Skip to comments.HOMELAND SECURITY LAUNCHES INVESTIGATION OF REV. MANNING ( video )
Posted on 11/17/2009 7:40:52 PM PST by sushiman
James David Manning explains the visit he received from Homeland Security Officialson Monday evening .
Rev. Manning exercising his First Amendment rights way too much for Obama.
This is ridiculous.
Is he sure it was the Secret Service, or maybe folks from the Obama Truth Squad ~ I'd think Secret Service would have researched things a bit more.
I’m next, woot!
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I didn’t get that part.
The SS is a little paranoid these days.
Just for the halibut!
Looks like it’s time for a bunch of us to get really noisy!
Should they take action against the good reverend, he will then have been injured by the illegal president, and he will have standing to sue. By what authority does an illegal alien have the right to harass and intimidate an american citizen exercising his first amendment right?
Thank you - a better title.
His audio does say that 2 were from “Homeland Security CIA” and 2 were from the NYC Police.
Well, I guess I’m not surprised SS showed up. Don’t get me wrong, I “get” what he’s saying...just didn’t think it was allowed to be said.
Point, set, match!
The video is taking forever to load. Probably routed through homeland security servers. ;)
What did he say?
I keep trying to watch the video but it’s locking up.
Can you put it in a nutshell?
Looks like its time for a bunch of us to get really noisy!”
More than that...he says don’t take on Obama unless you have made peace with the Maker and are ready to die, cause it’s going to take much more than TeaParties to do the job.
He said it was two white CIA/DHS agents, and two black NYC Detectives. He said the two black Detectives wouldn't even look at him.
“Italy wants peace and quiet, work and calm. I will give these things with love if possible and with force if necessary.”~Mussolini
Why does he think they would charge him with making a threat?
The 2 black cops won’t look at him because they’ve been sent by a ZEBRA to silence a REAL black man.
The ZEBRA also happens to be Moslem. And a Communist.
And a foreigner with no papers.
“Is he sure it was the Secret Service,...”
“He said it was two white CIA/DHS agents, and two black NYC Detectives. He said the two black Detectives wouldn’t even look at him.”
Maybe it was Colonel Flagg that visited him. Flagg claims that he is either with the CIA, the CIC, or the CID, depending on who he’s dealing with. Maybe his is also DHS now?
Is the CIA part of Homeland Security? I know the SS is, but don’t think the CIA is.
And what threat?
Bammy is pushing it.
I don’t know. He quoted something in the video that didn’t sound like a threat. Not sure what he is referring to.
I’ve not yet listened to this statement he recorded after the 3-6 Manning Report . I am at a school today and have computer access but can’t get any sound out of this computer for some reason . It’ll have to wait until I get home in about an hour and a half .
The Rev is one of the few men OUTSIDE of the military who is willing to die for his country and to save the constitution . He has said so time and time again .
I honestly don’t think Obama will go all the way and jail him IF we start making a hell of a lot of noise right now .
Okay. I listened to the video this stemmed from, and it sounds like he called for folks to put BO on trial and jail or execute him after trying him for treason. He was clear that there should be a trial and wasn’t saying just go out and do something stupid. But, he did use certain words that they probably used against him.
Thing is, if Manning is right you can’t try him for treason because he isn’t even a citizen. You can deport him. But not try him (then again, if we are trying KSM in NYC who knows what sort of case the courts would take). I think folks aren’t talking about the BC issue isn’t because they have been bought but because they are afraid of the garbage that would ensue after the One would be unseated. Talk about a civil war! Judging from people’s moods it may come to that, but we have to push for a peaceful solution because America would not come out the other end of that conflict a stronger purer nation. I think she would be unrecognizable.
I think Obama is a citizen , but he is certainly not a NATURAL BORN CITIZEN , which one must be to run for POTUS .
Peaceful solution ? Like if we who support people like Rev. Manning just roll over and play dead ?
Who suggested rolling over and playing dead. Think, rather than react. You react wrong you will end up on the losing end and so will America. Any act of violence will be all they need to move on to the next step. They will foment the crisis the need, declare martial law, and that’s all she wrote. Mass chaos. Likely mass bloodshed. And an America that is so permanently scarred as to no longer be recognizable. Beck is right here, we go off half cocked and do something stupid - we end up with the French Revolution (which was followed by a dictator) rather than the American one.
Depending on how you believe he isn’t natural born, he may not be a citizen either. He wouldn’t get it through his mother.
