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End of the world as Hollywood knows it
CNet News ^ | 20 October 2009 | Greg Sandoval

Posted on 10/21/2009 10:44:28 AM PDT by ShadowAce

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To: domenad

Exactly how will changing the content of films stop the loss of revenues through piracy?


41 posted on 10/21/2009 12:21:26 PM PDT by wtc911 ("How you gonna get down that hill?")
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To: Jvette
Funny isn’t it how when that redistribution thing affects their income...

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Exactly how is theft of intellectual property the re-distribution of income?

42 posted on 10/21/2009 12:24:08 PM PDT by wtc911 ("How you gonna get down that hill?")
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To: Let's Roll
There should be some middle ground between property rights being stolen and these people being compensated astronomically.

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Hey, maybe you can get a job in the obama administration.....they like deciding who gets paid what too.

43 posted on 10/21/2009 12:25:28 PM PDT by wtc911 ("How you gonna get down that hill?")
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To: ShadowAce
Prediction: Hollywood bailouts.


Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.

44 posted on 10/21/2009 12:26:26 PM PDT by The Comedian (Evil can only succeed if good men don't point at it and laugh.)
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To: wtc911
Huh? Geez, I didn't think this needed explaining but guess I was wrong.

IP rights need to be protected but the market is just gonna plain decide what those rights are really worth.

That will result in a middle ground between what the “entertainment industry” has been used to when it controlled all distribution and what it will become if IP rights are not protected at all.

If IP rights are not protected, as another FReeper has already pointed out, those with talent will stop producing and we will get dreck like you can't believe - it will cost very little and be worth exactly that.

45 posted on 10/21/2009 12:49:00 PM PDT by Let's Roll (Stop paying ACORN to destroy America! Cut off their government funding!)
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To: netmilsmom

Good for the Hamster.

My wife is afraid that I’ll assault someone when we go the theater. I learned a valuable lesson from my little brother several years ago when we were tubing the Comal River in Texas. My brother joined my girlfriend and I in a tube trip. Some punks jumped off an embankment and did cannon balls within feet of us, soaking us.

My little brother rolled off the tube, grabbed the biggest one, lifted his feet over his head and stood on the kids head, holding the kid in about 3.5 ft of water for a good 20 seconds. Scared the crap out of the kid. Then, reaching down into the water he grabbed the muddy, river-bottom encrusted punk by the hair and pulled him up. The kid was terrified, he then shouted in the punks ear “Hey, A**hole, you ought not to do rude stuff like this, because you never know who you are going to meet. Someone may not be as kind-hearted as I am”. He then took this High School kid and threw him ashore in front of his friends. Frightened, humiliated and face covered in mud - the punks slunk off.

Larry said, and I will never forget this “Some kids get their jollies off ruining someone else’s day, that’s all they want to do; is ruin someone else’s fun. But, if you humiliate them, you permanently take the fun out of it - because they are cowards, when someone finally stands up to their bullying, they leave and do not come back”. This is just anther case of parents failing to do their job.

So, my response when I have people like your girls is simple. I lean over my seat, place my face inches from them and then scream at them at the top of my lungs “I hope OUR movie isn’t ruining your phone call - now get the #@$& out of the theater and return when you learn how to respect others”. Yeah, I’m THAT person. Never fails to get an applause from the other attendees, and it’s not uncommon for those folks to return and not return.

People who talk in movies, are rude but are also cowards. They know that they are disruptive; but are hiding behind the fact that they think you are too polite to tell them to shut up. So, do what they fear most. Publically humiliate them - it teaches a lesson they will long remember.

Trust me on this one, when the movie is over and you are welking out - someone will tap your shoulder and say ‘Thank you’.


