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Fire chief shot by cop in Ark. court over tickets
hosted. ^ | Sep 3, | JON GAMBRELL

Posted on 09/03/2009 3:23:56 PM PDT by JoeProBono

ERICHO, Ark. (AP) -- It was just too much, having to return to court twice on the same day to contest yet another traffic ticket, and Fire Chief Don Payne didn't hesitate to tell the judge what he thought of the police and their speed traps.

The response from cops? They shot him. Right there in court.

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KEYWORDS: abuseofpower; ark; arkansaw; badcopnodonut; banglist; beserkcop; biggestgangintown; codeofsilence; cultureofcorruption; donutwatch; jbt; jbts; leo; police; policestate; revenuetickets; thugwithabadge
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1 posted on 09/03/2009 3:23:56 PM PDT by JoeProBono
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To: JoeProBono

Now the police chief has disbanded his force “until things calm down,” a judge has voided all outstanding police-issued citations and sheriff’s deputies are asking where all the money from the tickets went. With 174 residents, the city can keep seven police officers on its rolls but missed payments on police and fire department vehicles and saw its last business close its doors a few weeks ago.

“You can’t even buy a loaf of bread, but we’ve got seven police officers,” said former resident Larry Harris, who left town because he said the police

Nice. Reminds me of some cities around here. Upland California and Brea come to mind.


2 posted on 09/03/2009 3:26:54 PM PDT by Smogger
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To: JoeProBono

I bet you are derided for hating all police officers by post 15. How could you put this up, don’t you know how hurtful this is?


3 posted on 09/03/2009 3:27:24 PM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: Smogger

It was anger over traffic tickets that brought Payne to city hall last week, said his lawyer, Randy Fishman. After failing to get a traffic ticket dismissed on Aug. 27, police gave Payne or his son another ticket that day. Payne, 39, returned to court to vent his anger to Judge Tonya Alexander, Fishman said.

It’s unclear exactly what happened next, but Martin said an argument between Payne and the seven police officers who attended the hearing apparently escalated to a scuffle, ending when an officer shot Payne from behind.


4 posted on 09/03/2009 3:29:03 PM PDT by Smogger
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To: JoeProBono
when the city received grant money to start its own police force, Martin said.

Would this have been Clinton's vaunted program to hire cops?

5 posted on 09/03/2009 3:29:14 PM PDT by DManA
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To: Cailleach

ping


6 posted on 09/03/2009 3:31:01 PM PDT by kalee (01/20/13 The end of an error.... Obama even worse than Carter.)
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To: Smogger

As much as I detest litigation, this just yells for it.


7 posted on 09/03/2009 3:31:22 PM PDT by ataDude (Its like 1933, mixed with the Carter 70s, plus the books 1984 and Animal Farm, all at the same time.)
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To: JoeProBono

people need to read this whole story, its amazing


8 posted on 09/03/2009 3:31:33 PM PDT by GeronL (http://libertyfic.proboards.com)
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To: All

Complete article here:

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5haXSW0np0eqNFStaxdAeRzXQzBkAD9AG3GS00


9 posted on 09/03/2009 3:32:43 PM PDT by Smogger
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To: DManA

yup and they probably raised local taxes to pay for them after the grants ran out. Those taxes ran the businesses out and now you got a tiny 3rd world thugocracy


10 posted on 09/03/2009 3:33:24 PM PDT by GeronL (http://libertyfic.proboards.com)
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To: GeronL

If by amazing you mean ridiculous ;-)


11 posted on 09/03/2009 3:33:44 PM PDT by Smogger
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To: JoeProBono; MeekOneGOP

shot in the back.... prosecutor says no charges to be filed..

its a little thugocracy all right


12 posted on 09/03/2009 3:35:21 PM PDT by GeronL (http://libertyfic.proboards.com)
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To: JoeProBono

Seven cops and a mayor for a town of 184 (2000 census) ... one guy got a ticket for doing 58mph in his own driveway (gravel road to his house from the road). Speeding tickets going for $150.


13 posted on 09/03/2009 3:35:32 PM PDT by SkyDancer ('Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do not..' ~ Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Smogger; Lazamataz; PJ-Comix

The victim, shot in the back, could be charged!!!

BTW- All the NAZI... I mean cops in town were in the court room when this happened. ALL of them.

Amazing... amazingly ridiculous


14 posted on 09/03/2009 3:37:05 PM PDT by GeronL (http://libertyfic.proboards.com)
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To: JoeProBono
I guess every state has its version of New Rome. Fortunately ours was disincorporated after a long series of abuses.
15 posted on 09/03/2009 3:40:03 PM PDT by KarlInOhio ("I can run wild for six months ...after that, I have no expectation of success" - Admiral Obama-moto)
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To: GeronL
I knew I saw this in a movie!
16 posted on 09/03/2009 3:40:36 PM PDT by Smogger
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To: JoeProBono

The event happened in Jericho, AR, not Ericho, AR.


17 posted on 09/03/2009 3:41:37 PM PDT by TomGuy
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To: JoeProBono

The town of 174 residents has a police force of 7.

