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Orly Transcript from July 13 hearing
Defend Our Freedoms Foundation | 10/6/2009 | Orly Taitz

Posted on 10/06/2009 9:59:10 AM PDT by Elderberry

Transcript from July 13 hearing, please read extremely important. Posted on | October 6, 2009 | No Comments

I am publishing this transcript of the July 13 hearing so that the public can see the truth. What I’ve noticed it that Obama supporters are publishing some COMPLETE GARBAGE calling it unofficial transcripts. In reality they are distorting each and every word I am saying and trying to show me in a negative light. Somebody by name “Waveydavey” has written such garbage and distortions and Phil from “Right side of Life” posted it. When the transcript of the October 5 hearing is ready, I will post it. In reality I carried most of the hearing on my shoulders. Kreep showed up an hour late and was not prepared. He did not have any precedents, he did not provide a substantial argument. I have provided numerous points and precedents in the argument and counted any and all ridiculous assertions by the US attorneys claiming that no one citizen of this country has standing to bring challenge to this massive fraud and treason perpetrated upon the citizens of this nation by the usurper and his accomplishes (as you understand US attorneys didn’t use this very language and definitions). the public was applauding me repeatedly. Kreep also lied to the judge, where he stated that I have written on my blog that people should sue Kreep. I never written that- the man is a pathological liar- it is appalling what he and Wiley Drake are doing. Drake is telling the public, media and donors that I was thrown of the legal team, so that all the donations go to Kreep. Somebody, also, told the judge that I have written on my blog to people to call the judge. It never happened. I tried to correct the record but the judge would not let me speak further. What concerns me more then anything else, is that Judge Carter sounded completely different from what he was in prior hearings on July 13 and September 8.

On July 13 I was entitled to get a Default judgment against Obama and postdefaultdiscovery, as I have properly sued Obama as an individual fora fraud that he committed as an individual before the election. I demanded from Judge Carter default or, if he is refusing to give me the default, I demanded a leave of court to get an interlocutory appeal. US attorney showed up at the hearing as a party of interest, representing USA and demanded to be served with the pleadings. He was stating that Obama was supposed to be served through the US attorneys office. I countered by stating that the service through US attorneys office is done, and defense by US attorneys at the expense of the tax payers is allowed only when a person is sued as a governmental official for what he did as an official. Obama defrauded the whole Nation, before becoming the president, by claiming to be eligible, and “we the people” should not pay for his defense, I served him properly and I am supposed toget a default judgment against him and a post judgment discovery. Judge Carter refused to give me the default. He twisted my arm time and again and pressured me to serve Obama yet again through the US attorneys office. At three different occasions at 10:40, 11:01 and 11:07 of the hearing judge Carter has assured me that if this deal is made, if I serve the US attorneys office, the case will be heard on the merits expeditiously and will not be dismissed on technicality. As I was refusing, I stated that I have great concerns that the US attorneys will be playing games, as they did in prior cases and will try to dismiss this case on technicality such as jurisdiction os standing. Please read 10:40 line 5. Court (meaning judge Carter ) is saying “In talking to you this way you are basically told, we are going to get to the MERITS (emphasis added) of this very quickly. The government is just asking for what THEY believe is proper service.” He did not state that I didn’t serve Obama properly, he is saying what They, the government, believes is the proper service. At 11:01 line 13. he says “I wish this would be resolved on it’s MERITS QUICKLY. And he is either not the president or he is” At 11:07 line 1 Judge Carter states “I mean if he is not president, he shouldn’t be president, if he is he should be. And we need to resolve it on the MERITS” On September the 8th judge Carter told the US Attorneys West and DeJutte that the chance of him granting motion to dismiss due to lack of standing is extremely law and he is ready to rule and have a hearing on this on Sept 11 in 3 days. At that time Gary Kreepsqueezed himself in the case representing 2 out of 48 plaintiffs and demanded more time. The hearing was postponed by nearly a month. During this month something happened. At October 5 hearing Judge Carter sounded as a completely different person. He did not sound as a brave Marine any more. He sounded scared, intimidated by somebody or something. He was trying to find ways to dump this case on another court- like DC court, drag his feet by telling us to plead the case again or dismiss on technicality- claiming no one has standing. I poured my heart out for over an hour, and at least he didn’t come up with a negative decision right then and there, but I am concerned. We had a clear deal back in July. If Judge Carter makes a 180 degrees turn now and rules for Obama and does not give me expedited discovery and hearing on the merits as he repeatedly promised during the July 13 hearing, then I and my clients were defrauded by the court. Then there is no system of justice for the citizens of this country.


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Orly references Yesterday with what the Judge said back on July 13
1 posted on 10/06/2009 9:59:10 AM PDT by Elderberry
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To: Elderberry

“FREE THE LONG FORM!”


2 posted on 10/06/2009 10:04:21 AM PDT by Dryman ("FREE THE LONG FORM!")
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To: Elderberry

I know. Paragraphs are our friend.

I should have fixed that before I posted.


