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ASK TEA PARTY ABOUT THE BIRTH CERTIFICATE ( Rev. Manning video )
ATLAH ^ | 1/22/10 | James D. Manning

Posted on 01/23/2010 3:46:20 AM PST by sushiman

Tea party turning a blind eye re: birth certificate , treason and constitution . The birth certificate is a non-issue ??? Is there no right and wrong any longer ? Can't pick and choose which laws to obey and ignore ? What will the Tea Party ignore next ?


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KEYWORDS: atlah; birthers; certifigate; ineligible; jamesmanning; manning; obama; revmanning; soetoro
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1 posted on 01/23/2010 3:46:21 AM PST by sushiman
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To: PhiKapMom; steelyourfaith; Freedom'sWorthIt; Lilyjuslan; Dinah Lord; lonestar; strongbow; ...

Wake up America ping !


2 posted on 01/23/2010 3:47:38 AM PST by sushiman
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To: sushiman

Don’t get distracted from the substance of what matters.
This is about what 0bama is doing to our country, not about a fanciful wild goose chase that will lead us nowhere.


3 posted on 01/23/2010 3:49:04 AM PST by counterpunch (In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem. Government is the problem.)
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To: sushiman
The problem is there is not enough solid evidence. This is why Ken Starr never really went after Bill and Hillary.

Besides it's too late. All this stuff should have been brought up before the election. Nobody is going to look at the scant evidence except those who care. Get something rock solid and then people may change their mind.

4 posted on 01/23/2010 3:58:49 AM PST by sirchtruth (Freedom is not free)
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To: counterpunch
Don’t get distracted from the substance of what matters.This is about what 0bama is doing to our country, not about a fanciful wild goose chase that will lead us nowhere.

We are nowhere without the Constitution if demanding BO/BS prove he is a natural born citizen per the Constitutional requirement in Article 2 Section 1 is considered nothing more than a distraction.

The Constitution is the legal foundation. It us the rule of law in our country. We will have no rule of law if the people reduce it to nothing more than an afterthought and do not demand it be obeyed.
5 posted on 01/23/2010 4:08:15 AM PST by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it! www.FairTaxNation.com)
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To: sirchtruth
The problem is there is not enough solid evidence.

I don't know how you define solid evidence but there is ample documentation affirming BO/BS is not a natural born citizen.

Besides it's too late.

It's never too late for demanding the Constitution to be obeyed. It's only too late when the people obfuscate their responsibility to uphold the Constitution. At that point then we will have succumbed to those who seek to destroy the Constitution.
6 posted on 01/23/2010 4:14:11 AM PST by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it! www.FairTaxNation.com)
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To: sushiman

I love listening to Rev Manning — he is a straight-shooter and a brilliantly articulate orator. Unlike Zero, The Reverend has something worthwhile to say.

What a pity he won’t run for office. America needs somebody like him in the Oval Office.

I’ve noticed a couple times in his videos he has called Zero a “long-legged mack-daddy” and from his tone it is plain that it is not meant as a compliment.

The “long-legged” part I can figure out, but can someone explain to me what a “mack-daddy” is, and how that applies to Zero?


7 posted on 01/23/2010 4:24:25 AM PST by DieHard the Hunter (Is mise an ceann-cinnidh. Cha ghéill mi do dhuine. Fàg am bealach.)
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To: sushiman
Nothing on Earth is perfect, Pastor Manning, but why don't you get involved with us, and help us steer the Tea Party Movement in the right direction?

You aren't helping anyone this way, you are just spreading confusion and doubt!

I hate to say this, I have great respect for you, but I just can't agree with you this time.

8 posted on 01/23/2010 4:37:29 AM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (THE SECOND AMENDMENT, A MATTER OF FACT, NOT A MATTER OF OPINION)
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To: Man50D
It's never too late for demanding the Constitution to be obeyed.

ANY ACTION against FUHRER OBAMA, has to start in CONGRESS. With almost super majorities in BOTH PARTIES... the action you request is just ...

NOT GOING TO HAPPEN. Just get more firearms and more ammo.. that you can count on ... and MAY NEED!!!

9 posted on 01/23/2010 4:37:38 AM PST by gwilhelm56 (OBAMA ... Orwell's 1984 was a WARNING ... NOT a TEXTBOOK!!!)
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To: DieHard the Hunter

I think a mack-daddy is a pimp.


10 posted on 01/23/2010 4:44:14 AM PST by henry_reardon
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To: Man50D
I don't know how you define solid evidence but there is ample documentation affirming BO/BS is not a natural born citizen.

Before I make this statement let me make known I believe 'something' is amiss. However, there is not ample evidence anywhere to suggest Obama is not a NBC! It's all sketchy evidence.

