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Coast to Coast AM BLASTING 'Climate Gate' (I am shocked! - LVD)
coasttocoastam.com ^ | Nov. 27, 2009 | N/A

Posted on 11/27/2009 12:48:02 AM PST by Las Vegas Dave

12a-2a PT: Environmental consultant Tim Ball discusses 'Climate Gate,' a coordinated effort to hide information about global warming.


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Education; Miscellaneous
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1 posted on 11/27/2009 12:48:03 AM PST by Las Vegas Dave
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To: Las Vegas Dave; ALASKA; ActionNewsBill; airborne; A knight without armor; albertp; areafiftyone; ...

Pinging the list...


2 posted on 11/27/2009 12:49:12 AM PST by Las Vegas Dave (To anger a Conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a Liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Las Vegas Dave

C2CAM is doing the job that the lame stream media won’t do..! And George Norey also agrees with the guest...!!


3 posted on 11/27/2009 12:52:17 AM PST by Las Vegas Dave (To anger a Conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a Liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Las Vegas Dave

If Obama lost Coast to Coast AM then he lost the war against the U.S. economy.


4 posted on 11/27/2009 12:56:09 AM PST by Sarah-bot
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To: Las Vegas Dave

Global Warming: The Cold, Hard Facts?
By Timothy Ball
Monday, February 5, 2007

Global Warming, as we think we know it, doesn’t exist. And I am not the only one trying to make people open up their eyes and see the truth. But few listen, despite the fact that I was one of the first Canadian Ph.Ds. in Climatology and I have an extensive background in climatology, especially the reconstruction of past climates and the impact of climate change on human history and the human condition. Few listen, even though I have a Ph.D, (Doctor of Science) from the University of London, England and was a climatology professor at the University of Winnipeg. For some reason (actually for many), the World is not listening. Here is why.

What would happen if tomorrow we were told that, after all, the Earth is flat? It would probably be the most important piece of news in the media and would generate a lot of debate. So why is it that when scientists who have studied the Global Warming phenomenon for years say that humans are not the cause nobody listens? Why does no one acknowledge that the Emperor has no clothes on?

Believe it or not, Global Warming is not due to human contribution of Carbon Dioxide (CO2). This in fact is the greatest deception in the history of science. We are wasting time, energy and trillions of dollars while creating unnecessary fear and consternation over an issue with no scientific justification. For example, Environment Canada brags about spending $3.7 billion in the last five years dealing with climate change almost all on propaganda trying to defend an indefensible scientific position while at the same time closing weather stations and failing to meet legislated pollution targets.

No sensible person seeks conflict, especially with governments, but if we don’t pursue the truth, we are lost as individuals and as a society. That is why I insist on saying that there is no evidence that we are, or could ever cause global climate change. And, recently, Yuri A. Izrael, Vice President of the United Nations sponsored Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) confirmed this statement. So how has the world come to believe that something is wrong?

Maybe for the same reason we believed, 30 years ago, that global cooling was the biggest threat: a matter of faith. “It is a cold fact: the Global Cooling presents humankind with the most important social, political, and adaptive challenge we have had to deal with for ten thousand years. Your stake in the decisions we make concerning it is of ultimate importance; the survival of ourselves, our children, our species,” wrote Lowell Ponte in 1976.

I was as opposed to the threats of impending doom global cooling engendered as I am to the threats made about Global Warming. Let me stress I am not denying the phenomenon has occurred. The world has warmed since 1680, the nadir of a cool period called the Little Ice Age (LIA) that has generally continued to the present. These climate changes are well within natural variability and explained quite easily by changes in the sun. But there is nothing unusual going on.

Since I obtained my doctorate in climatology from the University of London, Queen Mary College, England my career has spanned two climate cycles. Temperatures declined from 1940 to 1980 and in the early 1970’s global cooling became the consensus. This proves that consensus is not a scientific fact. By the 1990’s temperatures appeared to have reversed and Global Warming became the consensus. It appears I’ll witness another cycle before retiring, as the major mechanisms and the global temperature trends now indicate a cooling.

No doubt passive acceptance yields less stress, fewer personal attacks and makes career progress easier. What I have experienced in my personal life during the last years makes me understand why most people choose not to speak out; job security and fear of reprisals. Even in University, where free speech and challenge to prevailing wisdoms are supposedly encouraged, academics remain silent.

