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Pit Bull Attacks, Kills 65-year-old Woman
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Posted on 03/04/2010 8:31:42 PM PST by Chet 99

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To: Spike Knotts

Brutal reply.

Liked it.


61 posted on 03/05/2010 3:16:14 PM PST by Salamander (....and I'm sure I need some rest but sleepin' don't come very easy in a straight white vest.......)
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To: Darnright

Funny you’d post that.

Odin just got his daily, raw bloody steak.

For an inherently sharp, very dominant Euro Dobe, “behaving himself” when surrounded by 5 other dogs *also* wanting the steak is very difficult.

To “earn” his steak, he must not only *not* show aggression/posessiveness to the other dogs, he must sit/give paw/lie down no less than -3- times and *then* he is ~allowed~ to *gently* take the steak and go eat it with no hint of bad manners on his part.

He did very well today except when he got done and only the center bone was left.

He’d finished with it, didn’t really want it, dropped it on the floor and one of the other dogs picked it up which caused him to get ‘snippy’.

I took the bone from him his mouth in a very intentional manner and pointedly handed it to the other dog, right in front of his face.

He was not allowed to take it back or get upset about it.

Neither the steak or the bone are “his right”; they are his privilege.

At breakfast and supper time, the dogs’ bowls are set down randomly, in no particular order.

They eat when and where I give it to them and no one is allowed to molest another dog’s meal.

If they break my “commandments”, they find themselves without their bowl until they “get their mind right”.

To my dogs, I am God.

~I~ giveth and ~I~ taketh away.

Period.

I practice “positive reinforcement”.

There are no “punishments” for bad behavior; there are only rewards for good behavior and the -absence- of reward [or attention] for bad behavior.

For dogs who desperately desire their master’s loving, *happy* attention, simply being ignored drives the point home very quickly.

With any breed considered “aggressive”, aggressive treatment only breeds more aggression in the dog and they
-will- learn to suppress the overt, normal signals such as “warning growls” and go right to a bite if they have been “punished” for growling.

Rewards for right behavior are far more effective _in the long run_ than punishments for wrong behavior.

Do well and you get what you desire.
Act like a kook and you don’t.

Very simple.


62 posted on 03/05/2010 3:50:38 PM PST by Salamander (....and I'm sure I need some rest but sleepin' don't come very easy in a straight white vest.......)
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To: Salamander

>There are no “punishments” for bad behavior; there are only rewards for good behavior and the -absence- of reward [or attention] for bad behavior.

For dogs who desperately desire their master’s loving, *happy* attention, simply being ignored drives the point home very quickly.

With any breed considered “aggressive”, aggressive treatment only breeds more aggression in the dog and they
-will- learn to suppress the overt, normal signals such as “warning growls” and go right to a bite if they have been “punished” for growling.<

A friend of mine has a very effective method for curing a dog that barks and screeches in its crate after the family has gone to bed. She gets up, takes the nail clippers she keeps at the ready, and proceeds to clip a couple of toenails attached to the offending dog. She then puts said big mouth back to bed, and she shuts of the lights and retires herself.

The dog gets the message loud and clear that nighttime is for sleeping.


63 posted on 03/05/2010 4:06:05 PM PST by Darnright (There can never be a complete confidence in a power which is excessive. - Tacitus)
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To: solosmoke
Why not just post every attack by every dog?

And why focus so much on Obama? He's not the only socialist out there trying to gut the constitution!

Entirely true. But he is currently the most dangerous one.

Post away. Fill those gaps.

64 posted on 03/05/2010 6:00:54 PM PST by 70times7 (Serving Free Republics' warped and obscure humor needs since 1999!)
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To: Darnright

OMG....she is such a devious genius!....LOL!


65 posted on 03/05/2010 7:58:52 PM PST by Salamander (....and I'm sure I need some rest but sleepin' don't come very easy in a straight white vest.......)
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To: Wicket

Did you know is beloved dog “Daddy” just passed away?

He was 16 years old.

Milan is heartbroken.


66 posted on 03/05/2010 8:01:20 PM PST by Salamander (....and I'm sure I need some rest but sleepin' don't come very easy in a straight white vest.......)
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To: green pastures

As a kid I grew up next door to people who had a GSD named “Bozo”.

He was always chained, barking and growling and everyone was afraid of him.

I think I was about 11 when I went over to where he was chained and he instantly sat down, shut up and let me pet him.

That was when I saw that the chain “collar” he’d worn all those years was virtually invisible, the skin having grown almost completely over it.

No wonder he raged all the time.

His “owner” just had her brother come over and cut the collar out himself.

It was horrible.

After he healed up and got a new collar, he never barked or snarled again.


67 posted on 03/05/2010 8:10:02 PM PST by Salamander (....and I'm sure I need some rest but sleepin' don't come very easy in a straight white vest.......)
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Kill them all. Every last single one of them. I get so tired of the Pit Bull apologists. It’s the DAMN DOG, AND THE OWNER. SHOOT ONE, AND PUT THE OTHER IN JAIL.


68 posted on 03/05/2010 8:13:44 PM PST by ar15cz75
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To: ar15cz75; shibumi; Darnright; Slings and Arrows; Markos33

You’re absolutely right!