Solid evidence is a doctor or nurse coming out saying I witnessed this birth. And even that is suspect unless you have two or three backing them up. At this point it's a waste of perusing this without a concrete testament where everyone knows the evidence is real.

11 posted on 01/23/2010 4:48:51 AM PST by sirchtruth (Freedom is not free)
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To: gwilhelm56
ANY ACTION against FUHRER OBAMA, has to start in CONGRESS.

I suggest you read the Constitution. The body of the Constitution was enacted in 1789 and details the powers of the three branches of government. The Bill of Right was enacted in 1791 for the purpose detailing the powers granted to the people. The concept of the grand jury is mentioned only in the 5th Amendment. It is not mentioned in the body of the Constitution. The founding fathers did this purposely to give only the people the power of the grand jury to provide a check and balance against a corrupt, runaway government.

It is with this Constitutional power grand juries have served presentments in courthouses, FBI offices and to politicians throughout the country. Continuing to do so will increase the pressure for the three branches of government to abide by the Constitution.

NOT GOING TO HAPPEN. Just get more firearms and more ammo.. that you can count on ... and MAY NEED!!!

Many people also believed Congress wasn't listening to all the marches, phone calls, emails and faxes but the unconstitutional health care bill(s) still haven't passed. Congress critters didn't suddenly change their minds out of the goodness of their hearts. They have felt incredible pressure from the people for months and know it will only get worse if they proceed. Why are you waiting if you're convinced the rule of law no longer exists? Why aren't you lashing out right now with guns ablazing?? Who are you going to shoot? Why bother voting?
12 posted on 01/23/2010 5:07:51 AM PST by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it! www.FairTaxNation.com)
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To: Man50D

Sir ... you are basing your assumptions that the DEMOCRATS are going to FOLLOW the CONSTITUTION... I HAVE a better chance believing in the TOOTHFAIRY.

We will agree to disagree, and anyfurther communications will be marked as abuse... thank you for your time and goodbye


13 posted on 01/23/2010 5:21:35 AM PST by gwilhelm56 (OBAMA ... Orwell's 1984 was a WARNING ... NOT a TEXTBOOK!!!)
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To: sushiman

Citizens fighting against Obama birth certificate include America’s Grand Jury. Anybody know how that is going?


14 posted on 01/23/2010 5:34:53 AM PST by circumbendibus (Obama is an unconstitutional illegal putative president. Quo Warranto in 2010)
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To: sirchtruth
However, there is not ample evidence anywhere to suggest Obama is not a NBC! It's all sketchy evidence.

On the contrary. There is ample documentation. You just haven't bothered to take the time to do the necessary research. Below is certified copy BO/BS's Kenyan birth certificate signed by the attending physician.



Solid evidence is a doctor or nurse coming out saying I witnessed this birth. At this point it's a waste of perusing this without a concrete testament where everyone knows the evidence is real.

Are you claiming documentation signed by a witness or witnesses is not solid evidence?
15 posted on 01/23/2010 5:48:25 AM PST by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it! www.FairTaxNation.com)
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To: gwilhelm56
“We will agree to disagree, and any further communications will be marked as abuse...”

I love your tag-line, share your anger, and have increased my ammo stash tenfold, but your post was kinda harsh. The other guy made some great points...our voices HAVE started to make a difference. We just can't EVER get complacent again. We should use our voices first...failing that, we're ready to defend our freedoms by any means necessary. Remember, we conservatives are in this together.

17 posted on 01/23/2010 5:57:20 AM PST by Mich Patriot
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To: Mich Patriot

I refuse to side with SOCALLED Conservatives who sound like RON PAUL Wannabees, whining about something they have no control over and as long as LIBS are in Charge, this BIRTHER BS is nothing but a bunch of WHINERS.

If They are Conservatives.. I’ll renounce my membership


19 posted on 01/23/2010 6:03:48 AM PST by gwilhelm56 (OBAMA ... Orwell's 1984 was a WARNING ... NOT a TEXTBOOK!!!)
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To: gwilhelm56; Man50D

Both of you, knock it off


20 posted on 01/23/2010 6:04:25 AM PST by Admin Moderator
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To: gwilhelm56
NO YOU STUPID MORON...

I am saying.. as long as LIBERALS ARE RUNNING THINGS,... You are WASTING YOUR TIME.. DEMS don’t GIVARATSASS about the CONSTITUTION


Oh I see! You believe in the Constitution but aren't willing to uphold and defend it against those who seek to destroy it.
21 posted on 01/23/2010 6:04:50 AM PST by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it! www.FairTaxNation.com)
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To: gwilhelm56
and anyfurther communications will be marked as abuse


22 posted on 01/23/2010 6:05:09 AM PST by humblegunner
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To: humblegunner

Who’s the baby...your new BUTT BUDDY?? Did the little boy in the ARMY COSTUME get too OLD FOR YOU???


