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U.K. Teen Dies in Blast After Cigarette Sparks Hair Bleach
FoxNews.com ^ | March 25, 2010 | FoxNews.com

Posted on 03/25/2010 4:19:16 PM PDT by GovernmentShrinker

... A British hairdresser died after her cigarette ignited a leaking bottle of hydrogen peroxide bleach which then blew up in her car as she drove along a quiet country lane ... "We want to warn people how volatile hydrogen peroxide is, even if it is kept in the boot of a car. Jennie’s friends have all said they carry it," added her mother Pauline Mitchell.

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This sounds implausible to me. Highly concentrated hydrogen peroxide is a favorite explosives ingredient of terrorists, but I have a lot of trouble believing that the quantities and concentrations of hydrogen peroxide that a teenage hairdresser would have any legitimate business carrying around in her car, could cause an explosion of this magnitude. Hydrogen peroxide-based hair bleaches are sold in drugstores everywhere for home use, and stored/used in cramped little hair salons everywhere -- you'd think there would have been a serious explosion long before now if they were capable of this.

Any FReepers with serious knowledge of explosives chemistry care to weigh in?

1 posted on 03/25/2010 4:19:16 PM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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To: GovernmentShrinker

Smoking kills.


2 posted on 03/25/2010 4:20:29 PM PDT by Choose Ye This Day (If we will not be governed by God, we must be governed by tyrants. -- William Penn)
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To: GovernmentShrinker

Was her name Mohammedette?


3 posted on 03/25/2010 4:22:02 PM PDT by rickmichaels
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To: mhking

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Just D-mn!


4 posted on 03/25/2010 4:22:45 PM PDT by Touch Not the Cat (Where is the light? Wonder if it's weeping somewhere...)
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To: GovernmentShrinker

What most of us think about hydrogen peroxide comes in a bottle and is something like .01% hydrogen peroxide.


5 posted on 03/25/2010 4:23:44 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: GovernmentShrinker
Not a lot of detail so it's hard to know what happened. I see two basic scenarios:

1) The Hydrogen Peroxide ignites in a massive ball of flames which is seen for miles and which results in instant death for the young woman. (This seems implausible.

2) The smoker is startled by the sudden experience of some flames coming from her back seat. As she turns around to deal with these pesky flames, she drives into an oak tree, resulting in her death.

One never knows.

6 posted on 03/25/2010 4:25:05 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (I do not want the Union to be maintained. I want the US to break up. I support secession.)
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To: GovernmentShrinker
"but I have a lot of trouble believing that the quantities and concentrations of hydrogen peroxide that a teenage hairdresser would have any legitimate business carrying around in her car"

You have a point. OTOH, the peroxide concentrations found in professional hair salons, can be VERY explosive. The concentration of peroxide found in these professional supplies is MUCH greater than what is available OTC, here in the states.

In fact, I believe to purchase such supplies here, one needs a cosmetology license, and I also think records of purchases are also kept for the sales of these products. I don't know what the law is in the UK.

7 posted on 03/25/2010 4:25:14 PM PDT by OldDeckHand (USA - b. July 4, 1776 / d. March 21, 2010)
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To: cripplecreek

Just checked - over the counter is 3% hydrogen peroxide. I would think that hairdressers would have the ability to buy much higher concentrations.


8 posted on 03/25/2010 4:25:52 PM PDT by Deagle
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To: rickmichaels

No, her name was Jennie Mitchell, but I’d be interested to know if she’s got a boyfriend with a Muslim name.


9 posted on 03/25/2010 4:26:07 PM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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To: GovernmentShrinker
Oops, I meant...

"the peroxide concentrations found in professional hair supplies"

10 posted on 03/25/2010 4:26:36 PM PDT by OldDeckHand (USA - b. July 4, 1776 / d. March 21, 2010)
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To: GovernmentShrinker

Was she a real blond?


11 posted on 03/25/2010 4:28:46 PM PDT by Spok (Free Range Republican)
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To: GovernmentShrinker; All
More detailed UK article from the Daily Mail, Lots of reader comments and a few photos
12 posted on 03/25/2010 4:29:01 PM PDT by kaylar (It's MARTIAL law. Not marshal(l) or marital! This has been a spelling PSA. PS Secede not succeed)
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To: GovernmentShrinker

It could be that some hair salons order the concentrated form of H2O2 that is 35% and used in the food industry. The salons making their own diluted formulations with the 35% H2O2


13 posted on 03/25/2010 4:29:26 PM PDT by dennisw (It all comes 'round again --Fairport)
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To: GovernmentShrinker

Dang, that stinks.


