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How do I have ny own broadband?
self | April 1, 2010 | knarf

Posted on 04/01/2010 4:59:41 AM PDT by knarf

While reading about the competition for broadband in South Korea .. I wondered ...


TOPICS: Computers/Internet
KEYWORDS: broadband; computers; speed
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My understanding of internet connection is pretty limited.

I got my first computer in 1998 and it took two days for me to learn I needed an ISP, which in those days was a dial-up connection. (at a monthly cost, of course)

Since then, I have played ISP tag dropping one for another a little less expensive. The last dial up I had was $9.95 a month ... very slow, but all I did was read FreeRepublic and play Freecell, (with the required Google searches prompted by FR articles)

THEN, folks started posting Youtube links that sometimes I watched the next day after leaving the machine on all night long to download (true story!!)


Now I have Comcast highspeed, which is pretty good except ... I STILL have occasional foul weather issues reminiscent of the old phoneline dial up.


So ... what exactly does one need to go on line without an ISP of some kind?

Is it really so complicated or expensive?

1 posted on 04/01/2010 4:59:42 AM PDT by knarf
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To: knarf

Steal your neighbor’s wi-fi....


2 posted on 04/01/2010 5:01:49 AM PDT by freebilly (No wonder the left has a boner for Obama. There's CIALIS in soCIALISt....)
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To: knarf

p.s., Freerepublic and Freecell are the best things to do with a computer....


3 posted on 04/01/2010 5:02:28 AM PDT by freebilly (No wonder the left has a boner for Obama. There's CIALIS in soCIALISt....)
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Maybe it is only borrowing? Especially if you promise to return it.


4 posted on 04/01/2010 5:03:12 AM PDT by wita
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To: knarf

Unless you want to shell out some money for a T1, you will need some sort of service provider, be it cable, DSL, or wireless. There are places that provide free WiFi, however, I assume you mean at home instead of trudging to the library every time you want to get online.


5 posted on 04/01/2010 5:06:05 AM PDT by mnehring
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To: freebilly
Here's my broadband


6 posted on 04/01/2010 5:07:00 AM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: knarf

move to NY


7 posted on 04/01/2010 5:07:43 AM PDT by Vaquero (BHO....'The Pretenda from Kenya')
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To: knarf

You’d be amazed at how many of your neighbors have unsecured wifi available.

Of course, that would be stealing...


8 posted on 04/01/2010 5:09:38 AM PDT by reagan_fanatic (Entitlements will do to America what drugs eventually do to addicts)
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To: Puppage

9 posted on 04/01/2010 5:11:18 AM PDT by reagan_fanatic (Entitlements will do to America what drugs eventually do to addicts)
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To: knarf
So ... what exactly does one need to go on line without an ISP of some kind?

first off, you've got to be sure you're logged in ... are you?

10 posted on 04/01/2010 5:11:20 AM PDT by TheRightGuy (I want MY BAILOUT ... a billion or two should do!)
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To: mnehring
Yeah, exactly.

I admit to having no knowledge of this stuff ... a router makes nice edges on wood, a blade is a shiv and WIFI is the forerunner of stereo.

See?

Absolutely dumb about this stuff.

It just seems that some sort of electronic device can be invented or built that would zap into (like an induction timer light) a telephone line, or satalite dish.

11 posted on 04/01/2010 5:11:29 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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Is it really so complicated or expensive?

Yes and yes.

12 posted on 04/01/2010 5:11:49 AM PDT by savedbygrace (You are only leading if people follow. Otherwise, you just wandered off.)
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I have DSL.

My power went out earlier this week for about 6 hours.

But my phone still worked, so I rigged up stuff to get power to my DSL box so I could get online.

Nix, nada, zip. Even though the phone was working, the DSL subcomponent would not connect.

So there ust be some relay type equipment upstream used by the DSL stuff that runs off of the public power, so it was out also.


13 posted on 04/01/2010 5:12:47 AM PDT by djf
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"first off, you've got to be sure you're logged in ... are you?"

What?
Huh?
Wait a minute ... I have soap in my ears ... showering with a moose ....

14 posted on 04/01/2010 5:13:33 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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You can’t.

You’re asking for electrical service without powerlines, prepackaged foods without grocery stores, books without publishers. Ain’t happenin’.

To connect to FR (or whatever website or other internet-connected computer) you need to rent space/time on the infrastructure between FR and you. The owner of that infrastructure, or whatever piece thereof you’re going to connect to, _is_ your ISP. SOMEBODY owns whatever piece of the internet you’re using to connect, and you’re going to have to pay for that connection. Your only alternative is drive to CA, find Jim Robinson, and talk him into letting you plug into the FR computer(s) directly.

Remember: ISP stands for Internet Service Provider. If you want internet service, you’re going to pay someone to provide it to you. “The Internet” is not free; it’s toll roads the whole way.


15 posted on 04/01/2010 5:14:05 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (+)
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To: knarf

ISP = Internet Service Provider

If you want to connect to the Internet, you either have to go through an ISP or become one. To become one, there is a whole lot of expensive equipment to purchase, people to hire, connections to be made ... and guess what, you will STILL be connecting to other ISPs.

So the short of it is.... there always has to be an ISP. However the technology on how you connect to that ISP can differ. Generally speaking, your choices are land line, wireless or broadband.

Land line starts at dial up, passes through ISDN, then to DSL and goes up to T1 lines and higher.

Wireless can be mobile phone as a modem, 3G, wifi, satellite, microwave, etc.

Broadband is generally either cable or fiber optic but in some rare instances can be delivered via power lines.

In short... no, you have to have an ISP and you are limited by what they offer and the means of getting that connectivity to your house.


16 posted on 04/01/2010 5:16:15 AM PDT by taxcontrol
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To: wita

My neighbor borrowed my wi-fi but got in a fender bender on the info superhighway. Got it back all dented....


17 posted on 04/01/2010 5:16:39 AM PDT by freebilly (No wonder the left has a boner for Obama. There's CIALIS in soCIALISt....)
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I thought Wifi was what Diane Feinstein’s husband called her in private?!?

Consider your ISP (Internet Service Provider) to be the paver for the on-ramp onto the information superhighway. The internet is essentially a collection of storage stations where information is made available via web sites. You have to have a connection point to send and receive information over the internet. An ISP gives you that connection.

The cost is loosely governed by the value - which is usually calculated in terms of the speed and reliability.

The reason it isn’t free is that it’s worth something.

See - simple!

(Or was Wi-fi-fo-fum what the giant said when he discovered Jack of the beanstalk fame?) ;-P


18 posted on 04/01/2010 5:20:06 AM PDT by MortMan (It's unconstitutional, it's wrong, and it's evil. But that's Obama in a nutshell.)
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To: ctdonath2
OK ... now I go esoteric ... or mad ...

The computer is electrons, right?

Cleverly put together, but electrons nonetheless.

If so, are those electrons SO trapped withing a wire or satalite signal they can't be captured some other way?

Yeah ... I guess it IS stealing, in a way .... but like HAM radio and CB's ... a not too expensive outlay gets communication.

Why couldn't a HAM operator "get" the signal?

19 posted on 04/01/2010 5:20:17 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: Puppage

Ya think that wi-fi and wifey are related, etymologically speaking? Just saying....


20 posted on 04/01/2010 5:20:23 AM PDT by freebilly (No wonder the left has a boner for Obama. There's CIALIS in soCIALISt....)
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