I totally meant it as a compliment.
Their deceit is unbelievable.
Thank you so much for your work.
They all claimed to be christian today, while saying they are the only true church of Christ.
I don’t understand how you(they) can be the only true church of christ.
Christ is, as he is and as he will or shall ever be.
I am working toward Js’ statement that all others are apostacy and need to figure a clever trap of agreement and spring the surprise on them and when I do, it will be an insurmountable statement that cannot be refuted.
It needs to be done in such a way that is not insulting but shines such a bright light that is in irrefutable.
I will find it.
Their statements do not make sense.
Their Twinity, of God and Jesus appearing as men, is just so much nonsense.
I have been instructed to read something, that upon my reading it and asking God for word and truth of its reading, will leave me with no other choice but to accept the word of their Seer as the gospel of god.
I forget, at this time what they asked me to read, to confirm their belief system. But, I will read it tomorrow.
Thank you again from a Christian for Jesus.
They all claimed to be christian today, while saying they are the only true church of Christ.
I don’t understand how you(they) can be the only true church of christ.
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This idea comes out of JS’s interest (and Sidney Rigdon’s ministerial training) in the Restoration movement which was prominent in the early 19th Century. Here is a very basic introduction to it:
http://www.gotquestions.org/Restoration-movement.html
The idea was that Christianity needed to return to the New Testament church. Smith (and Rigdon who developed most early LDS theology) incorporated many of Campbell’s ideas and took some to the extreme.
The LDS really do believe they are the ONLY true Christians and that the LDS church is EXACTLY how Jesus Christ established it here on earth. They believe that Christ, while here on earth, established a specific denomination and that JS restored it because after the death of Jesus and the apostles fell into apostasy. IOW, Jesus was mistaken (or lying) when he said that the ‘gates of hell shall not prevail’ shall not prevail against His church.
I have never been able to get a satisfactory answer as to how the LDS can change practice/doctrine yet still claim to be the Original New Testament church. The excuse of continuing revelation falls flat in that they are in essence stating that Christ did not really establish the full church (and thus the early Christian believers are apostates) OR they are admitting to changing the “restored” gospel making the LDS church a “reformed” church instead.
Their Twinity, of God and Jesus appearing as men, is just so much nonsense.
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I read recently something that stated asked how the LDS could believe in a God that threw out “spiritual red herrings”. The Bible (and Jesus) teaches that God is spirit and we must worship Him in spirit and truth, and then 2000 years later “POOF” God shows up to Smith in a body of flesh and bones! That is a huge “Gotcha” to all the believers who lived for thousands of years believing He was a Spirit.
I have been instructed to read something, that upon my reading it and asking God for word and truth of its reading, will leave me with no other choice but to accept the word of their Seer as the gospel of god.
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It was most likely “Moroni’s Promise” in the Book of Mormon.
And when ye shall receive these things, I would exhort you that ye would ask God, the Eternal Father, in the name of Christ, if these things are not true; and if ye shall ask with a sincere heart, with real intent, having faith in Christ, he will manifest the truth of it unto you, by the power of the Holy Ghost. [Moroni 10:4]
The problem with this passage is it is circular. If you pray and DO NOT recieve a witness that it is true, then it is YOUR fault. You either...
didn’t ask in the name of Christ...
have a sincere heart...
real intent...
or have faith in Christ.
Add to that the pressure of friends/missionaries testifying that THEY felt the “burning in the bosom” when they prayed about the BOM (or any other LDS doctrine) it is easy to convince yourself that you are having the same experience or do not have enough faith.
Important note: The BIBLE NEVER says anything about praying to know if it is true. It doesn’t need to.
Thank you again from a Christian for Jesus.
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Soli Deo Gloria.
I am only doing what I really believe God has called me to do. I used to decry my membership in the LDS, and felt guilty for believing such blasphemies. Now I can see that, while it was not God’s will I join the LDS, He has used that experience for His glory.