Posted on 10/02/2009 7:40:59 AM PDT by Nikas777
That’s why I allowed for an incubation period (most missed discussing one) and for several generations. But, you’re talking hours and days for those generations. People aren’t that stupid.
They may not know that the undead walk among us, but they certainly would say, “Fuck this, I ain’t getting bit.” You’re disallowing for human intelligence at the most basic level.
The SARS patients were coughing, not biting people and taking multiple 9mm rounds to the torso.
Just sayin’.
I’m still not seeing where you get hours and days for an incubation period. Some wounds it’s hours to die, but most zombie wounds kill faster than that, and then the dead reanimate in minute. If it was hours you’d be right, but it’s not.
Actually you’ve got it exactly backwards. Hospital staff have a job to do when somebody goes crazy, they try to subdue them without hurting them. If it’s not a crazy person but a zombie, and they don’t know it’s a zombie, this is going to line them up to get injured. It’s not a matter of intelligence, it’s their job, they went through years of training to help people, which includes the occasional crazy person, who might even be biting people. The biting guy is not an unheard of event in the emergency rooms of the nation, and staff doesn’t say “#$%^ this I ain’t getting bit” and run away, they hit the PA with the code for a person needing restraint and they try to restrain them. That’s the REAL reality.
You’re saying that a guy’s just killed an ICU nurse and is foaming at the mouth and pounding at the door (slowly), and they’re just gonna send in Susy Candystriper to take another blood sample? At some point, people would catch on. The violent nature of transmission would DEMAND it.
Sure the first few get bit (as I said), but Patient Zero doesn’t get full control of the wing. My wife’s a nurse and she’s told me of cases where the other nurses and doctors wouldn’t go near a patient until the cops properly subdued them.
Keep in mind that we’re discussing “shamblers vs sprinters”. How many people is a shambler really going to get the drop on? I mean, ROMERO SLOW.
And the instant reanimation thing is bullshit. DOTD 2004 had some of it, but they also represented the “walking wounded” that were being slowly overwhelmed with the infection. They were practically zombies at the time of death, so not a big stretch. Dying and the instantly springing back up is taking a few liberties.
Not Suzy candystriper no, they’ll send in the restraint team. Mostly big guys, trained in restraining people without hurting them. At SOME POINT yes people will catch on, the question is how many people get bitten by the first zombie, and how many do they bite (figure it’ll probably be during the creation of the 3rd generation that people catch on), and how much territorial control do the zombies have.
But see your wife’s example feed right into my logic. Yes the doctors and nurses will hang back until cops subdue them. Which means you have cops rushing in to SUBDUE, not to double tap. Some of those cops are going to get bit. And then they’re going to die and turn into zombies.
I think a shambler zombie in a hospital situation can get at least 3 or 4 people, and they can each get 3 or 4 more before people start figuring out what’s going on. So now you’ve got 20 zombies in an enclosed space and even if the staff all get out of dodge they’re going to have a bunch of sick people in bed as the ready made 4th generation.
Most zombie movies have instant or near instant reanimation. Call it whatever you want but it’s a standard part of the scenario, a person dies and the people near them have about 30 seconds to do what needs to be done. No liberties, that how it is in the Romero movies.
“But this story, a takeoff on Dickens’ A Christmas Carol, is poorly told and soon makes Moore’s one disastrously received fictional comedy film, Canadian Bacon, look like pork loin. Grammer also plays a significant role as Gen. George S. Patton, the ghost of the past, who shows Malone such things as zombie American Civil Liberties Union lawyers who should be shot on sight and what America would look like today if Abraham Lincoln had been a negotiator like England’s Neville Chamberlain instead of waging the Civil War.”
"A takeoff on Dickens' A Christmas Carol, Grammer also plays a significant role as Gen. George S. Patton, the ghost of the past, who shows Malone such things as zombie American Civil Liberties Union lawyers who should be shot on sight and what America would look like today if Abraham Lincoln had been a negotiator like England's Neville Chamberlain instead of waging the Civil War."
Dude, I am using canonical references, specifically NOTLD and NOTLD 1990.
Zach starts showing up all around the USA on the same day as per the TV and radio news casts. Now either the infection started days or weeks in the past with no symptoms, and the reanimation is merely a symptom of an underlying and undefined biological agent, or the cause is non-biological (for example, radiological, or telekinetic, or voodoo, or who knows what that can blanket the entire continent simultaneously).
You're the one who insists on force-fitting a viral or bacteriological cause to the Crisis, and all of the inherent limitations and requirements that go with it.
I just the effect at face value, and leave the cause to be determined by, at least, a process of elimination.
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