3 posted on 10/06/2009 10:07:15 AM PDT by Elderberry
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To: Elderberry

The Honorable David O. Carter
U.S. District Court
411 W. Fourth St.
Santa Ana, CA 92701
714-338-4750

Polite, supportive, pithy ... do the right thing. If we lose the court, we have no redress as citizens from harms of government. That signifies the end of our civilized republic.


4 posted on 10/06/2009 10:14:39 AM PDT by so_real ( "The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.")
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To: Elderberry
"Then there is no system of justice for the citizens of this country."

I am open minded on this issue, leaning towards 'the birthers do have a case.' However it is quite surprising to me, a non legal person, how every case is dismissed out of hand on a legal technicality. No ruling is ever made on the merits.

The 180 degree about face by this judge just confirms my suspicion that the fix is in and this contention is doomed to fail. Every branch of government has been compromised, and the legal branch must have a gun to its head:

Never a ruling
Never an opinion
Never Discovery

Every case cut off at the pass. But rest easy, we are a Nation of Laws. /sarc

5 posted on 10/06/2009 10:25:15 AM PDT by I am Richard Brandon
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To: Elderberry; Calpernia

I thought Orly and Defend Our Freedoms Foundation parted company with each other a while back?


6 posted on 10/06/2009 10:30:24 AM PDT by mnehring
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To: mnehring

That’s what I thought too, but that was what was on the top of her Web page.


7 posted on 10/06/2009 10:32:49 AM PDT by Elderberry
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To: so_real

Am I naive here, or would I think to call the judge—especially after he’s asked Orly to stop siccing callers after him—would be counterproductive?


8 posted on 10/06/2009 10:33:06 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: Elderberry
by the usurper and his accomplishes (as you understand US attorneys didn’t use this very language and definitions).

Accomplices?
9 posted on 10/06/2009 10:33:19 AM PDT by aruanan
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To: Elderberry

?
http://defendourfreedoms.org/


10 posted on 10/06/2009 10:33:42 AM PDT by mnehring
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To: so_real
Polite, supportive, pithy ...

And guaranteed, by Carter, to "go to voice mail and be deleted" per yesterday's hearing.

No, it's not "the right thing," even for Orly supporters. He told her to stop encouraging the calls.

From here on in, it's harassment, pure and simple.

11 posted on 10/06/2009 10:33:52 AM PDT by browardchad ("Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own fact" - Daniel P Moynihan)
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To: mnehring

Here: http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/


12 posted on 10/06/2009 10:35:13 AM PDT by Elderberry
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To: 9YearLurker; browardchad; so_real

My apologies. I was not aware of the Judge's request. So ... perhaps the fix *is* in. Perhaps Carter just wants to be left in solitude so he dismiss the case quietly without considering the precedent he sets by denying citizens' right to redress against government. Shame. Thought he had a pair. Civil War lurks around the corner, I fear.


13 posted on 10/06/2009 10:44:26 AM PDT by so_real ( "The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.")
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To: Elderberry
On July 13 I was entitled to get a Default judgment against Obama and post default discovery, as I have properly sued Obama as an individual for a fraud that he committed as an individual before the election.

No, as Carter pointed out yesterday, she never properly served Obama as an individual in THIS CASE. She piddled and diddled, and wound up dropping the documents off someplace in DC on January 20 at 3 pm -- after he'd been sworn in as POTUS -- and even then she didn't accomplish proper service, as evidenced seven months later, when Carter had to demand that she serve the U.S. Attorneys, at that moment, in the California courthouse, so that the case could at least go forward to this point.

So she whines and complains about the US Attorney, rather than a private attorney, representing Obama, when it's her own damn fault for not following the rules.

14 posted on 10/06/2009 10:48:24 AM PDT by browardchad ("Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own fact" - Daniel P Moynihan)
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To: so_real

Pehaps the next Million and a Half man march will culminate in a Citizen’s Arrest.


15 posted on 10/06/2009 10:49:43 AM PDT by Elderberry
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To: Elderberry
Pehaps the next Million and a Half man march will culminate in a Citizen’s Arrest.

Why do you think Obie skipped town last time? No balls to face the people.

16 posted on 10/06/2009 10:53:08 AM PDT by rolling_stone (no more bailouts, the taxpayers are out of money!)
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To: Elderberry

Hope it doesn't have to come to that ... but I'll meet you there as need be. Citizens *must* have the right to redress government ... period.


17 posted on 10/06/2009 10:54:34 AM PDT by so_real ( "The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.")
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To: so_real

I hear you on the issue of redress and I well understand the frustration, but I’m not so certain the judiciary is the branch for that. Are they not supposed to rule on the facts and the law, rather than on public opinion?


18 posted on 10/06/2009 10:54:44 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: rolling_stone

No Balls and he’s never had to stand up on his own two feet.


19 posted on 10/06/2009 10:56:19 AM PDT by Elderberry
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To: 9YearLurker

All three branches are equal and check each other's balance, to spin a phrase. Each defends the Constitution and thus protects the rights of citizens (supposedly). Therefore each is an avenue for redress -- remember the Five Boxes of Liberty. I don't believe there is a wrong branch to approach when citizens' rights are encroached upon.


20 posted on 10/06/2009 11:19:07 AM PDT by so_real ( "The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.")
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