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HI AG denies having information supporting Department Health claim - original Obama vital records
The post email ^ | Mar. 28, 2010 | Sharon Rondeau

Posted on 03/29/2010 7:02:34 AM PDT by opentalk

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To: LucyT; rxsid; BP2; Candor7

ping


41 posted on 03/29/2010 5:20:36 PM PDT by tutstar (Baptist Ping list - freepmail me to get on or ...off.)
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To: Red Steel

You have been right and those trying to p*** on this issue are wrong.

Hmm - haven’t seen too many of them around, lately.


42 posted on 03/29/2010 5:27:12 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Asato Ma Sad Gamaya Tamaso Ma Jyotir Gamaya)
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To: Uncle Chip

I would expect nothing less of you.


Or the Governor, I expect.

It remains true that Obama’s birth records can be subpoenaed.


43 posted on 03/29/2010 6:08:49 PM PDT by jamese777
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To: butterdezillion; MissTickly

Info ping.


44 posted on 03/29/2010 7:04:44 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: ExTexasRedhead

Truth. See http://butterdezillion.wordpress.com/2010/01/11/red-flags-in-hawaii-2/


45 posted on 03/29/2010 7:10:05 PM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: jamese777

I believe a lot of federal funding would go down the tubes if Obama was proven not to be eligible. The executive order Obama signed to provide “opportunities” for Pacific Islanders including Native Hawaiians totally depends on Obama being legit. If he’s not, that whole program goes bye-bye.

I actually believe that is the legal justification for Hawaii withholding records otherwise required to be disclosed. UIPA has a provision saying that if obeying UIPA would jeopardize federal funding UIPA can be ignored.

I think everybody in Hawaii’s government knows Obama was not born there. I told OIP Director Cathy Takase to her face (in writing. lol) that the Factcheck COLB has been acknowledged by the DOH as a forgery - and she STILL claimed that she had no evidence of forgery to report to law enforcement - and she’d have to decide whether to report forgery if the event ever came up.

They know it. They’re screwing with us all.


46 posted on 03/29/2010 7:17:19 PM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: butterdezillion

Good to see you, butterdezillion! You’re a real FR heroine.


47 posted on 03/29/2010 8:44:37 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Asato Ma Sad Gamaya Tamaso Ma Jyotir Gamaya)
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To: butterdezillion
You're welcome to send her a couple of jpgs. See if she can explain why the date stamps don't match between Obama's alleged scan and the Fact Check photos.
48 posted on 03/29/2010 9:04:36 PM PDT by edge919
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To: opentalk; onyx; Fred Nerks; null and void; stockpirate; george76; PhilDragoo; Candor7; rxsid; ...
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. . . . Catching up, check out # 3, too.

[Thanks, azishot.]

49 posted on 03/29/2010 11:45:01 PM PDT by LucyT
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To: jamese777

Lingle told reporters Obama has never voted in Hawaii, nor has he owned a business here.

“Senator Obama likes to say he’s from Hawaii. But, the truth is, I’ve never met him in my life. He’s never called me on the phone. Ninety-five percent of the people in my state had never heard of him before he ran for president” said Lingle.


50 posted on 03/30/2010 12:58:29 AM PDT by mojitojoe (I don't care what you passed. you are irrelevant. I'll NEVER comply in any way. Read my lips, NEVER!)
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To: opentalk

bttt....


51 posted on 03/30/2010 2:03:01 AM PDT by Godebert
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To: LucyT

Remember in his book he said he FOUND the BC in the attic with other papers....His grandparents were living in an apartment weren’t they? Where is the attic located?


52 posted on 03/30/2010 5:25:45 AM PDT by hoosiermama (ONLY DEAD FISH GO WITH THE FLOW.......I am swimming with Sarahcudah! Sarah has read the tealeaves.)
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To: mojitojoe

“Senator Obama likes to say he’s from Hawaii. But, the truth is, I’ve never met him in my life. He’s never called me on the phone. Ninety-five percent of the people in my state had never heard of him before he ran for president” said Lingle.


What does that comment have to do with being born? There aren’t many newborns who vote or own businesses.
If Obama was born in Hawaii on August 4, 1961 at 7:24 PM as his Certification of Live Birht says and his mother and he immediately left the state forever, he’d still be a citizen-at-birth.
The fact remains that Governor Lingle has made public statements referring to Hawaii as “Obama’s birth place.”


53 posted on 03/30/2010 3:29:19 PM PDT by jamese777
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To: butterdezillion

I believe a lot of federal funding would go down the tubes if Obama was proven not to be eligible. The executive order Obama signed to provide “opportunities” for Pacific Islanders including Native Hawaiians totally depends on Obama being legit. If he’s not, that whole program goes bye-bye.