What do you suggest ?
What did they do during the civil rights movement? Yes, there were some who were violent, but there were others who linked arm in arm and marched right down the streets. Persist. Vote as long as we have the possibility. I’m not saying that it will never come to that. One can’t fortell the future in that regard. But it isn’t something we should seek out or bring to them.
Maybe this picture will make it clearer. “What are you here for?””Money to pay my bills” “What kind of money?” “Obama money” “Where did it come from?” “From his stash, I don’t know...”
Not only would we have a racial riot if we unseat the One but I know of certain Die-hard Dems who are still so brainwashed that they would revolt. The two put together with the illegals would make things rather ugly rather quickly.
No matter how he is unseated, there will probably be riots.
Even if it’s just a matter of his term being up.
Agreed. I think though that it is a big reason why some of the main guys don’t go after Certifigate a little more - or even mention it. Rush is the only one I think I have heard besides Savage give it any airtime.
” Obama is tearing America apart himself .If the nation is going to be torn apart , I’d prefer that WE tear it apart for the sake of the constitution , and then pray that we’re able to put it together again a few years from now , than let Obama tear it apart so we’re never able to put it back together . The nation is going to be torn apart ...Either WE do it , through the courts and let the chips fall where they may , or we let Obama do it ...There is going to be major civil strife in this country ...We need to be the ones to tear it apart so we can be the ones to put it back together again . There is HOPE if we tear it apart . There is hope if we bring this matter to the courts and we dethrone Obama ...This birth certificate issue he cannot run away from ...We must take down the media ...Boycott CNN and Fox , with the exception of Greta Van Sustern ...We need to prepare for a one day work stoppage . Shut America down for one day to fire a shot across the long legged mack daddy’s bough , saying we want to see ALL of his credentials ...Do you think a president should hide his high school diploma ? He paid a law firm $ 2 million to keep all his records sealed ...How can you trust someone like that ? He’s destroying this Republic ...If a one day work stoppage doesn’t work we’ll go to a one WEEK work stoppage ...We will win ...” JDM
Response to the visit.... in summary:
....two CIA agents claiming to be members of Homeland Security and 2 NY city detectives came to our church......they drew my attention to a posting on our website called Tea Party Members Go Viral On The Birth Certificate......in that I stated that the long legged mack daddy (llmd) is invincible by the vote. But only should you turn your attention to the birth certificate issue, then he becomes outrageously vulnerable. He is indeed an illegal alien and is not qualified to be the US president...... I spoke in that particular posting as a servant of Jesus.....Jesus prophesied that Obama would rise from the dark kingdom.....(quotes scripture) . Jesus also stated that the world would be deceived. The day of evil has arrive according to the prophesy of Jesus.....and now in this day, good is called evil and evil is proclaimed as good. The llmcd has transcended politics and entered into the region of global evil and the bringer of a false hope and false change. As Gods servant, I am commanded to spend all of my energy and time to over throw this evil that has entered into our world ....as an American patriot, I am compelled to fight to restore our republic and it’s constitution. I expect, as a result of the visit.....I expect to be arrested in not too many days. I will be charged with the threat against the life of the US President, however, I wish to quickly explain that such charge will be invalid as the person now wearing the label of president is not constitutionally eligible, therefore he is invalid. This person who now wears the label of the US President has hidden from the American populace all of his vital records....(lists records) he has carefully hidden and covered every one of his tracks that would let us know who he is and why he exists in this nation....he posted on his website a fraudulent, forensic fraud of a certificate of live birth that is laughable at best and pathetic at worst. Therefore there is ample reason to believe he is not a US citizen, therefore not qualified or eligible to serve as US President, therefore any charges against me will be proven to be invalid. Many patriots have petition the courts for relief on this all import issue. The courts have become complicit against the heartbeat of this nation and against its constitution. The defense of the treason, this organized treason and ongoing treason, that is now being perpetrated against the American people they stated that he has demonstrated all he needed to be the US President, however I wish to state that upon my arrest which I believe is eminent that these charges will be brought before the public and perhaps even the us supreme court.... the media has been complicit. I have called them an associate with the Prince of the power of the air...(Ephes. 2 vs 2) . they have conspired to commit treason against the American people....like MSNBC, fox news and anchor personalities such as BO and GB have soothed the American people with frivolous claims that they are there and are looking out for you .they have become complicit...all media now stand in full and regular defense of this criminal activity, ignoring the largest story in politic history.... where upon the worlds most notorious criminal has entered into the position of the President of this nation and has taken power of the greatest nation that ever was, by absolute fraud but with the complicit of the media has made all of this possible. Understanding that I will be arrested.....I wish to state that at present I am of a sound mind, that the evil dark kingdom that is now lived by Barrack Hussein tllmcd Obama, that they, in the arrest, will not take my freedom simply by placing me in chains, but they took the freedom from all of us with their acts of treason and conspiracy to commit treason against the American people, thus we all have lost our freedoms...I knowing and willingly have submitted to my god who has asked me to serve him in this cause and in this matter. He alone has set my course and he alone will be my judge. So, I say to Barrack Hussein llmd Obama, members of the CIA, Holder, Panetta and all the others....that here I am at the church.... in New York .. you may come and arrest me. Ii am waiting. I will not resist. I welcome that you do so and we can finally bring this matter of your ineligibility to serve this great republic and your belligerent trashing our constitution can be brought to the American people..... God bless all of us and that he would save America. (not quoted)
I’ll see if I can find a transcript of the posting that started this action against Manning...the one where he talks about TEA PARTIES and the birth certificate.