I once received a three page letter that my lawyer defined as libellous, from an academic colleague, saying I had no right to say what I was saying, especially in public lectures. Sadly, my experience is that universities are the most dogmatic and oppressive places in our society. This becomes progressively worse as they receive more and more funding from governments that demand a particular viewpoint.

In another instance, I was accused by Canadian environmentalist David Suzuki of being paid by oil companies. That is a lie. Apparently he thinks if the fossil fuel companies pay you have an agenda. So if Greenpeace, Sierra Club or governments pay there is no agenda and only truth and enlightenment?

Personal attacks are difficult and shouldn’t occur in a debate in a civilized society. I can only consider them from what they imply. They usually indicate a person or group is losing the debate. In this case, they also indicate how political the entire Global Warming debate has become. Both underline the lack of or even contradictory nature of the evidence.

I am not alone in this journey against the prevalent myth. Several well-known names have also raised their voices. Michael Crichton, the scientist, writer and filmmaker is one of them. In his latest book, “State of Fear” he takes time to explain, often in surprising detail, the flawed science behind Global Warming and other imagined environmental crises.

Another cry in the wildenerness is Richard Lindzen’s. He is an atmospheric physicist and a professor of meteorology at MIT, renowned for his research in dynamic meteorology - especially atmospheric waves. He is also a member of the National Academy of Sciences and has held positions at the University of Chicago, Harvard University and MIT. Linzen frequently speaks out against the notion that significant Global Warming is caused by humans. Yet nobody seems to listen.

I think it may be because most people don’t understand the scientific method which Thomas Kuhn so skilfully and briefly set out in his book “The Structure of Scientific Revolutions.” A scientist makes certain assumptions and then produces a theory which is only as valid as the assumptions. The theory of Global Warming assumes that CO2 is an atmospheric greenhouse gas and as it increases temperatures rise. It was then theorized that since humans were producing more CO2 than before, the temperature would inevitably rise. The theory was accepted before testing had started, and effectively became a law.

As Lindzen said many years ago: “the consensus was reached before the research had even begun.” Now, any scientist who dares to question the prevailing wisdom is marginalized and called a sceptic, when in fact they are simply being good scientists. This has reached frightening levels with these scientists now being called climate change denier with all the holocaust connotations of that word. The normal scientific method is effectively being thwarted.

Meanwhile, politicians are being listened to, even though most of them have no knowledge or understanding of science, especially the science of climate and climate change. Hence, they are in no position to question a policy on climate change when it threatens the entire planet. Moreover, using fear and creating hysteria makes it very difficult to make calm rational decisions about issues needing attention.

Until you have challenged the prevailing wisdom you have no idea how nasty people can be. Until you have re-examined any issue in an attempt to find out all the information, you cannot know how much misinformation exists in the supposed age of information.

I was greatly influenced several years ago by Aaron Wildavsky’s book “Yes, but is it true?” The author taught political science at a New York University and realized how science was being influenced by and apparently misused by politics. He gave his graduate students an assignment to pursue the science behind a policy generated by a highly publicised environmental concern. To his and their surprise they found there was little scientific evidence, consensus and justification for the policy. You only realize the extent to which Wildavsky’s findings occur when you ask the question he posed. Wildavsky’s students did it in the safety of academia and with the excuse that it was an assignment. I have learned it is a difficult question to ask in the real world, however I firmly believe it is the most important question to ask if we are to advance in the right direction.


5 posted on 11/27/2009 1:02:46 AM PST by Las Vegas Dave (To anger a Conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a Liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Las Vegas Dave

They are all about conspiracies and the cat is out of the bag. They have no choice... Well that is if they want to preserve their credibility.


6 posted on 11/27/2009 1:23:40 AM PST by Sprite518
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To: Sprite518

Back in the old country, they used to call them ‘seasons’. Go figure. /s


7 posted on 11/27/2009 1:31:18 AM PST by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: Las Vegas Dave; All
Mark my words, here:

http://www.freedominion.com.pa/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=1433905#1433905

This?


"Does this mean we can have our incandescent light bulbs back?"

...is going to become the rallying cry that helps drag this swindle into the light of day.

And yes, it is a swindle- a fraud and a cheat and a scam-- a deliberately designed construct intended to con you out of things you hold dear-- money, prosperity, freedom... and a few other things, as well.