46 posted on 10/21/2009 12:50:49 PM PDT by Hodar (Who needs laws .... when this "feels" so right?)
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To: Hodar

>>So, my response when I have people like your girls is simple. I lean over my seat, place my face inches from them and then scream at them at the top of my lungs “I hope OUR movie isn’t ruining your phone call - now get the #@$& out of the theater and return when you learn how to respect others”. Yeah, I’m THAT person. Never fails to get an applause from the other attendees, and it’s not uncommon for those folks to return and not return.<<

I’ll pay for your ticket the next time you want to join us. XD


47 posted on 10/21/2009 1:10:00 PM PDT by netmilsmom (Psalm 109:8 - Let his days be few; and let another take his office)
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To: Hodar
"Part of the problem, is that the younger generation has no idea how to behave in public. Heaven forbid that [disciplining] them when they act up when they are younger, as that might hurt their precious self-esteem."

That is one of the major reasons I don't go to movie theaters also. The uncivilized have ruined it. Other reasons include:


48 posted on 10/21/2009 1:15:52 PM PDT by StormEye
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To: StormEye

I know this will sound like a line, bragging or a stupid statement - but with a straight face, and my right hand held palm out and my left hand on a Bible ...

Build a home theater. They are not that expensive, and you can put together a VERY good system for less than you think. When you do, you will have a place where you and your family can retreat to enjoy a movie on YOUR schedule, eatting pizza, popcorn, taking bathroom breaks by hitting the pause button, playing HALO with the kids/grandkids, jamming on Guitar Hero or Rock Band with your friends and neighbors.

Never have to deal with punks ruining your experience, over-priced snacks, late nights, lines, missing the show because you drank too much Coke, and you get the Big Screen experience.

You’d be amazed at how good you can have it, for a very low cost of entry. Amazed.

My wife agrees, we built a theater in our home; and we both agree that we will never own a home in the future that doesn’t have someplace we can build a dedicated theater room. Once you have one, you will wonder how you ever managed without one.


49 posted on 10/21/2009 1:22:41 PM PDT by Hodar (Who needs laws .... when this "feels" so right?)
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To: ShadowAce

Whatever happened to “Thou shalt not steal.”?


50 posted on 10/21/2009 1:23:44 PM PDT by Drawsing (The fool shows his annoyance at once. The prudent man overlooks an insult. (Proverbs 12:16))
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To: StormEye

Date night with the wife.
Meal before the show - $30
Tickets, popcorn, soda and candy - $40


Total for the night is going to run ~$70

2 Dates a month, 10 months a year = $1,400

Assuming you never take the kids, grandkids, friends or family out to join you, over 5 years we are talking about investing $7,000 for a show that may be ruined by others, or simply be a bad movie, traffic, or negative in some way.

Now take a basement room, throw up a 120 inch screen ($750), add a decent Denon, Yamaha, Sony or multi-media receiver of your choice ($1500), good set of speakers for 7.1 sound - I like Aperion Audio, great bang for the buck - ($1200), Playstation 3 ($400) and an XBox (350) and a 1080P Panasonic Projector ($2000).

Equipment cost = $6,200.

XBox allows you to stream Netflixs movies to your theater room in 1080p goodness - unlimited streaming of thousands of movie titles for $9/month. Playstation 3 quietly plays CD, DVD, Super-Audio CD’s as well as Blu-Ray disks; plus you can stream audio from your home PC through either the XBox or PS3.

Now, every weekend will be a ‘free movie night’. The kids will all want to go to YOUR place to watch the latest releases. SuperBowl game? Who is gonna trump you? C’mon over .... and have them bring the beer.

We only go to the theaters to see Major releases we just can’t wait to see (ie. Star Trek this summer). When the Grandkids come over, they are excited to sit with us and watch Pixar flicks. We are their favorite Grandparents, because we not only sit and enjoy those movies with them; they feel ‘special’ because they have a theater ‘just for Grandpa and me’.


51 posted on 10/21/2009 1:41:59 PM PDT by Hodar (Who needs laws .... when this "feels" so right?)
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To: Drawsing
"Whatever happened to “Thou shalt not steal.”? "

People don't consider this stealing, as there is nothing material in their hands. I'm not justifying this, simply stating the truth here.

