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How do I have ny own broadband?
self | April 1, 2010 | knarf

Posted on 04/01/2010 4:59:41 AM PDT by knarf

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To: knarf

What you would like to become is a “peered” ISP.....

I own a small wireless ISP in SE Florida, we’ve invested close to $3.5M for this network.

Not to mention the re-occurring cost or human overhead necessary to manage it.....

Find a reliable ISP in your area and pay your $45/mo.


21 posted on 04/01/2010 5:20:30 AM PDT by nevergore ("It could be that the purpose of my life is simply to serve as a warning to others.")
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To: ctdonath2
OK ... now I go esoteric ... or mad ...

The computer is electrons, right?

Cleverly put together, but electrons nonetheless.

If so, are those electrons SO trapped withing a wire or satalite signal they can't be captured some other way?

Yeah ... I guess it IS stealing, in a way .... but like HAM radio and CB's ... a not too expensive outlay gets communication.

Why couldn't a HAM operator "get" the signal?

22 posted on 04/01/2010 5:21:46 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: freebilly

Hey, it is April first, I’m not buying it. LOL.


23 posted on 04/01/2010 5:25:05 AM PDT by wita
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To: knarf
Wait a minute ... I have soap in my ears ... showering with a moose ....

was the moose eating cheese? ... did it bite your sister?

24 posted on 04/01/2010 5:28:08 AM PDT by TheRightGuy (I want MY BAILOUT ... a billion or two should do!)
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To: mnehring

A T1 line is only 1.544 Mb. Any cable internet service built in the past 10 years should put that to shame.


25 posted on 04/01/2010 5:35:13 AM PDT by posterchild (Endowed by my Creator with certain unalienable rights.)
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To: knarf
... showering with a moose

Never ever goose a moose.

26 posted on 04/01/2010 5:37:57 AM PDT by Boston Blackie
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To: Boston Blackie; knarf
How about Them Moose Goosers,
Ain't they recluse?
Up in them boondocks,
Goosin' them moose.

Goosin' them huge moose,
Goosin' them tiny,
Goosin' them meadow-moose
In the hiney.

Look at Them Moose Goosers,
Ain't they dumb?
Some use an umbrella,
Some use a thumb.

Them obtuse Moose Goosers,
Sneakin' through the woods,
Pokin' them snoozy moose
In the goods.

How to be a Moose Gooser?
It'll turn ye puce.
Gitchy gooser loose and
Rouse a drowsy moose!

Mason Williams

27 posted on 04/01/2010 5:42:13 AM PDT by BlueLancer (I'm getting a fine tootsy-frootsying right here...)
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To: knarf

$30/month form Quest. $70/month Blue Sky or Hughs net.


28 posted on 04/01/2010 5:43:28 AM PDT by mountainlion (concerned conservative.)
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To: knarf
The Internet is a whole lotta computers hooked together. You gotta connect, be it by wire or WiFi or Packet Radio (HAM) or carrier pigeon, your computer to someone else's computer. That someone else, for most practical purposes, is your ISP by definition: they Provide you with Internet Service. Some people will let you connect to theirs for free (community WiFi, stolenunsecured WiFi, HAM Packet Radio, whatever), but somewhere along the way you're making use of someone actually paying for the connection to the rest of the mob.

See, the internet isn't just some etherial substance which you can just "get" (a la growing your own vegetables, home solar power, etc.), it's the cooperation of lots of people (to wit: their computers) passing messages around. When you type "http://www.freerepublic.com" and hit enter, your computer creates a message addressed to freerepublic.com and hands it to another computer you're attached to. That computer hands it to another one. That computer hands it to another one. That computer hands it to another one. That computer hands it to another one. That computer hands it to another one. That computer hands it to another one. That computer hands it to another one. That computer hands it to another one. Eventually, in something akin to Six Degrees of Kevin Bacon, some computer hands that message to the FR computer. Jim Robinson's brainchild then gathers the data for the home page, stuffs it back in a virtual envelope, and hands it to another computer it's attached to. That computer hands it to another one. That computer hands it to another one. That computer hands it to another one. That computer hands it to another one. That computer hands it to another one. That computer hands it to another one. That computer hands it to another one. That computer hands it to another one. Eventually, in something akin to Six Degrees of Kevin Bacon, some computer hands that message to your computer, which displays the web page on your screen.
The problem is that along the line of those connections, most of those computers are paying to connect to each other; some connections are free, but most aren't. And YOU need to connect your computer to one of them, and you'll most likely have to pay for the privilege by hiring an ISP to give you that connection; if you don't, you'll be connecting to someone who does.