23 posted on 01/23/2010 6:08:48 AM PST by gwilhelm56 (OBAMA ... Orwell's 1984 was a WARNING ... NOT a TEXTBOOK!!!)
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To: counterpunch; sirchtruth

Fanciful? Abiding by the Constitution is fanciful?

A drunk kills a family of five and speeds off. Why bother arresting him now. It’s just a fanciful wild goose chase. Besides it’s too late for the family. All this drinking stuff should have been brought up before he got into the car.


24 posted on 01/23/2010 6:11:19 AM PST by bgill (The framers of the US Constitution established an entire federal government in 18 pages.)
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Why focus on a pointless, uphill battle that will get us nowhere at best instead of how 0bama is actively destroying the country RIGHT NOW with his legislative agenda?

You seem to be very misguided and your own worst enemy.


26 posted on 01/23/2010 6:16:10 AM PST by counterpunch (In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem. Government is the problem.)
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To: Man50D; All

“Are you claiming documentation signed by a witness or witnesses is not solid evidence? “

Where has this document been presented as proof of Obama’s place of birth and is there an established chain of custody for it? If this is an authentic documment it could easily be traced back to it origin, has that been done?

It seems that most people are dancing around the critical point here. What are the implementing instructions for verifying proof of eligibly (for the party as well as each state), who is responsible for ensuring they are complied with, and what documented proof is there that this was actually done.

As for those who insist that this is a diversion and there are more important issues to deal with I will say... if we don’t ensure the integrity of our elections everything else is irrelevant.


27 posted on 01/23/2010 6:17:50 AM PST by Peter Horry (Those who aren't responsible always know best.)
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To: Man50D

I stand by every word... you may not be a PAUL supporter...but damn son.. you SURE SOUND LIKE ONE!!!


28 posted on 01/23/2010 6:22:52 AM PST by gwilhelm56 (OBAMA ... Orwell's 1984 was a WARNING ... NOT a TEXTBOOK!!!)
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To: gwilhelm56

Do you still label your Peewee Herman videos as “erotica”?


29 posted on 01/23/2010 6:23:35 AM PST by humblegunner
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Both of you, knock it off

Knock off what? All my comments in this thread have only referred to the Constitution and/or provided facts to buttress my claims and devoid of any invectives.
30 posted on 01/23/2010 6:25:43 AM PST by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it! www.FairTaxNation.com)
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To: Peter Horry
“Where has this document been presented as proof of Obama’s place of birth and is there an established chain of custody for it? If this is an authentic documment it could easily be traced back to it origin, has that been done? “

The signature by the attending physician is the proof! Additionally, below is the affidavit regarding BO's/BS's Kenyan birth certificate that declares Lucas Smith to be of sound mind and judgment. Lucas can go to jail if he lied on this affidavit.



31 posted on 01/23/2010 6:32:20 AM PST by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it! www.FairTaxNation.com)
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To: Man50D

Necessarily preemptive

Again, knock it off


32 posted on 01/23/2010 6:35:45 AM PST by Sidebar Moderator
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To: gwilhelm56
I stand by every word... you may not be a PAUL supporter...but damn son.. you SURE SOUND LIKE ONE!!!

How you equate my comments regarding the Constitution or documentation provided in my above replies as being a Ron Paul supporter defies logic.
33 posted on 01/23/2010 6:39:17 AM PST by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it! www.FairTaxNation.com)
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You were rescued?

Last I heard, you had fallen off a boat somewhere.


34 posted on 01/23/2010 6:40:14 AM PST by humblegunner
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To: Man50D

I ask again, where has this document been presented as proof, how has it been authenticated. If it is real it can be traced directly back to the source. The Hawaiian authority could say “this document is the same as the one on fill” instead of doing a little song and dance.

Until then this copy is not worth the pixels necessary to create it.


35 posted on 01/23/2010 6:42:32 AM PST by Peter Horry (Those who aren't responsible always know best.)
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To: Man50D

Isn’t it interesting that recently several on FR are becoming enraged demanding the BC issue be ignored. Some things make you go hmmmm.


36 posted on 01/23/2010 6:58:46 AM PST by bgill (The framers of the US Constitution established an entire federal government in 18 pages.)
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To: humblegunner

Actually it was “overboard”, not “fallen off.”

Yes, I was rescued.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2431834/posts?page=301#301


37 posted on 01/23/2010 6:59:09 AM PST by Sidebar Moderator
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To: sushiman

Where is the funding from the Tea Party Movement coming from? I am curious about the money supply.