I actually believe that is the legal justification for Hawaii withholding records otherwise required to be disclosed. UIPA has a provision saying that if obeying UIPA would jeopardize federal funding UIPA can be ignored.

I think everybody in Hawaii’s government knows Obama was not born there. I told OIP Director Cathy Takase to her face (in writing. lol) that the Factcheck COLB has been acknowledged by the DOH as a forgery - and she STILL claimed that she had no evidence of forgery to report to law enforcement - and she’d have to decide whether to report forgery if the event ever came up.

They know it. They’re screwing with us all.


No federal funding is on the line because a new President Joe Biden would reaffirm every measure that Barack Obama had signed into law.
Neither the Factcheck COLB nor the Fight the Smears COLB are constitutionally relevant because they are merely photoshopped copies.
What IS relevant is the copy of Obama’s COLB that was sent from the Obama campaign to the St. Petersburg Times’ investigative unit, Politifact. That copy was then emailed to Janice Okubo of the DOH who confirmed it as “a valid Hawaii COLB.”
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2008/jun/27/obamas-birth-certificate-part-ii/
An “on the record” confirmation by a state government official could be challenged in court but thus far, it has not been challenged. It also opened the door for a subpoena, as I have been saying here.
Finally, have you read the Hawaii Department of Health’s FAQ on Obama’s birth records? It lays out their legal position on what can and cannot be released without Obama’s permission.
I favor the pursuit of a subpoena because it does not require Obama’s permission to release whatever records Hawaii has on Obama.


54 posted on 03/30/2010 3:43:56 PM PDT by jamese777
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To: cpdiii
For less than 20 dollars the State of Texas will send me a certified copy and I could have it in less than 2 weeks.

Actually it will cost you $22. But you can get either a long or short form copy.

Texas Vital Statistics-Birth Certificates

extra for expedited processing and/or faster delivery method. Say's it will take 10-15 business days, (2-3 weeks).

55 posted on 03/30/2010 5:43:39 PM PDT by El Gato ("The second amendment is the reset button of the US constitution"-Doug McKay)
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To: hoosiermama
Remember in his book he said he FOUND the BC in the attic with other papers....His grandparents were living in an apartment weren’t they? Where is the attic located?

That's what happens when you let a terrorist write your autobiography for you. He makes "little mistakes" like that. :)

56 posted on 03/30/2010 5:49:06 PM PDT by El Gato ("The second amendment is the reset button of the US constitution"-Doug McKay)
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To: jamese777

Janice Okubo talked about it looking like something bled through from the back of what Politifact sent her. Politifact sent her an electronic image. If the Factcheck image means nothing then neither does what Politifact sent because they never sent a real document. If they had sent a real document she could have just looked on the back herself.

It was deceptive of Politifact to make it appear that they sent her a real piece of paper, wasn’t it? Why do you think they did that?

If Obama was proved to be ineligible Biden would only hold the position of president temporarily. Whether he would be able to issue presidential orders I don’t know, but I think the nation would be pretty upset if he reissued Obama’s bribe offer.

Hawaii law says that endorsing or “inviting the public to trust” a document known to be a forgery is the crime of forgery and/or perjury. Just because Obama’s forgery was posted online doesn’t mean it doesn’t invite the public to trust a forgery, and in fact Obama’s own lawyers said in a legal footnote that Obama himself had produced a legal document - and referenced the Factcheck page with the COLB. So Obama’s lawyers DEFINITELY invited not only the public but also a federal judge to trust a document they knew was fraudulent.


57 posted on 03/30/2010 7:40:25 PM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: jamese777

troll


58 posted on 03/30/2010 8:47:14 PM PDT by mojitojoe (I don't care what you passed. you are irrelevant. I'll NEVER comply in any way. Read my lips, NEVER!)
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To: Red Steel; BP2; LucyT; Kenny Bunk

“Why can not Obama do the same? I will spot him the 20 dollars if he is short.
Even cheaper. You can spot Obama $12.50 for a Hawaiian birth certificate. “
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We should issue a challenge/fund-raiser for Hawaii - millions would pay $12.50 into a fund that would directly benefit Hawaii if they would actually act upon these requests and enforce the laws of their state.

Even if they did not wish to comply, the local populace and the media could NOT avoid the publicity of such an adventure.


59 posted on 03/30/2010 9:47:31 PM PDT by bitt ("WE THE PEOPLE" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JVAhr4hZDJE)
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