I'm caught up all in it," Spike Lee said recently with a rueful laugh, noting that the sequel to his 2006 thriller "Inside Man" is hanging in the balance. "I'm waiting on Universal," he said.

As it happens, Universal is the studio that has come to symbolize the current plight of movies for adults, having released both "Duplicity" and "State of Play," as well as "The Soloist" and "Funny People," considered box-office disappointments. Last week, Universal Co-chairman Marc Shmuger told the Los Angeles Times that 2009 "has certainly been a humbling year. First, there's a real need to be making movies for less money. Second, there's a real premium on sharper, more marketable concepts. Audiences are clearly seeking escape from their lives."

Translation: Hello, "Paul Blart." Sayonara, "Frost/Nixon."

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...


TOPICS: Arts/Photography; TV/Movies
KEYWORDS: boxoffice; hollywood; maturity; movies
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1 posted on 08/25/2009 7:17:53 AM PDT by Bean74
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To: Bean74

The best adult fare is on cable TV right now. Why put up with audiences who talk throughout the film and answer their cell phones?


2 posted on 08/25/2009 7:20:10 AM PDT by CaptainK (...please make it stop. Shake a can of pennies at it.)
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To: CaptainK

“The best adult fare is on cable TV right now. Why put up with audiences who talk throughout the film and answer their cell phones?”

AMC isn’t bad, but I’ve seen all 6 of their movies.


3 posted on 08/25/2009 7:25:06 AM PDT by brownsfan (The public schools and the SRM, they are killing us.)
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To: Bean74
Well, if Hollywood made GOOD adult movies it wouldn't be an issue but who wants to to see crap. And the "immature" movies are just plain fun.
4 posted on 08/25/2009 7:26:08 AM PDT by svcw (Legalism reinforces self-righteousness - it communicates to you the good news of your own goodness)
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To: Bean74
Huh? Was State Of Play supposed to be a box office blockbuster? Seriously? Round up the whole family and watch Russel Crowe type for 2 hours?

As hard as it might be for someone who works for the media to believe, most Americans aren't going to line up around the block to watch a reporter movie.

Taking Of Pelham 123 was a standard action flick, with no characters anyone had ever heard of unless they watched the 1970's original.

GI Joe and Transformers were standard action flicks with characters that were beloved by millions of kids in the 1980's. Those kids are now in their 30's and have families of their own.
5 posted on 08/25/2009 7:27:16 AM PDT by VisualizeSmallerGovernment (This Little Piggie Gets Wee Wee'd Up All The Way Home)
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To: Bean74
Here is a solution:

Make more remakes of the classics, and more anti-war/anti-American movies. Those have been such rousing successes.

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6 posted on 08/25/2009 7:29:44 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: Bean74
It costs me $45 to take my wife to a matinee and get 2 medium popcorns and soft drinks.
When I finally see all these new movies on satellite, I rarely see one that would have justified that expenditure.
7 posted on 08/25/2009 7:30:10 AM PDT by Malone LaVeigh
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To: brownsfan
AMC isn’t bad, but I’ve seen all 6 of their movies.

FX will be showing Independence Day. If not them, then TNT. If not them, then A&E.

If you miss it, just wait until Men in Black finishes its cycle. Then Independence Day will cycle through the cable channels, again.
8 posted on 08/25/2009 7:32:23 AM PDT by TomGuy
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“The Taking of Pelham 1 2 3” underperformed...

No kidding. Take a classic movie with a sterling cast and remake it with John Travolta?

Not even Denzel Washington could save that one.

9 posted on 08/25/2009 7:33:12 AM PDT by BenLurkin
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To: Bean74

Who wants to watch a bunch of arrogant celebrities spout off their socialist tripe at the audience for two hours? I have no faith that Hollywood can produce an adult movie with serious themes that doesn’t insult my intelligence. Mindless entertainment is all they’re capable of delivering, why should I look to them for anything else?


10 posted on 08/25/2009 7:35:53 AM PDT by eclecticEel (The Most High rules in the kingdom of men ... and sets over it the basest of men.)
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To: TomGuy

“FX will be showing Independence Day. If not them, then TNT. If not them, then A&E.”

The only channel that shows any variety of movies is TCM. Unfortunately, they don’t always show “talkies”. And when they do show “talkies”, they aren’t far removed from the silent film era.

I’m not a big movie watcher, but there are LOTS of movies I never saw, or would watch again if they were show. Is there some kind of problem that a channel can’t show a real variety?


11 posted on 08/25/2009 7:37:16 AM PDT by brownsfan (The public schools and the SRM, they are killing us.)
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To: Bean74
The reason why "grown-up" movies fare poorly at the box office is simple. Older adults who enjoy movies, like me, wait for the DVD and watch it from the comfort of my La-Z-Boy on my high-def flat screen home theater surround-sound system.

