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German POWs on the American Homefront
Smithsonian Magazine ^ | 16 Sep 2009 | J. Malcolm Garcia

Posted on 09/28/2009 7:30:33 PM PDT by BGHater

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1 posted on 09/28/2009 7:30:34 PM PDT by BGHater
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Most german POWs were drafted or be killed into the German army in WWII, not brainwashed like Islamist jihadis. This article is being used to justify letting them out of Gitmo and into mainstream U.S.


2 posted on 09/28/2009 7:34:47 PM PDT by Citizen Soldier (Just got up from Bedroomshire)
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>Since President Obama’s vow to close the Guantanamo Bay Detention Camp erupted into an entrenched debate about where to relocate the prisoners captured in the Afghanistan War, Luetchens has reflected on the “irony and parallel” of World War II POWs and Guantanamo inmates. Recently, the Senate overwhelmingly rejected providing funds to close the U.S. military prison in Cuba, saying that no community in America would want terrorism suspects in its backyard.<

There it is.

SRM will run with that agenda in order to condition us for the eventual release of all the jihadists onto our own soil.

You know it’s coming.


3 posted on 09/28/2009 7:35:10 PM PDT by Califreak (If it's Astroturf, why are you trying to mow it?(sign seen at a town hall meeting))
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To: Citizen Soldier

Agreed.

Ping to #3


4 posted on 09/28/2009 7:36:19 PM PDT by Califreak (If it's Astroturf, why are you trying to mow it?(sign seen at a town hall meeting))
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I don’t think I would want the detainees from Gitmo working in our fields or around our neighbor hoods!


5 posted on 09/28/2009 7:36:48 PM PDT by tallyhoe
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We already have jihadist and terrorist in our domestic prisons.

SMag put their dribble into the article, but as a whole this is historical in context and should remain so.

6 posted on 09/28/2009 7:37:50 PM PDT by BGHater ("real price of every thing ... is the toil and trouble of acquiring it")
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they worked in the sawmills here a bouts
7 posted on 09/28/2009 7:40:03 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist *DTOM* -ww- I AM JIM THOMPSON!)
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My grandfather worked at prison camps in Wyoming and Colorado in WWII. He said that in Colorado Springs they used to take the prisoners into town on Saturday afternoon to let them go to the movies and get a burger.

They had minimal guards -- as my grandfather said "Most of them had no desire to escape, and even if they did, where could they go in the middle of Colorado? Rocky Mountains on one side and desert on the other."
8 posted on 09/28/2009 7:42:30 PM PDT by atomicweeder
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“Fewer than 10 percent were hard-core ideologues, he added.”

I imagine that of the prisoners at Gitmo, fewer than 1 percent are not hard-core.


9 posted on 09/28/2009 7:42:37 PM PDT by KrisKrinkle (Blessed be those who know the depth and breadth of their ignorance. Cursed be those who don't.)
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To: tallyhoe

No detainees need to apply around here ... we aren’t Muslim, we don’t speak Arabic or Persian ... and we are sane.

Look at the commonalities between the German POWs and the surrounding farms and factories — Christian background, Western culture, similar ethnic background, even some common language.

There’s no parallel between German prisoners helping out on the farms of German-American Midwesterners, vs. Gitmo detainees.


10 posted on 09/28/2009 7:42:56 PM PDT by Cloverfarm (Where are we going, and why are we in a hand-basket?)
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I don’t think the people in the regular German army during WWII were anywhere near as crazy or individually dangerous as the Islamic radicals at Gitmo.


11 posted on 09/28/2009 7:43:57 PM PDT by GoldStandard
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Not all societies are equal nor should we imply we can change their culture or would they even want what we have achieved.


12 posted on 09/28/2009 7:45:50 PM PDT by BGHater ("real price of every thing ... is the toil and trouble of acquiring it")
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What a crock of sh*t!! There is absolutely NO comparison between captured enemy prisoners of war of a nation-state (even Nazi Germany) and the terrorist jihadists being held at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba!! Most German enlisted men were draftees just like most of our soldiers. Other than the Waffen SS, few dyed-in-the-wool Nazis were involved directly in combat. Many of the upper-level officers were held in a camp in Mississippi, IIRC. If jihadists are housed on American soil, I hope that the citizens of that state rise up on their hind legs and let the elites know, in no uncertain terms, how they feel about that...
13 posted on 09/28/2009 7:46:06 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2 million for Sarah Palin if she runs; What will you do?)
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The elephant in the room not discussed in the article was that the Germans were mostly Christians. Our two countries had the same religious values and historically, English narrowly edged out German as the “unofficial official” language of our country.


14 posted on 09/28/2009 7:48:28 PM PDT by pfflier
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I used to work with a guy whose family used German POWs to work on their farm in Alabama.

I recall a few things he told me about them. One is that several of them exchanged Christmas cards or letters with the farmer for the rest of their lives.

He also said the farmer would give them a coke every day and also cigarettes as part of their pay. He said the German POWs would get Red Cross packages from Germany which contained German ersatz cigarettes. The first thing they would do when they opened the packages would be to throw the cigarettes away.


15 posted on 09/28/2009 7:48:54 PM PDT by yarddog
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Bingo! That’s exactly what I was waiting for when I started reading the article. It didn’t take long to find the money line. Great post.


16 posted on 09/28/2009 7:49:52 PM PDT by weef
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http://www.historynet.com/the-not-so-great-escape-german-pows-in-the-us-during-wwii.htm#hide

interesting story from my parts about the “great escape” from Papago Park in Phoenix.


17 posted on 09/28/2009 7:50:40 PM PDT by machogirl
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In the 1940s we understood what a POW was. POWs are not someone who has committed a crime but rather a combatant taken off the battlefield until the war is over.

We could have the current combatants in the US now, if the left did not want to try to get them access to US courts to free them. The key differences in the 1941 to 1945 period was we had a Dim president and were on the same side at the USSR. Thus the left was content to let us hold our POWs. This would not happen to day.


18 posted on 09/28/2009 7:51:19 PM PDT by JLS
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No comparison at all.

Those German soldiers were mostly just kids caught up in the Nazi machine. My mother managed a PX at a large training and POW camp in Texas. She recalled how the German POWs asked permission to plant flowerbeds around her building, just happy to be out of the war. My grandfather hired them as farm laborers. These young men scared no one. They didn’t want to fight for Hitler any more than we wanted to fight against him. They bore us no ill will.

No way would any of us want to associate with Muslim jihadis — trained to hate and determined to kill us “infidels.”


19 posted on 09/28/2009 7:56:21 PM PDT by Jedidah
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To: Cloverfarm

I know the German’s had similar backgrounds!


20 posted on 09/28/2009 8:00:51 PM PDT by tallyhoe
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