[Wow. They much have a high crime rate.]


18 posted on 09/03/2009 3:43:32 PM PDT by TomGuy
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To: GeronL

And they “can’t remember” the name of the cop who fired the shot. Hmmmm.....


19 posted on 09/03/2009 3:43:41 PM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: KarlInOhio
I guess every state has its version of New Rome. Fortunately ours was disincorporated after a long series of abuses.

Columbus was disincorporated?

20 posted on 09/03/2009 3:44:37 PM PDT by sausageseller (http://coolblue.typepad.com/the_cool_blue_blog/)
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To: SkyDancer

I get the feeling something is wrong in this town


21 posted on 09/03/2009 3:46:39 PM PDT by GeronL (http://libertyfic.proboards.com)
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To: sausageseller
No, just Columbus's speed trap ass pimple New Rome.

http://www.newromesucks.com/

22 posted on 09/03/2009 3:47:07 PM PDT by KarlInOhio ("I can run wild for six months ...after that, I have no expectation of success" - Admiral Obama-moto)
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To: GeronL
As of the census[2] of 2000, there were 184 people, 66 households, and 46 families residing in the town. The population density was 151.2/km² (394.6/mi²). There were 73 housing units at an average density of 60.0/km² (156.5/mi²). The racial makeup of the town was 4.35% White, 92.93% Black or African American, 0.54% from other races, and 2.17% from two or more races. 2.72% of the population were Hispanic or Latino of any race.

There were 66 households out of which 19.7% had children under the age of 18 living with them, 40.9% were married couples living together, 27.3% had a female householder with no husband present, and 30.3% were non-families. 27.3% of all households were made up of individuals and 13.6% had someone living alone who was 65 years of age or older. The average household size was 2.79 and the average family size was 3.50.

In the town the population was spread out with 25.5% under the age of 18, 6.5% from 18 to 24, 25.5% from 25 to 44, 23.4% from 45 to 64, and 19.0% who were 65 years of age or older. The median age was 40 years. For every 100 females there were 75.2 males. For every 100 females age 18 and over, there were 77.9 males.

The median income for a household in the town was $20,625, and the median income for a family was $28,214. Males had a median income of $22,250 versus $13,125 for females. The per capita income for the town was $8,577. About 25.0% of families and 25.4% of the population were below the poverty line, including 20.0% of those under the age of eighteen and 56.8% of those sixty five or over.

23 posted on 09/03/2009 3:50:28 PM PDT by SkyDancer ('Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do not..' ~ Thomas Jefferson)
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To: GeronL

Yeah that shot in the back and wounding one of his deputy pals really spoke loudly to me. That the DA already says he is not charging the criminal who shot, speaks volumes to me of why this situation came into being.


24 posted on 09/03/2009 3:55:50 PM PDT by JLS
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To: GeronL

No charges, I’d be going to the state and getting each one of those cops and the prosecutor put in jail.


25 posted on 09/03/2009 3:57:08 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: GeronL

No kidding!

I am surprised that anyone lives there at all!


26 posted on 09/03/2009 4:01:49 PM PDT by Ronin (Nemo me impune lacesset)
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To: SkyDancer

93% black. probably liberal. Thought that by raising taxes to support “jobs” everything would be peachy. Ended up with a literal gang of cops and a town prosecutor who takes sides with bad cops.

No wonder the town doesn’t have a single store.

yes, I know its all rabid conjecture but until I learn more I’m sticking to it.


27 posted on 09/03/2009 4:03:00 PM PDT by GeronL (http://libertyfic.proboards.com)
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To: SkyDancer
184 people

For every 100 females there were 75.2 males

and 6.8 of them are named Pat

28 posted on 09/03/2009 4:05:04 PM PDT by GeronL (http://libertyfic.proboards.com)
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To: JoeProBono

I just looked up where that town is. I am surprised that I have not met up with these guys. I used to drive thru there about 8 times a year. I would generally hit that area at about 1-2AM, in either direction on the Interstate. Glad I didn’t.


29 posted on 09/03/2009 4:05:59 PM PDT by tpmintx (Liberalism: Solving problems caused by Jealousy - with solutions based on Lies. (Think Green!))
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To: Smogger

Looks like Fireman Payne is gonna own his own police force and little berg, once he sues.


30 posted on 09/03/2009 4:06:39 PM PDT by bvw
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To: JoeProBono

And there are no plans to charge the shooter. Just damn.


31 posted on 09/03/2009 4:07:19 PM PDT by SoDak (Sig/Edgar Hansen 2012 dream ticket)
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To: JoeProBono

Attempted murder and no one with a badge knows the name of the perp?

Talk about the blue(yellow) wall of silence.

The entire force needs to see prison as accessories after the fact to the attempted murder charge.


32 posted on 09/03/2009 4:07:35 PM PDT by Dr.Zoidberg (Warning: Sarcasm/humor is always engaged. Failure to recognize this may lead to misunderstandings.)
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To: SkyDancer

Note to self: scratch Jericho, Arkansas from list of potential retirement spots. Brazzaville, Congo lookin’ pretty good right now.