That's why I bought all that crap in the first place!

Theater experience can't compare to the comfort of my own home. That's why the only people going to the cinema are teenagers and 20-somethings on dates. And that's why movies geared towards them are the only ones that make any money at the box office! It's that simple.

12 posted on 08/25/2009 7:40:03 AM PDT by Drew68
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To: Bean74

The trend has been pretty clear for the last 10 to 15 years. You’re getting junk summer hits like ‘Transformers’ and good ‘smaller’ films like ‘Juno’, but there’s not a lot in between that’s aimed at adults. What we’re seeing less and less of is films like ‘The Godfather’ or ‘Chinatown’, i.e. ‘big’ films aimed at adults.

I like smaller films like ‘Juno’ or ‘Little Miss Sunshine’, but the days when the studios were willing to invest in well written ‘big’ adult dramas are fading (and have been for a while).


13 posted on 08/25/2009 7:40:50 AM PDT by Stevenc131
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To: Bean74
With 900 cable channels, NetFlix, and the internet, people can see any movie anytime they want. They need a special event to justify going to see a movie on the giant screen with the booming sound system.

When you charge $10 per ticket, $6 for a soda, and $8 for popcorn, you better be putting up something eye-popping on the screen.

Nobody's going to shell out those big bucks to see something like "The Soloist" - about a homeless violin player - unless you let him shoot lava out of his eyes and and launch him into an intergalactic space battle.

Quiet, understated, reflective movies are perfect for sitting at home and watching on the television. The big screen is for blowing big things up.

14 posted on 08/25/2009 7:43:39 AM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: CaptainK

Where do you live, NYC?


15 posted on 08/25/2009 7:44:54 AM PDT by Boiling Pots (Evil-Mongering Angry Mobster)
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To: brownsfan
there are LOTS of movies I never saw, or would watch again if they were show. Is there some kind of problem that a channel can’t show a real variety?

I grew up in a world of 3 networks with up to 5 broadcast TV stations in several geographic area from the 1950s to through 1970s.

Weekends and after 10 p.m., several of them showed old movies. Now, most of the late night/early a.m. is infomercials.

Now, even with about 80 cable channels, it is difficult to find anything 'different'. The venue of movies from month to month varies only slightly, as they cycle through the same dozen or so movies.

As websites like Hulu increase their holdings, I find myself viewing more and more old TV series and movies via Hulu/Fancast/Veoh. They have a better selection than even Cox Cable On Demand.


16 posted on 08/25/2009 7:47:07 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: Bean74

The ONLY Hollywood movie that I have seen w/in the past 5 years was “Valkare(sp?)”


17 posted on 08/25/2009 7:48:45 AM PDT by US Navy Vet
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To: dead
The big screen is for blowing big things up.

Agree.

After watching 15 minutes or so of one of those psychological allot-of-talk-little-action 'thrillers', I am sitting there thinking, blow something up! I want some action! Blood and booms!
18 posted on 08/25/2009 7:51:48 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: Bean74

Hollywood has forgotten how to tell a story. A story has a sympathic character, someone everyone can relate to. A story that invokes thought, maybe involves some personal ethics and personal responsibilty. This is not a license to preach Hollywood values; the movies that have attempted this have failed, miserabley (hello, Sean Penn).

The Count of Monte’ Cristo, Mister Roberts, Swiss Family Robinson, Toy Story and just about any Pixar movie before WALL-E.

The movie that is doing very well today is District 9. Why? Because it does NOT have hollywood stars, but does have character development and origional thought. It is not a rip-off of every alien movie ever made; and it is making money.

In short, Pro-America, pro-freedom, pro-democracy, be origional, create characters who people can relate to and create a story that is compelling. Don’t be afraid of offending the bad guys (Hint: there aren’t too many Nazi’s running around; but we do have a plethoa of terrorists andj people who think nothing of cutting the heads off innocent people in the name of their God).

The old formula’s in Hollywood aren’t working, are they?


19 posted on 08/25/2009 7:56:15 AM PDT by Hodar (Who needs laws .... when this "feels" so right?)
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To: Drew68

Add to that the fact that it’s cheaper to buy the DVD than to pay for 2 movie tickets and the fact that the “theater experience” has steadily gone downhill for years (let’s pay $20 to watch irritating commercials for 15+ minutes before the show!) and yeah, it’s no surprise the grown-ups prefer to watch at home on their own schedule even if that means waiting a few months.


20 posted on 08/25/2009 7:57:32 AM PDT by AustinBill (consequence is what makes our choices real)
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