I can put a set of rabbit ears on my house and watch 'Lost' free of charge; but if I download the same episode - that's considered theft. I can Tivo 'Two and a Half Men', but if I download the same episode, that's considered theft.

It's come to the point that 'theft' has little or no meaning. Now, I doubt anyone would dispute that going to a store and swiping a DVD is theft and should be punished. But, it's a bit less clear when we are talking about TV shows, or programs that are distributed over the public airwaves.

52 posted on 10/21/2009 1:47:33 PM PDT by Hodar (Who needs laws .... when this "feels" so right?)
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To: ShadowAce

Hulu needs to actually have episodes, not the last 3 or 5 episodes, but the entire series! Not 5 second clips of popular shows but entire episodes and series.

Its useless unless you want to catch a show you missed this week,.... what happens when you find a show you like and want to catch up? Hmmmm?

LA is fighting the tide and losing, they need to just accept and embrace the change and deal with the reality.


53 posted on 10/21/2009 1:48:26 PM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: Let's Roll
Huh? Geez, I didn't think this needed explaining but guess I was wrong.

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Your original post..."There should be some middle ground between property rights being stolen and these people being compensated astronomically"

yeah, anytime a presumed Conservative, A)looks to compromise with theft (moral relativism)and B)concerns himself with how other are paid (pay czar nonsense)and does it in one sentence then explanations are called for.

54 posted on 10/21/2009 2:06:32 PM PDT by wtc911 ("How you gonna get down that hill?")
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To: sig226; bella1; xkaydet65; RinaseaofDs; Let's Roll
no matter how much you might hate the studios and some of the fools they employ, the real issue here is intellectual property rights. if it’s okay to steal copyrights, why would it not be okay to steal patents?
That's right. And it's discouraging to hear a Christian quoted as taking it for granted that that is OK. If practicing Christians behave that way, tho, what can you expect from practicing Democrats?

Maybe Hollywood had best rethink that whole pro-sodomite, antichristian theme thing . . .


55 posted on 10/21/2009 2:11:37 PM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (Anyone who claims to be objective marks himself as hopelessly subjective.)
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To: wtc911

That’s how you interpreted what I wrote?

Whatever.


56 posted on 10/21/2009 2:16:42 PM PDT by Let's Roll (Stop paying ACORN to destroy America! Cut off their government funding!)
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To: ShadowAce

bfl!


57 posted on 10/21/2009 2:35:08 PM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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To: ShadowAce

The decline of Hollyweird probably began with the increase in the power of the actor to choose his or her roles. Ever since the stars have dominated the movie-making decisions, movies have become awful. In the old days where the studios controlled everything, movies were more pro-American and generally watchable. It doesn’t help that most of the major studios are run by big libs. I subscribe to both HBO and a few other movie channels. The challenge is to find a movie that is not anti-American or doesn’t deal with the problems of some big city libs who are experiencing mid-life crises. In short, todays flicks are awful.


58 posted on 10/21/2009 2:56:35 PM PDT by driftless2 (for long term happiness, learn how to play the accordion)
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To: ckilmer
"war screenplays"

A movie about the Marines taking Fallujah would probably make a fortune. It will not be made, because it would show our troops in a good light. Especially after all the anti-war flicks bombed (ha, ha,) at the box office.

59 posted on 10/21/2009 2:58:43 PM PDT by driftless2 (for long term happiness, learn how to play the accordion)
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To: Since 2009-07-21

And apparently jumping to conclusions is your strong suit. Reread my comments; nothing in them about copyright, only the lack of intellect/left leaning politics on the part of Hollywood and for those reasons alone I reiterate, Good Riddance.


60 posted on 10/21/2009 3:01:28 PM PDT by bella1 (Remember; it took four years of Carter to give us eight years of Reagan.)
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