Let’s start with these monsters, first!

http://www.forpitssake.org/sar.html

Then we’ll take these outlaws down

http://www.lawdogsusa.org/home.html

http://www.pitbullsontheweb.com/petbull/articles/popsicle.html

We need to strike soon before these vicious beasts find another lost child, sniff out another soldier-killing bomb or alert their handlers to illegal drugs and explosives!

Evil, EVIL dogs!

http://hubpages.com/hub/Dog-Attacks-and-Aggression


69 posted on 03/05/2010 9:40:57 PM PST by Salamander (....and I'm sure I need some rest but sleepin' don't come very easy in a straight white vest.......)
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To: GSP.FAN

I sent Chet a pit bull story yesterday but he didn’t post it. It doesn’t matter to me. He seems on a mission. Just don’t buy or adopt a pit bull if you don’t want one.


70 posted on 03/05/2010 9:53:45 PM PST by Bronzy
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To: 70times7

Right, nevermind logic. Forget what the experts say, let’s all just remain blissfully ignorant, that way we look like complete morons when we put laws in place that have failed everywhere else. Who cares, right? It’s only about 30 people a year that die, so as long as they aren’t being killed by pit bulls, I feel so much safer.

Just keep on believing whatever those journalism grads say. After all, it must be true because they say it with a well-learned authoritative tone.


71 posted on 03/05/2010 10:11:10 PM PST by solosmoke
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To: Salamander

Yes, I did.

I have always been a little scared of pit bulls and as an insurance person, we avoid them if we can. But Daddy was a great dog and a wonderful ambassador for the breed. It makes me sad that he is gone.


72 posted on 03/05/2010 10:11:19 PM PST by Wicket (God bless and protect our troops and God bless America)
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To: Wicket

I watched an episode tonight and Daddy was still alive but stiff and limping.

I had no idea he was that old.

Bless his heart, that dog was unflappable not matter what the other people’s dogs did to him.

He just stayed calm as could be.

It’s going to be weird and sad watching the show now, without him.

RIP, Big Daddy.


73 posted on 03/06/2010 2:29:53 AM PST by Salamander (....and I'm sure I need some rest but sleepin' don't come very easy in a straight white vest.......)
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To: Bronzy

>I sent Chet a pit bull story yesterday but he didn’t post it. It doesn’t matter to me. He seems on a mission. Just don’t buy or adopt a pit bull if you don’t want one.<

But, if you want to adopt any big breed of dog, you must commit to spay/neutering, socializing and training the dog. Then, you must not (that means never) let the dog roam free, and you must be willing to set limits for the dog.

If you take responsibility for your dog, you will never end up in one of these horrid threads.


74 posted on 03/06/2010 7:09:50 AM PST by Darnright (There can never be a complete confidence in a power which is excessive. - Tacitus)
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To: Salamander; Wicket

>Did you know is beloved dog “Daddy” just passed away?<

Poor Cesar. The love and bond between him and that wonderful dog was so strong. You’re right, his show just won’t be the same.


75 posted on 03/06/2010 7:14:19 AM PST by Darnright (There can never be a complete confidence in a power which is excessive. - Tacitus)
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To: Darnright
Absolutely agree. I've owned a German Shepherd and a Doberman Pincher but not a Pit Bull. It is really too bad for the Pits because shelters are full of non adoptable Pit Bull dogs. The Pits are worn on leashes like bling around a neck in some areas of the city here.
76 posted on 03/06/2010 7:45:04 AM PST by Bronzy
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To: Bronzy

>The Pits are worn on leashes like bling around a neck in some areas of the city here. <

Yes they are. And the dogs pay for the owners’ attitude toward dog ownership with their lives all too often. The humans then simply get another dog, which they treat the exact same way.


77 posted on 03/06/2010 11:14:10 AM PST by Darnright (There can never be a complete confidence in a power which is excessive. - Tacitus)
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To: Darnright

Daddy’s page:

http://www.cesarsway.com/taxonomy/term/186

Daddy was undergoing cancer treatments but wasn’t going to make it.

Supposedly, Cesar is building something like a shrine or temple for Daddy.

It’s heartbreaking.


78 posted on 03/06/2010 12:12:57 PM PST by Salamander (....and I'm sure I need some rest but sleepin' don't come very easy in a straight white vest.......)
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To: Wicket

Feel free to pick any other breed of dog and see if your statement still makes sense to you.<<<<<<

Sorry, but although I think feeding in front of any group of dogs is insane unless they are properly trained to wait until they are supposed to eat, many would not break a chain to try and attack the bearer of the food.


79 posted on 03/06/2010 8:25:01 PM PST by Mjaye
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To: Mjaye

Many dogs would not break a chain to attack someone. Many dogs would not be on a chain in the first place if they were already trained by a responsible owner. Why is it that the chaining of dogs is overlooked in tragedies like this? Obviously the dog was on a chain because they felt it needed to be, which is part of the problem. If you can’t train your dog to be obedient and calm around people, then what is it there for?

This dog was chained up around other dogs in a new environment, and was apparently not trusted, or it would have been inside where pets belong. A new environment combined with stressors like competition and restraint, in addition to elderly caretakers was not the best idea. These details matter, as many people studying dog bite fatalities have mentioned time and time again.


80 posted on 03/07/2010 1:38:43 PM PST by solosmoke
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