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To: Gemsbok

“STOP the lies Spectra”....Now you STOP the speculations Gemsbroke!
You can post all those information as to what those Kenyan goverment officials have said about the effect of Obama’s visit. The fact of the matter is this.

1. Kenya has always had a VIOLENT political climate even before Obama’s visit.
2. Obama visited Kenya on a fact finding mission as directed by the senate.(COBEL OBAMA)
3. There is no where to be found or prove that Obama openly supported Odinga, on the contrary Obama addressed that issue during his speech in that Kenyan University.
4. It’s a fact that Odinga took advantage of Obama’s visit to be always present wherever Obama made public appearances to boost his candidacy. That same tactic was made by Imelda Marcos to Pope John Paul II when he visited the Philippines to show legitimacy to the despotic Marcos regime but those filipinos did not buy into the trick! The Kenyan people did not buy Odinga’s trick he lost the election despite his photo ops with Obama!
5. It’s a fact the Obama gave all Kenyan officials the time to be with him.

So, why do you insist that Obama somehow has a connection to what is happening in Kenya? Odinga himself lately said that “Obama is not Kenyan, he is American”

So, why do you insist that those violent pictures some how proves that Obama is guilty of some conspiracy or what have you?

Is it just that you want to legitimize your dislike of Obama because he is BLACK?

I DON’T HAVE ANYTHING FARTHER TO TALK TO YOU!


149 posted on 01/26/2010 12:37:04 PM PST by Sectumsepra
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To: Sectumsepra; LucyT

Rectumsepra,
You have just proven yourself to have signed up on FRee Republic for the sole purpose of misrepresenting the truth and distorting factual accounts to support your Leftist agenda.

You are unable to refute the audible words of Obama, the President of Kenya, or his official representatives. I have provided you with numerous links and videos of your master politico in action——
Spectra, You Lose

You are unable to spin, twist, or defame the Kenyan government’s words as “”right-winger-wacist”” -—Spectra, You Lose

And when you fail to prove your point, you just scream real loud.....

That’s, Racist, that’s wacist, that’s wacist, that’s wacist.

And, as a classic weak-minded Obama Knee-padder, You ask me this?

From RectumSepra: “Is it just that you want to legitimize your dislike of Obama because he is BLACK?”

Never discussed how much I like or dislike him, or his skin-tone. What color am I supposed to be? Just linked you to what the man has said and done -On The Record, in Kenya.

and, by the way, you Wacist-FOOL,

You need to return to where ever you learned to speak the English language and get a refund after composing this sentence...

I DON’T HAVE ANYTHING -FARTHER- TO TALK TO YOU!


150 posted on 01/26/2010 2:51:20 PM PST by Gemsbok (Dead men tell no tales!)
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To: All

Very nice Obama Odinga discussion.

I just wish to remember that,
Odinga is the prime minister of Kenya
Odinga is Christian and does not support Sharia
Odinga is not Osama Bin Laden

So I believe that, whatever the connections are between Obama and Odinga, they are basically meaningless in the pursuit of evidence to Obama’s ineligibility. As usual many discuss the stregth of the ties between the two men but few question the assumptions (Odinga, Sharia etc). I will stay neutral on this argument besides reminding again that
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raila_Odinga
Odinga is Christian, born Anglican and now Born Again Christian.

In his biography (which I suggest you all read) there is absolutely nothing Muslim about Odinga. Obama is by far more muslim than Odinga. So how did this Sharia bullshit come up ?

Also brush up your info about his “socialism” (same source)

“According his website, Raila lists himself as a social democrat,thus distancing himself from his late father, who was openly socialist. His party, the LDP, is affiliated to the Liberal International.”

Liberal International is a federation of Liberal and progressive parties. It’s orientation is social democratic.

What continues to amaze me is how we tend to rely allways more upon comments and allways less upon infos. Same is happening with Lucas Smith, the myth is prevailing over the facts.

And the same is happening with Obama the Socialist, Nazi Communist. Personally I believe Onama stands indeed on the left side of the American Political spectrum but, and this is my very personal opinion, well within it.
The current political debate should not be about Capitalism vs Socialism, Communism or Nazism. The correct debate should be about State Capialism vs Private Capitalism. The issue is being debated worldwide and it is the consequence of the financial crisis. The financial crisis has seriously damaged the reputation of Private Capitalism. State Capitalism, which I do not defend or approve, is just the logical consequence of the failure of Private Capitalism (mainly in its’financial institutions and instruments).
So I respect those who oppose Obama because they fear State Capitalism (China) I don’t respect the legions who decry the cummunist, nazi, socialist, born in Kenya usurper.

back to Lucas

The myth:

Lucas the honest patriot landed in Congo and trekked the jungle across three nations into Kenya,in Nairobi he rented a car and drove to Mombasa (btw why didn’t he trek directly to Mombasa ? - he would have shorthend his 1000 miles trek by a few hudred). Once there he bribed a policeman and on the 19th of Feb took hold of the Kenyan Birth Certificate of Barack Hussein Obama. Triumphant he returned to the US and became a star. He imagines himself as future President.

The fact:

Lucas the professional forger never was in Kenya. The pics to illustrate African settings were shot in Santo Domingo, as were the videos. Lucas forged the document basing himself on Internet information. He mispelled the name of the signing Chief Administrator because a Kenyan paper (his source) mispelled it. He also dated his forgery back to the time when the mispelled doctor was not yet Chief Administrator.


151 posted on 01/26/2010 2:53:55 PM PST by Mik Taerg
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