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Was Shakespeare really Fulke Greville

Posted on 09/20/2009 4:30:43 AM PDT by crypt

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To: nufsed

Hi,I do realise the moderators are the best overseers of this forum and certainly would not impede a serious investigation on what could well be of National importance.
If there is a confirmed link between Fulke Greville and Shakespeare I am sure there will be aggrieved parties but they will come to understand that the truth can only be positive,especially as they are both presumed to be English.
The interest shown by many thousands of patrons of Shakespeare and Fulke Greville will be beneficial in reviving interest in practical and financial terms around the world.
Thank God for mysteries.
By the way what is the roll of the gatekeepers,is it to secure entry,to what and why.


21 posted on 09/22/2009 10:15:39 AM PDT by crypt
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To: crypt
In the last 4-5 years we have become battle weary and on the look-out lest liberals sign-up on the site. Many here have a quick trigger finger on any post by a newbie. It can build up a momentum in which their ping list comes abord with lightening and kitties to attack the new poster. Fortunately, many of the mods are more reasonable. Seniority can be everything.

You posted on what I consider to be a safe and interesting topic. However the zotcats came out of the woodwork as if you were OB's chiff of staff.

I consider such people impulsive and worrisome, but some of us see them as self-appointed thread police. Thus the term gatekeeper. In this case, it seems clear they were too quick on the trigger.

22 posted on 09/22/2009 11:39:53 AM PDT by nufsed (Release the birth certificate, passport, and school records.)
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It looks as though I have to go all out here and say I believe that the many works of William Shakespeare could well have been Fulke Greville.
I have just been shown some interesting old papers and oil paintings from his present ancestor,and I have to say that the similarities are frighteningly similar in many areas.
What would happen if Shakespeare was deemed to be Fulke Greville,certainly the History books will have to be re-written and the works will have to be reinterpreted to the character of Fulke Greville.
Fulke Greville with certainty was never a boring person and many of the Warwick Greville family have fabulous histories.

Of course there is always the political advantage played by the Tudors at the time,recognising that Fulke Greville was of Norman descent with Richard 111 being a relative.


23 posted on 09/23/2009 3:44:26 AM PDT by crypt
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To: Nikas777

Certainly Shakespeare was a country hick but a devout man with intelligence.
But Fulke Greville did have the high intellect and the breeding to bring any works of his time to life,thus making him the man to master many.
As far as underground Crypto-Catholic communities,I am sure many men of their day with traditional aristocratic breeding and specialist skills would be invited to join certain societies that are active to this day.


24 posted on 09/26/2009 9:15:12 AM PDT by crypt
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To: nufsed

Has there been any more development in confirming that William Shakespeares works where in fact works of Fulke Greville,Lord Brooke.
Its been very active in Warwick just recently with huge interest shown by many academics and tourists around the world who firmly believe Fulke Greville was the Master of Shakespeare,there are just to many coincidences that tie these two individuals together.
A good look around Warwick Castle and the Church where Fulke Greville is buried will show proof as to the many threads of proof that entwines through this mystery.
An interesting 400 year old portrait presuming to be of William Shakespeare known as the Cobbe portrait shows it is a positive match of Lord Brooke,Fulke Greville.


25 posted on 12/14/2009 9:47:29 AM PST by crypt
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Greville is a great, and difficult poet — and Thom Gunn’s edition of his poetry has recently been reissued by U of Chicago Press, ISBN 0-226-30846-4.

Best one-stop criticism on just about everything officially attributed to Greville:

The Sidney Journal Vol. 19 issues 1-2, Special Double Issue on Fulke Greville ($14): http://www.sidneyjournal.org/content/purchase

Best biography is:

Rebholz, R. A. The Life of Fulke Greville, First Lord Brooke (1971)

Two others:

Rees, Joan. Fulke Greville, Lord Brooke, 1554-1628: A Critical Biography (1971)

Larson, Charles Howard. Fulke Greville (1980)

On Greville’s poetry (especially lyrics), the best book is:

Waswo, Richard. The Fatal Mirror; Themes and Techniques in the Poetry of Fulke Greville (1972)

Nice web compilation of poetry, mini-bio, and criticism can be found in the Luminarium: http://www.luminarium.org/renlit/fulkebio.htm


26 posted on 03/10/2010 12:18:11 PM PST by FulkeGreville
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Fulke Greville,Lord Brooke was not only a great poet and Statesman to three Monarchs he was also the first Grand Master of the Rosicrucian Order.
So obviously it would have been in his and the Goverments interest for him to remain secretive in his pursuing of written works.
Experts around the World including Author AWL Saunders and Historian Christopher Fulke Greville may well unearth the truth to prove Fulke Greville,Lord Brooke was in fact the Master of Shakespeare.
Once this is proved the History books will have to be re-written and Fulke Greville to be recognised as a the true,great English Poet.


27 posted on 05/03/2010 8:21:18 AM PDT by crypt
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Fulke Greville,Lord Brooke was not only a great poet and Statesman to three Monarchs he was also the first Grand Master of the Rosicrucian Order.
So obviously it would have been in his and the Goverments interest for him to remain secretive in his pursuing of written works.
Experts around the World including Author AWL Saunders and Historian Christopher Fulke Greville may well unearth the truth to prove Fulke Greville,Lord Brooke was in fact the Master of Shakespeare.
Once this is proved the History books will have to be re-written and Fulke Greville to be recognised as the true,great English Poet.


28 posted on 05/03/2010 8:22:39 AM PDT by crypt
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Its been some time putting forward argument to indicate the role of Fulke Greville and William Shakespeare may be closer than some would like to believe.
AWL Saunders has just uncovered more evidence to indicate William Shakespeare and Fulke Greville have more similarities than realised.If AWL Saunders would like to comment on his later findings,it may help to further the argument for Fulke Greville.


29 posted on 01/29/2012 3:58:34 AM PST by crypt
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I suppose it doesn’t hurt FR to have at least one crazy old “who was the real Shakespeare” conspiracy theorist in its basement...

He’s not a Mythbot and doesn’t profess love for Obama, so I say we keep this guy...as a mascot of sorts!


30 posted on 01/29/2012 4:36:40 AM PST by mdmathis6 (Christ came not to make man into God but to restore fellowship of the Godhead with man.)
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