33 posted on 09/03/2009 4:08:30 PM PDT by PowderMonkey (Will work for ammo.)
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To: JoeProBono

Where’s Buford Pusser when you need him?


34 posted on 09/03/2009 4:09:22 PM PDT by kaehurowing
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To: JoeProBono

Sounds like the entire town is a poster child for a “Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act” (RICO) prosecution. If it turns out that the ‘speeding fines’ were directly dispersed as salary and bonuses to the police department, as it appears since people are wondering where the money went, BINGO we have a winner. Since the town is a minority population town, I predict a request to Obama for ‘stimulus funds’ for this town’s infrastructure.


35 posted on 09/03/2009 4:11:42 PM PDT by SES1066 (Cycling to conserve, Conservative to save, Saving to Retire, will Retire to Cycle.)
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To: driftdiver

The biggest hoodlum in this farce is the Judge who allow it to continue! The judge was getting paid probably by a cut off the number of tickets collected.


36 posted on 09/03/2009 4:25:35 PM PDT by rollin
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To: rollin

theres a reason he resigned.


37 posted on 09/03/2009 4:39:20 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: kaehurowing

38 posted on 09/03/2009 4:39:42 PM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet)
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To: GeronL

Reminds you of what the stimulous money will cause the following year when the states have to pick up the tab er.. WE have to pick up the tab.


39 posted on 09/03/2009 4:47:40 PM PDT by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life is tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: Smogger
Reminds me of Hulbert, OK. They some small tooled, tin horn, bullies who would write tickets all day long. Don't remember how many people lived there but it couldn't have been more than 150.

This BS happened all over Oklahoma. There aren't any real law breakers so they, under color of authority, prey on people.

I once passed through in North East Oklahoma three times and could not figure out where the signs were. Got 3 tickets and from then on started crawling into town at 20MPH.

Thing is, people would get mad, as I would start a few miles back and they would pass me. Guess who I saw on the side of the road?

Some of the jokers should never, ever have a badge.

40 posted on 09/03/2009 4:53:28 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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41 posted on 09/03/2009 5:24:38 PM PDT by TornadoAlley3 (Obama is everything Oklahoma is not.)
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To: JoeProBono

Holy crap! I once heard a cop say “If I wanted people to like me I would have been a fireman.” Now I see what he meant.


42 posted on 09/03/2009 6:10:42 PM PDT by Still Thinking (If ignorance is bliss, liberals must be ecstatic!)
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...prosecutor says no charges to be filed..

When local prosecutors won't prosecute deprivation of rights under color of authority is when it's time to go to the feds. Can't believe I actually said that, there really is a time to go to the feds.

43 posted on 09/03/2009 6:13:47 PM PDT by Still Thinking (If ignorance is bliss, liberals must be ecstatic!)
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To: SkyDancer

How can they issue a ticket for actions on private property? As far as I know, the only excuse they have for doing so on public roads is that they belong to the public at large (government).


44 posted on 09/03/2009 6:15:17 PM PDT by Still Thinking (If ignorance is bliss, liberals must be ecstatic!)
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To: Still Thinking

Don’t know but they did it ...maybe like you can be cited for drunk driving your riding lawnmower on your property or in one case a woman was cited for a DUI in her home. Not in a car and not driving a car, but that was someplace else. This town is sure whacked out. I live in a town of 2,000 - no cops, no mayor, just an FD with a chief and 20 volunteers. Our town is just a wide spot on Hwy101 - county cops patrol, if and when .... we rely on ourselves for protection ....


45 posted on 09/03/2009 6:21:26 PM PDT by SkyDancer ('Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do not..' ~ Thomas Jefferson)
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To: SES1066

That’s a great point. Police departments, Nifong DAs and judges need to be charged under RICO, and held personally accountable.


46 posted on 09/03/2009 7:36:52 PM PDT by ellery (It's a free country.)
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To: JoeProBono

I wonder what the jackboot lickers will have to say about this one.


47 posted on 09/03/2009 7:44:21 PM PDT by Chet 99
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To: GeronL
BTW- All the NAZI... I mean cops in town were in the court room when this happened. ALL of them.

Bet there must have been a lot of lawlessness out in the streets that day.

48 posted on 09/03/2009 8:51:31 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Kennedycare?Recall that "Animal Farm" begins with a Socialist Revolution to honor Big Major's legacy)
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To: MrEdd
A lot of cops do good things, but that doesn't change the fact that most of the time they are just stealing people's money by enforcing bad laws that are there only to bring in revenue.
49 posted on 09/03/2009 9:06:12 PM PDT by ThermoNuclearWarrior (Obama is a fraud and is ineligible for the Presidency!)
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To: a fool in paradise

Someone posted about a former town called New Rome, I went to that link. It was similar. These tiny towns can be taken over by a cabal and run like fiefdoms.


50 posted on 09/03/2009 9:18:29 PM PDT by GeronL (http://libertyfic.proboards.com)
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