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Leader Hoyer: Vote Process Announced

Posted on 03/20/2010 1:08:02 PM PDT by daniel885

1. Debate reconciliation bill (the bill that amends the health care "law" -- which as of the time they debate and vote won't yet be law) *2 hour debate

2. Vote on reconciliation bill.

3. Then vote on Senate health bill without debate.


TOPICS: Health/Medicine
KEYWORDS: 111th; bhohealthcare; congress; deathpanels; deemandpass; demonpass; demonpath; hoyer; obama; obamacare; reparationrx; romney; romneycare; socializedmedicine
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1 posted on 03/20/2010 1:08:03 PM PDT by daniel885
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To: daniel885

(And I noticed I misspelled announced... if a mod could fix I would appreciate)


2 posted on 03/20/2010 1:09:11 PM PDT by daniel885
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To: daniel885
"Amend first, pass law later."

"We wanted to make the process absolutely clear."


3 posted on 03/20/2010 1:10:54 PM PDT by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: daniel885

If they don’t have the votes, there will be no vote.


4 posted on 03/20/2010 1:10:54 PM PDT by Perdogg ("Is that a bomb in your pants, or are you excited to come to America?")
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To: Perdogg

I believe they are doing these things in reverse order to try to sway votes, I’m betting they still don’t have them.


5 posted on 03/20/2010 1:13:24 PM PDT by pnut22
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To: Perdogg

Maybe they have the votes. I guess we’ll find out tomorrow how things play out.


7 posted on 03/20/2010 1:13:40 PM PDT by daniel885
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To: daniel885

Did he explain who is going to provide health care if clinicians stay home?


8 posted on 03/20/2010 1:14:31 PM PDT by seton89 (Use Amendment X as your email signature)
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To: Perdogg
Untrue .
Ryan already stated the Dem strategy was to force the vote no matter what.

The rules committee was pure chaos today.

The Dems were pinned against the wall today with dems yelling we don't want the direct vote on c span camera.

9 posted on 03/20/2010 1:15:04 PM PDT by ncalburt (e)
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To: ncalburt

Is it legal to even vote on reconciling a bill that hasnt even passed yet. That is wrong/ There voting on something that doesnt exist yet. Senate bill should go first. Scream at the moon!!!!!!! Call the lawyers!!!!


10 posted on 03/20/2010 1:21:03 PM PDT by GoCards ("We eat therefore we hunt...")
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To: seton89

Did he explain who is going to provide health care if clinicians stay home?

Yes your local 7-11 clerk


11 posted on 03/20/2010 1:21:13 PM PDT by BubbaJunebug (s)
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To: daniel885

the dems lost votes in the rule committee meeting today and they abandoned ship on the option after Dems were planning to vote against the measure . that evil slaughter was in shock. why do you think obama went running up to hill . the votes are unknown now.


12 posted on 03/20/2010 1:21:44 PM PDT by ncalburt (e)
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To: GoCards

Never heard of using reconciliation for something that isnt already law.


13 posted on 03/20/2010 1:21:48 PM PDT by freespirited (We're not the Party of No. We're the Party of HELL NO!!!)
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To: freespirited

exactly! Its wrong and underhanded. Just as bad as demonpass in my book


14 posted on 03/20/2010 1:22:42 PM PDT by GoCards ("We eat therefore we hunt...")
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To: BubbaJunebug

I might be feeling a little punky Mon AM.

I’m thinking about cancelling office hours.

Dr. Obama can take my calls.


15 posted on 03/20/2010 1:29:37 PM PDT by seton89 (Use Amendment X as your email signature)
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To: daniel885

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16 posted on 03/20/2010 1:33:33 PM PDT by Rome2000 (OBAMA IS A COMMUNIST CRYPTO-MUSLIM)
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To: GoCards

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* Michael Honda (CA-15, San Jose)
* Sam Farr (CA-17, Monterey)
* Henry Waxman (CA-30, Los Angeles) - Chairman, House Energy and Commerce Committee
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* Diane Watson (CA-33, Los Angeles)
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* Corrine Brown (FL-3, Jacksonville)
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* John Hall (NY-19, Dover Plains)
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* Major Owens (NY-11) - Retired from Congress
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* Hilda Solis (CA-32) - Became Secretary of Labor in 2009
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17 posted on 03/20/2010 1:34:35 PM PDT by Rome2000 (OBAMA IS A COMMUNIST CRYPTO-MUSLIM)
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18 posted on 03/20/2010 1:36:57 PM PDT by Rome2000 (OBAMA IS A COMMUNIST CRYPTO-MUSLIM)
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To: daniel885; All

I am unclear as to how a bill can be passed amending another bill and subsequently the other bill is passed unamended. The whole charade is a bad faith exercise. If the amendments are passed prior to the senate bill being passed, there is no legitimate claim to having passed the senate bill unamended.


19 posted on 03/20/2010 1:40:26 PM PDT by johncocktoasten (Practicing asymetrical thread warfare against anti-Palin Trolls)
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To: ncalburt

Well imagine that! The rats are getting some light shown on them for a change. This is high comedy for God and the world to see!


20 posted on 03/20/2010 1:55:45 PM PDT by Sunshine Sister
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