38 posted on 01/23/2010 7:03:47 AM PST by ColdSteelTalon (Light is fading to shadow, and casting its shroud over all we have known...)
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To: sickoflibs; stephenjohnbanker; mkjessup

ping


39 posted on 01/23/2010 9:44:04 AM PST by genetic homophobe
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To: sushiman

Every tea party rally is full of birthers.


40 posted on 01/23/2010 9:45:40 AM PST by AmericanVictory (Should we be more like them or they more like we used to be?)
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To: genetic homophobe; rabscuttle385; stephenjohnbanker; mkjessup

Rev Manning is lots of fun sometimes but he hasn’t earn the right to wipe Dick Armey’s spit off his face. Dick Armey is leading a ‘conservative-reduce government power’ movement as he did SUCCESSFULLY against Clinton and the Democrat congress in 1994.

Manning hasn’t proved sh.. about Obama’s birth-place and Armey was wise to not tag the tea party movement as a bunch of nutbags. Ann Coulter called the birth-certificaters nuts too, hardly a PCer.


41 posted on 01/23/2010 10:08:30 AM PST by sickoflibs ( "It's not the taxes, the redistribution is spending you demand stupid")
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To: Peter Horry
I ask again, where has this document been presented as proof, how has it been authenticated.

It has been authenticated in the affidavit in reply #31! The answer is there if you took the time to actually read.

Note the paragraph #3: I have personal knowledge of all the facts and circumstances described herein below in this declaration and will testify in open court to the same.

Note paragraphs 4-9 that detail his visit to the hospital in Kenya where BO/BS was born, that the document was on file in that hospital, paid cash for a copy of the document with an embossed seal and was signed by the hospital administrator.

The Hawaiian authority could say “this document is the same as the one on fill” instead of doing a little song and dance.

Then the Hawaii Department of Health would be producing a document confirming BO/BS was not born in the U.S!

Given your so adamant to defend BO/BS, then why don't produce documentation confirming he was born in the U.S.?
42 posted on 01/23/2010 1:12:15 PM PST by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it! www.FairTaxNation.com)
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To: Man50D

“Given your so adamant to defend BO/BS, then why don’t produce documentation confirming he was born in the U.S.?”

You have problems with reading comprehension, logic or both and have failed to recognize or respond to my point.

This won’t and can’t be resolved by a kabuki dance on the Internet. The political parties and state election officials should have ensured the eligibility of the candidates, that doesn’t appear to have happened, Congress and the courts were then the next step in resolving this, that too has not happened.

I believe the people who should be asking questions are afraid of the answers, hope this helps you to better understand my position.


43 posted on 01/23/2010 1:41:17 PM PST by Peter Horry (Those who aren't responsible always know best.)
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To: gwilhelm56
Dude....you might want to back off on the caffeine a little...


44 posted on 01/23/2010 2:24:03 PM PST by Allegra (It doesn't matter what this tagline says...the liberals are going to call it "racist.")
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

The Rev WAS involved with the Tea Party and was scheduled to speak at the big protest rally in Washington but at the last minute the Tea Party kicked him to the curb and cancelled his speech . Why ? For dubious reasons . The truth is they didn’t want him bringing up the ineligibility issue . Manning attended the rally anyway . He now wants nothing more to do with them .


45 posted on 01/23/2010 3:10:49 PM PST by sushiman
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To: sirchtruth
All this stuff should have been brought up before the election.

It was. Folks like you ignored it.

46 posted on 01/23/2010 3:12:34 PM PST by EternalVigilance (With God, Obama can't hurt us. Without God, George Washington couldn't save us.)
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To: Peter Horry
The political parties and state election officials should have ensured the eligibility of the candidates, that doesn’t appear to have happened, Congress and the courts were then the next step in resolving this, that too has not happened.

Your point fails to recognize my earlier point concerning the American people having the power of the grand jury per the 5th Amendment.
47 posted on 01/23/2010 4:04:12 PM PST by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it! www.FairTaxNation.com)
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To: sushiman

bump


48 posted on 01/23/2010 7:51:55 PM PST by tutstar (Baptist Ping list - freepmail me to get on or off.)
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To: Man50D
Find the doctors who signed this "document" and I'll be glad to call it sufficient evidence.

...And where did this document come from? How did you get a it?

49 posted on 01/24/2010 7:06:26 AM PST by sirchtruth (Freedom is not free)
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To: EternalVigilance
It was. Folks like you ignored it.

LOL! There have been no less than 5 court cases all brought about this. Everyone has been rejected because of insufficient evidence. What do you want do?

50 posted on 01/24/2010 7:09:37 AM PST by sirchtruth (Freedom is not free)
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