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To: Toddsterpatriot

If Citigroup was driving blind, regulators seem to have been unaware. Officials at the Office of Comptroller of the Currency and the New York Fed — overseen at the time by Mr. Geithner, who has since become the Treasury secretary — stood by as Citigroup amassed a portfolio that would ultimately generate losses of more than $35 billion.

CITIGROUP’S financial architecture remains rickety. One reason is that it relies much more heavily than most other large domestic banks on uninsured deposits in overseas locales, where customers are quick to pull their money at the first sign of trouble. Also, some of the accounting machinery it put in place to temporarily move assets off of its balance sheet (and make the bank look financially healthier) has backfired.

Mr. Pandit maintained that Citigroup’s strategy would take some time and depended in part on how the economy fared. Should the economy continue to improve, for instance, he said the bank would snare handsome returns when it sells off assets. Other assets, like some mortgages, for example, will simply be paid off over time, he said.

“We have time,” he said. “If markets do turn around, these are going to be very valuable businesses. This is going to take awhile.” Yet analysts say that for Citigroup to survive, it must quickly sell the businesses it wants to exit. And that is especially hard to do given that it is shopping its wares at a time when few people appear to want them, particularly Citigroup’s middle-tier operations in far-flung regions around the globe.

That means the plan to offload the orphan businesses is likely to take much longer than Citigroup’s management had hoped. In January 2009, two years was an estimate for this wind-down, but that is looking more improbable by the day, according to analysts and others familiar with the bank’s operations.

So, if I am delusional, at least I have company. It was a bank. It added an investment company. It got deep into credit defaults. It all went to poo poo. Now it is in chapter 11.

parsy, who met your conditions


31 posted on 11/01/2009 3:06:26 PM PST by parsifal (Abatis: Rubbish in front of a fort, to prevent the rubbish outside from molesting the rubbish inside)
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To: parsifal
So, if I am delusional, at least I have company.

No. I think you're alone in your delusion.

It was a bank. It added an investment company.

And yet, the bank managed to lose money all on its own.

It all went to poo poo. Now it is in chapter 11.

Sigh......

33 posted on 11/01/2009 3:08:59 PM PST by Toddsterpatriot (Math is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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