14 posted on 03/25/2010 4:29:46 PM PDT by GnuHere
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To: GovernmentShrinker
From the DM article I just posted :

Miss Mitchell worked as a mobile stylist with the Sleek and Chic salon in nearby Blandford, and was engaged to 21-year-old Russell Andrews.

Guess he *could* be a convert with no desire to take on a long moslem name, but it sounds like just another stupid, tragic accident. Poor girl. :-(

15 posted on 03/25/2010 4:30:47 PM PDT by kaylar (It's MARTIAL law. Not marshal(l) or marital! This has been a spelling PSA. PS Secede not succeed)
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To: GovernmentShrinker
This is as bad as another story I read.

Someone put dry ice in a container in the back seat of the car and went on a long trip. The melting dry ice (CO2) depleted the O2 in the car and the driver passed out and died in an auto accident.

Think about what you're doing.

16 posted on 03/25/2010 4:30:59 PM PDT by blam
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To: GovernmentShrinker

More to this than the story is telling.
Before they passed around all the anti smoking laws hair dressers and their customers used to smoke like crazy around this stuff.


17 posted on 03/25/2010 4:31:27 PM PDT by Lera (Government does not solve problems; it subsidizes them. - Ronald Reagan)
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To: ClearCase_guy

re: your number 2:

If, and I still have some issue with this story....

In a hot, sunny car interior, the peroxide may have decomposed in the back seat, releasing free oxygen and creating an oxygen-rich environment inside the car. Then the tip of the ciggie flared up. H2O2 will not decompose to anything flammable, but as we all know, excess oxygen impinging upon an already-ignited something will cause a flare-up of some kind.

Just being a little nitpicky on ya. Same overall result you cited.


18 posted on 03/25/2010 4:32:21 PM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder (Voters who thought their ship came in with 0bama are on their own Titanic.)
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To: GovernmentShrinker
Hydrogen peroxide, either in pure or diluted form, can pose several risks:
19 posted on 03/25/2010 4:33:26 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: dennisw

Hydrogen Peroxide Grades

3% Hydrogen Peroxide (Drug/Grocery Store Variety)
Used as antimicrobial agent for treating wounds and sanitizing agent
[Made from 50% Super D Peroxide, Diluted. Contains stabilizers - phenol, acetanilide, sodium stanate, tetrasodium phosphate among them.]
[This peroxide contains known chemicals do not ingest!]

6% Hydrogen Peroxide
Used by Beauticians for Coloring Hair. Used as sanitizing agent.
Comes in strengths labeled 10,20,40 volume. Must have activator added to be used as a bleach.
[Contains stabilizers, additives, and impurities dependent on manufacturing and dilution process. Do not ingest.]

30% Re-Agent Hydrogen Peroxide
Used in medical research.
[Contains stabilizers, additives, and impurities dependent on manufacturing and dilution process. Do not ingest.]

30-32% Electronic Grade Hydrogen Peroxide
Used for washing transistors and integrated chip parts before assembly.
[Contains stabilizers, additives, and impurities dependent on manufacturing and dilution process. Do not ingest.]

35% Food Grade Hydrogen Peroxide (Also 50% Food Grade H2O2)
[....*....]. Also used to spray inside of foil lined containers for food storage - known as the aseptic packaging system. [...*...additional information removed for FDA compliance]
[Contains stabilizers, additives, and impurities dependent on manufacturing and dilution process.
—e.g. This Food Grade Hyrogen Peroxide is Stabilized using tin based formulations ]

35% Technical Grade Hydrogen Peroxide (Click to Order Now)
Used for waste water treatment and the disinfection of potable water, cosmetics, and laundry applications. [...*...additional information removed for FDA compliance] [May contain a small amount of phosphorus to neutralize any chlorine in the water it is combined with.]
MATERIAL SAFETY DATA SHEET & Technical Details: Hydrogen Peroxide (20 to 40%)

35% Standard Grade Hydrogen Peroxide (Also 50%, 60%, 70% Standard Grades)
Used mainly for bleaching in the pulp and paper industry and in the textile industry; oxidation reactions in the chemical industry; environmental processes (detoxification and deodorization). Used for Waste water treatment.
[Contains stabilizers, additives, and impurities Do not ingest.]

90% Hydrogen Peroxide
Used by the military as a source of Oxygen at Cape Canaveral. Used as a propulsion source in rocket fuel.

99.6% Hydrogen Peroxide
This was first made in 1954 as an experiment to see how pure a hydrogen peroxide could be manufactured.


20 posted on 03/25/2010 4:33:54 PM PDT by dennisw (It all comes 'round again --Fairport)
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