29 posted on 04/01/2010 5:45:25 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (+)
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To: knarf
Share.

Eat well

30 posted on 04/01/2010 5:46:21 AM PDT by Paradox (The Party of Know.)
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To: BlueLancer

LOL .... its always good to start a day with a laugh.


31 posted on 04/01/2010 5:46:35 AM PDT by Boston Blackie
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To: knarf

Obama’s gonna give you free broadband. Of course he’ll be sure that the internet is scrubbed of any undesirable content and the IRS will be there to tax your hard drive content.


32 posted on 04/01/2010 6:01:35 AM PDT by NewHampshireDuo
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To: knarf

Do you use a laptop or a desktop? I think you can even use wireless internet on a desktop with some cell phone providers and weather isn’t too much of an issue. You are always going to be paying SOMEONE for the connection. It’s like saying “I want to be able to call people, but I get sick of paying the phone company.” I mean unless you want to hook a line up directly to everyone you might call, you are going to have to use SOMEONE’s service. Might as well pay the company that has the infrastructure up already.

However there are satellite internet companies out there. But even then you will have connection issues if a heavy storm is in the area.


33 posted on 04/01/2010 6:16:17 AM PDT by autumnraine (You can't fix stupid, but you can vote it out!)
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To: knarf


34 posted on 04/01/2010 6:19:31 AM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet)
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To: knarf

It’s not stealing if you use your neighbors WI FI in my opinion. It’s floating around in the air for God sake. On my wifi/wireless router in my house, I have it designated to to stop 20 feet beyond my walls (takes some calculations, but can be done) as the router is in the center of my house and just have a radius it covers. That way I can use the laptop on the porch. But if you are in a neighborhood with houses close together or an apartment, you could probably pick up on that.

Just hope the neighbor pays his bill, LOL!


35 posted on 04/01/2010 6:20:30 AM PDT by autumnraine (You can't fix stupid, but you can vote it out!)
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To: knarf
You can't get away from having an ISP. Well, unless you steal your neighbor's WiFi, but then that just makes your neighbor an ISP.

Well, okay, I suppose you could make yourself your own ISP, but the cost would be prohibitive.

36 posted on 04/01/2010 6:30:40 AM PDT by AFreeBird
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To: djf
Your DSL "modem" needs power to talk to the hub at the CO, and it needs AC power. The Plain Old Telephone Service (POTS) was self powered, which is why your phones still worked when the power is out.

DSL still uses the same copper POTS did, and if you didn't switch to VoIP, that's why your phones (the hard wired ones) still work. If you switch to VoIP, then your phones will be down when the power goes out because they need power just like you DSL modem needs power.

37 posted on 04/01/2010 6:37:06 AM PDT by AFreeBird
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To: AFreeBird; All
Another awesome thread because of one of my hairbrained ideas

yuze guys iz great!

38 posted on 04/01/2010 7:11:25 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: AFreeBird

Ummmmm... I ain’t like 12 years old.

I have a 450 watt inverter and three 6-8 hundred CCA auto batteries stashed.

It had plenty of power.


39 posted on 04/01/2010 9:45:32 AM PDT by djf
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To: djf
Sorry, I missed the part about you rigging up alternate power. Yes there is equipment upstream that needs power, but I would be greatly surprised if the CO didn't have UPS equipment and standby generating capacity.

Now if they were running solely on UPS then I could see them shutting off the DSL equipment to save power for telephone service equipment. But the backup generator should have kicked in long before the UPS batteries expired.

I suppose there might be (probably are) interim hubs between you and the CO that need AC power, and may not have UPS backup. But who knows. Ma Bell ain't what she used to be.

40 posted on 04/01/2010 10:13:26 AM PDT by AFreeBird
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