I'm keeping a running file ( always updated ) on this fraud and scandal:

"Hadley CRU has apparently been hacked –[epic fraud?]"

Click the picture:



8 posted on 11/27/2009 1:34:11 AM PST by backhoe (All Across America, the Lights are being relit again...)
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To: Las Vegas Dave
C2CAM is doing the job that the lame stream media won’t do..! And George Norey also agrees with the guest...!!

I'm glad to hear it, because Art Bell used to tout the global warming mantra constantly when he was hosting the show. Always used to annoy me.

9 posted on 11/27/2009 2:33:09 AM PST by GoodDay (Palin for POTUS 2012)
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To: Las Vegas Dave

These people were willing to destroy the world’s economies just to keep the grant money flowing. They should be tried convicted and hung.


10 posted on 11/27/2009 3:01:09 AM PST by GOPJ (ObamaCare - slush fund scam that would make Bernie Madoff blush.)
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To: Las Vegas Dave
Sadly, my experience is that universities are the most dogmatic and oppressive places in our society. This becomes progressively worse as they receive more and more funding from governments that demand a particular viewpoint.

BINGO!

11 posted on 11/27/2009 3:06:09 AM PST by GOPJ (ObamaCare - slush fund scam that would make Bernie Madoff blush.)
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To: GOPJ; Las Vegas Dave

You should see AP US History or Government teachers. Ignorance in action, coupled with a complete misunderstanding of the American promise.


12 posted on 11/27/2009 3:07:55 AM PST by 1010RD (First Do No Harm)
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To: Las Vegas Dave
And George Norey also agrees with the guest...!!

George Noory ALWAYS agrees with the guest. That's nothing new.

13 posted on 11/27/2009 3:11:51 AM PST by Fresh Wind ("...a whip of political correctness strangles their voice"-Vaclav Klaus)
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To: GoodDay

That old drug addicted fool still is singing the same song. Since he cowrote that movie book with Whitley Streiber (who never met an alien he didn’t like) he think he is the climate change expert.


14 posted on 11/27/2009 3:21:01 AM PST by x_plus_one (Those who cannot remember the past, are condemned to have George Santayana quoted at them forever)
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To: 1010RD
You should see AP US History or Government teachers.

I've had children and grandchildren breathlessly tell me about Ben Franklin's affairs - without any understanding of his many contributions to the country - same with stories "debunking" George Washington. It's sad - but today's "teachers" are the people who were unionized shop clerks in my day.

15 posted on 11/27/2009 3:58:06 AM PST by GOPJ (ObamaCare - slush fund scam that would make Bernie Madoff blush.)
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To: Fresh Wind
George Noory ALWAYS agrees with the guest

George doesn't want to be unpleasant since the world will be ending in 2012.
16 posted on 11/27/2009 4:38:27 AM PST by Thrownatbirth (.....Iraq Invasion fan since '91.)
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To: GOPJ

“I’ve had children and grandchildren breathlessly tell me about Ben Franklin’s affairs - without any understanding of his many contributions to the country - same with stories “debunking” George Washington. It’s sad - but today’s “teachers” are the people who were unionized shop clerks in my day.”

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The sad thing is, if liberals get their way, in 100 years school children will not hear about Clinton’s affairs. why wait 100 years though, I am sure they are already being taught that, “Bill Clinton was never impeached, “MonicaGate?” Nope Clinton made the economy strong and kept us safe boys and girls. Now that evil GWB on the other hand...”


17 posted on 11/27/2009 4:50:01 AM PST by RatsDawg (At least we don't have to worry about riding in Ted Kennedy's car anymore...)
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To: GOPJ

Ny daughter tells me the founding fathers are described as “radicals” every time they are mentioned in textbooks. Damn sad.


18 posted on 11/27/2009 4:52:21 AM PST by texas_mrs
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To: Las Vegas Dave; rlmorel; Nervous Tick; 4horses+amule; WL-law; Fractal Trader; Beowulf; ...
I caught part of this last night driving home. I'll be looking later for a podcast, etc. I have purchased programs on audio cassette in the past. Wonder if they still offer them in the age of podcast?

 


Beam me to Planet Gore !

