[GonzoGOP]

Actually the best place to be, bar none, would be the big island of Hawaii. You have cattle, farms, even coffee and rum. It has plentiful rainfall, no cities, can easily cut itself off from the rest of the world. It also is one of the only places where solar makes sense, at least on the half of the island where it isn't always raining. And there is always geothermal. Oahu is going to fly apart like a jet turbine ingesting an anvil, but the big island should come out of any collapse quite nicely.

[OB1kNOb]

Living in paradise during a SHTF or TEOTWAWKI scenario? Now, that just ain’t right! Ya gotta be willing to suffer just a little. No fair! ;-)

[doorgunner69]

Ssshhh, keep it quiet!

I am about a year away from moving to the BI, from the most crowded one. What you write is quite true, just need to hold on for a bit longer to retire, sell house, and move.

Had to laugh at the suggestion that Hawaii is so gun-restrictive. It is not. You do need to register, but the restrictions are limited to pistol magazine size. Own as many as you want. The widely reported AR magazine size restriction is also widely ignored. Go to the Koko Head range some Sunday, and count the AR's with 20-30 rd magazines. Cops don't care.

My personal rifle would not be legal in Calif. at all: a DPMS LR-308, with 6 legal 20 rd magazine, compensator, collapsible stock, etc. Restrictive my ass............