listen to the message of reference:
Isn’t the CIA prohibited by law to operate within the USA?
Oh, never mind, law means what these days?
CIA Director’s duties include :
Performing such other functions and duties related to intelligence affecting the national security as the President or the Director of National Intelligence may direct .
Why would it not be the Secret Service? They don’t have to actually charge you with ANYTHING to make the visit itself. [Remember the woman down South somewhere during the election that hung up on a volunteer from Obama’s campaign and got the SS called on her?]
The purpose of the visit is to take your temperature, to find out if you are still thinking of working within the system, or not... To find out if you are condoning or urging violence. Another purpose of the visit is to watch what you do AFTERWARDS — does it push you further “over the edge” so to speak (which with Obama is probably what they are HOPING happens).
I don’t know if they’ll actually arrest Rev. Manning but they just might in the HOPES of setting off his supporters who will see him as a martyr and his arrest as a spur to action (or a set-up for an agent provocateur to commit an act of violence in the name of defending or following Manning).
Then again, they might not WANT to do that because it might just force the media’s hand in regards to the issues surrounding the charges. The media, I do not believe, is ENTIRELY complicit and completely beholden to Obama himself. If we look at the goals of the Socialists and Communists and take history into account Obama is NOTHING in regards to the “big picture” - he is just a MAN, and if they (the media) have to take him down in order not to fall back in their efforts to incrementally turn the US Communist then they WILL do so. Communists and Socialists have been known to eat their own WILLINGLY to preserve their so-called “advances” — if there is no honor among thieves there is even LESS when it comes to Commies & Socialists!
This is a VERY tough situation to judge in regards to what will happen next... BUT, if it’s not Manning in handcuffs it will be someone else, eventually. I don’t think they have enough in the video itself to prosecute, really... but, again looking at History, many ended up in the Soviet Gulags for MUCH, MUCH less... We may be living in the United States, but that doesn’t mean we are dealing with leaders who still support the Constitution or the rule of law.
See my post #43.
But, what he said is not contained in his reply message about the visit. What he said is contained in the other footage about Tea Parties (needing to) Go Viral on Birth Certificate. THAT is a doozy! Bottom line, I think the man intended to push past any limit, get himself arrested, and force the birth certificate issue in court, himself. He said he believes that the charges against him for threatening the POTUS would be dropped once it is determined that Obama is not legally POTUS.
It could’ve been this part... (about 4 and a half minutes in.)
“You gotta take Obama to trial, put him in jail for the rest of his life or hang him... shoot him on the Washington (sic) [pause] First try him, find him guilty and the punishment for treason is a death sentence. Then clean the rest out. Go get Hillary. Go get John McCain. Go get George Bush. Go get Dick Cheney, too. Get em all.”
I don’t know if that’s considering an incitement of violence or not. He did add the part about the trial.
He also said, several times, “You have got to be ready to die.”
I don’t know if I’m just edgy or paranoid or whatever you’d call it, but I can almost feel the tension out there. I’m getting to where I just hate to leave the house anymore except to go out to the country around some like-minded people we know. We’re deep in the heart of Obama country and things seem a little different to me now, but I just can’t put my finger on it.