19 posted on 11/27/2009 5:18:58 AM PST by steelyourfaith (Time to prosecute Al Gore now that fellow scam artist Bernie Madoff is in stir.)
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To: steelyourfaith

**I caught part of this last night driving home. I’ll be looking later for a podcast, etc. **

YOu can buy in like Rush’s 24/7, but if you listen tonight from around 9 or 10 (Eastern) some stations run replay of last night’s show ...here’s a good link for the list.

http://www.streamingradioguide.com/streaming-radio-stations.php?formatid=1


20 posted on 11/27/2009 5:27:05 AM PST by gwilhelm56 (Pray for Obama: Psalm 109:8 "Let his days be few; and let another take his office. ")
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To: Las Vegas Dave
It's not easy to change direction of a huge ship. It takes time and the man-made global warming freaks and frauds have been building steam in their direction a long time.

21 posted on 11/27/2009 5:45:06 AM PST by FreeAtlanta (There is no "O" in Transparency.)
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To: FreeAtlanta
It takes time and the man-made global warming freaks and frauds have been building steam in their direction a long time.

So was ACORN, yet they were brought to their knees in less 3 months by a silly video. Even San Franciso (!) is kicking the thugs out.
22 posted on 11/27/2009 6:31:06 AM PST by Thrownatbirth (.....Iraq Invasion fan since '91.)
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To: GoodDay; SunkenCiv
Didn't he write the book that became the movie called something like, "The Day After" ???

Didn't he and horror writer Whitley Streibler write some book called something like, "The Coming Global Superstorm," or SOMETHING like that????

23 posted on 11/27/2009 6:39:32 AM PST by hennie pennie
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To: Fresh Wind
"George Noory ALWAYS agrees with the guest. That's nothing new."

I've listened to C2C sporadically for years...In fairness to Noory (and Art Bell for that matter), they've both always represented the show as being a platform for outside the mainstream views, and allowing their guests to present opinions and viewpoints that wouldn't otherwise get any exposure. I've heard Bell and Noory both say words to the effect that they don't like open confrontation with their guests, and expect their listeners to make up their minds for themselves. I have heard them both ask some very skeptical questions of various guests.

Furthermore, Noory has often stated his view that climate change, for what it is, is natural and largely, if not exclusively a solar phenomena and he has bever been on board with anthropegnic global warming.

24 posted on 11/27/2009 6:45:08 AM PST by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: x_plus_one
>>>> "That old drug addicted fool still is singing the same song. Since he cowrote that movie book with Whitley Streiber (who never met an alien he didn't like) he think he is the climate change expert." <<<<

Wow, I didn't realized he was drug addled, although I had read some online articles about him having two children from his first marriage in Japan, whomm he never acknowledged, even after they started emailing him, when they became adults. Somewhere, someone wrote a long article about Art Bell's half-Japanese son, and within days, Art Bell quit his radio gig.

Pathetic.

What drug is he addicted to?? Was it some prescription pain reliever for his back?

25 posted on 11/27/2009 6:46:59 AM PST by hennie pennie
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To: x_plus_one; SunkenCiv; blam
Art Bell went into immediate permanent retirement very shortly after this article about Vincent Pontius and his sister, son & daughter of Art Bell was available online.

Lost in Space | News and Opinion | Philadelphia Weekly

July 4, 2007

.....He and his younger sister grew up without knowing their birth father, a man who left when Pontius was just 3 years old. His mother remarried about two years later but that man left when Pontius was around 13.

Issues? Pontius had them. Trust issues. Abandonment issues. He always needed to be in a relationship. He just couldn't maintain one. Both he and his sister say they were sexually abused in the years after their birth father left. (The person they allege preyed upon them isn't named anywhere in this article because no criminal charges have been filed.) Only the last few years have brought him any peace.

Two years ago he discovered he had a 12-year-old daughter of his own. He's now 41, married, the father of a little girl he didn't know existed until recently, and he and his wife are expecting a child of their own in January. He supervises the mailroom at Philadelphia magazine, tucked away in a windowless office on the 36th floor of a sleek city office tower that boasts views stretching miles.

His interest in the paranormal continues unabated. In some ways that facet of his personality may seem more important now than it did when he was a child. Because about 10 years ago his sister made contact with their birth father, who was by then the king of the paranormal--radio talk show legend Art Bell.

Bell founded the Coast to Coast radio show, specializing in paranormal topics, in the '90s, tapping into an interest in UFOs and ghosts that few before knew existed on quite this scale. Though he's been in a kind of semiretirement for several years now, broadcasting mostly on the weekends, the Coast brand has continued on, hosted by George Noory and available in Philadelphia on 1210 WPHT-AM from 2 to 5 a.m. weekdays. The show's website lists roughly 520 affiliates, literally extending from coast to coast, uniting millions of listeners around the subject of the paranormal, and potentially casting some light on Pontius' paranormal fixation.

Google cache text version of article

27 posted on 11/27/2009 7:03:50 AM PST by hennie pennie
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To: Las Vegas Dave

Heard it. I was shocked because he’s always bought into the GW fraud but maybe he’s just agreeing with another guest and there’s no real conviction to what he believes.


28 posted on 11/27/2009 7:05:30 AM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma (Al Franken--the face of the third-party voters)
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To: hennie pennie; AdmSmith; Berosus; bigheadfred; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; ...

Interesting, thanks hennie pennie.


29 posted on 11/27/2009 7:39:48 AM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: hennie pennie

They did two books together, apparently. I knew about “The Coming Global Superstorm” which is a crock of bull, and apparently cowrote “The Day After Tomorrow”. Strieber is a poor man’s Stephen King (I don’t mean that as high praise, either) and wrote “Communion” which purports to be a fictionalized version of Strieber’s own claimed experiences with alien abductions. There are those in the mental health care field who attribute alien abduction to childhood sexual abuse.


30 posted on 11/27/2009 7:44:30 AM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: hennie pennie

http://www.unknowncountry.com/diary/?id=103


31 posted on 11/27/2009 7:45:39 AM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: hennie pennie
The entire article was posted here at FR the last time that AB retired. It is located, in full, here:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1859484/replies?c=88

32 posted on 11/27/2009 7:55:29 AM PST by hennie pennie
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To: SunkenCiv

Goodness, I can’t imagine anyone keeping such tripe on their website - what do you think of that specific article?


33 posted on 11/27/2009 8:04:19 AM PST by hennie pennie
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To: Thrownatbirth

I agree. Hopefully, once we get the ship turned, we can bring back an era of good science. I hope for the career end of a lot of these socialist junk scientists. I am on the edge of my seat for a Michael Moor documentary on “Big Science” and how corporations like Gore’s, Soros’ and GE have pushed fraudulent population brainwashing scams down our throats to line their pockets.


34 posted on 11/27/2009 8:43:37 AM PST by FreeAtlanta (There is no "O" in Transparency.)
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To: FreeAtlanta; All

“Hopefully, once we get the ship turned”, I much prefer a mk 48 torpedo into the sides of it! So that way this will not happen again!


35 posted on 11/27/2009 9:05:24 AM PST by TMSuchman (Semper Fi & Carry out the plan of the day....)
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To: hennie pennie

It’s a great website if you’ve got to store a lot of tripe. :’)


36 posted on 11/27/2009 10:28:05 AM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: GOPJ

We home school and so our kids were disappointed in Ben, but spent 95% of their time studying his contributions to the
American people, human liberty and world science.

We touched on human failings and temptation from a Christian worldview. Another void in the proper education of children.


37 posted on 11/27/2009 10:57:14 AM PST by 1010RD (First Do No Harm)
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To: GoodDay; x_plus_one; hennie pennie; Joe 6-pack

“Will there be a global government with a benevolent dictator, overseeing global law, global police and a global judiciary in an attempt to make the world cleaner, peaceful and prosperous? If that’s what it takes to achieve these ends, so be it.” — from The Quickening by Art Bell, page 309


38 posted on 11/27/2009 10:57:22 AM PST by my_pointy_head_is_sharp
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To: my_pointy_head_is_sharp

“from The Quickening by Art Bell, page 309...”

Wow, I had no idea Bell wrote something like that. He always bragged that he was “libertarian”!

I do remember a very sympathetic interview he had back in 1992 (I believe) with the late Harry Browne, an investment advisor who was the libertarian candidate for President. I simply assumed that Bell agreed with traditional ideas of freedom, economic liberty, private property, etc.


39 posted on 11/27/2009 12:31:28 PM PST by GoodDay (Palin for POTUS 2012)
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To: Snurple; PugetSoundSoldier

*ping*


40 posted on 11/27/2009 1:08:33 PM PST by hennie pennie
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