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The Power of Apple
Seeking Alpha ^ | 04/14/2010 | John Galt

Posted on 04/15/2010 7:24:31 PM PDT by Swordmaker

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1 posted on 04/15/2010 7:24:31 PM PDT by Swordmaker
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~; 1234; 50mm; Abundy; Action-America; acoulterfan; AFreeBird; Airwinger; Aliska; ...
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2 posted on 04/15/2010 7:26:46 PM PDT by Swordmaker (Remember, the proper pronunciation of IE isAAAAIIIIIEEEEEEE!)
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3 posted on 04/15/2010 7:31:03 PM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet)
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You know what else the iPad is poised to kill? The teachers unions. A full K-12 curriculum will easily fit on the 64GB model, and what is their excuse going to be when kids with iPads can use simple, programmed instruction concepts developed in the 1960's to operate at college level by age 10?

It will take all of the Left's cunning to save their carefully cultivated army of brainwashing professionals from the technological onslaught that is coming. Because even if the West sticks with its century-old military-priesthood academic model and refuses to embrace technology - Asia will.

4 posted on 04/15/2010 7:43:38 PM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ( "The right to offend is far more important than any right not to be offended." - Rowan Atkinson)
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To: Swordmaker

Hmmm...
http://www.theonion.com/video/apple-introduces-revolutionary-new-laptop-with-no,14299/


5 posted on 04/15/2010 7:45:58 PM PDT by dcgst4
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To: Mr. Jeeves

And then there is the demise of the Back Pack industry as students downsize their daily tote which will also put chiropractors in the unemployment lines...


6 posted on 04/15/2010 7:58:11 PM PDT by tubebender (Don 't pick a fight with an old man.  If he is too old to fight, he'll just shoot you...)
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To: Swordmaker
Do you remember Napster?

I have Napster. It's legal, costs $14 a month for unlimited downloads that you can put on your mp3. It's a great deal, especially compared to $1 per song downloads when you have a bunch of kids constantly adding songs to their players.

7 posted on 04/15/2010 8:22:37 PM PDT by Defiant (April 15, 2011--let it come crashing down. This is the last time I feed the beast.)
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I’ll freely admit that Apple makes good products but when it comes to actually usefullness, most of them don’t fit the bill.

For a music player, the ipod really isn’t better then most other players. It’s plays a limited number of formats, has an average UI, and is damn expensive. I want a product that does more if I’m going to pay that much for it and fortuntatly Apple has the Ipod Touch. For me it was worth it with the apps, games, and other tools and I bought one (on Craigslist :) ).

However that’s the only Apple product I have and ever plan to get. I do a little programming and use many relatively rare and unknown programs for various things which will only run on windows. For what I want to do with my computer, gaming especially, there is no other choice and if I had one it sure as hell wouldn’t be a Mac. I build my own computers, you ever tried looking for Mac parts? Bah

As for the iPad, I have an ipod touch, why would I want a bigger one? If I’m going to pay that much for a computer, I want a computer not an overgrown speak and spell. There are at least 4 other slates coming out this year that will have better specs and better OS’s then the ipad (you know, like multitasking...the lack of which is unforgiviable).

As for books, I’m willing to give the Pixel Qi screen a chance but I will never read a book on a backlit LCD, I stare enough at a computer all day. I’ve been reading on e-ink for years now and that’s as relaxing on my eyes as paper. Even if I do get a slate in the future (non Apple) I’m not reading books on it.

Sorry about the rant. Saw a guy with an Ipad today and he saw me looking. He had such a smug look on him that I just wanted to punch him in his dumb monkey face.


8 posted on 04/15/2010 8:53:32 PM PDT by Raymann
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I wouldn’t go so far as to say Apple will kill teachers unions. While school districts may spend your tax dollars to buy Macs buy the truckloads, there is no way they’ll let an iPad and a parent kill their personal cash cow. Never.

Should that happen, the “Zune Pad with Homeschool Lockout” or “Android For Idiot Teachers” or some other thing will suddenly be all the rage in your local school district.


9 posted on 04/15/2010 8:54:06 PM PDT by edh (I need a better tagline)
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You know what else the iPad is poised to kill? The teachers unions.

From your keyboard to God's ... er ... screen.

10 posted on 04/15/2010 9:10:53 PM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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Oh, the good ole Napster days. From the article, you would think that we will have to change the way that we record history from BC and AD to before and after iPad.
11 posted on 04/15/2010 9:43:36 PM PDT by Nosterrex
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To: Raymann
I’ll freely admit that Apple makes good products but when it comes to actually usefullness, most of them don’t fit the bill.

There speaks a man who does not use what he criticizes.

For a music player, the ipod really isn’t better then most other players. It’s plays a limited number of formats, has an average UI, and is damn expensive. I want a product that does more if I’m going to pay that much for it and fortuntatly Apple has the Ipod Touch. For me it was worth it with the apps, games, and other tools and I bought one (on Craigslist :) ).

I see, an "average" user interface. The one that none of the others seem to be able to better. OK.

However that’s the only Apple product I have and ever plan to get. I do a little programming and use many relatively rare and unknown programs for various things which will only run on windows. For what I want to do with my computer, gaming especially, there is no other choice and if I had one it sure as hell wouldn’t be a Mac. I build my own computers, you ever tried looking for Mac parts? Bah

What parts are you having trouble finding, Raymann? Memory? Standard. Hard drives? Standard Serial ATA. Cables? Standard. Keyboards? Available on line... or plug in a USB keyboard and use it. Mouses? Plug in any USB mouse. CD/DVD drives? Standard ATA Optical drives.

And those hot-air ware slates... Exactly WHAT OS are they going to be running? Windows 7 with a pasted on touch input driver? Linux with the same thing? And what specs? A crippled, cut down laptop without a keyboard or mouse? The iPad will have multi-tasking as of September, it's already announced... and it already has multitasking in Apple apps. But you wouldn't know that, getting your talking points from people who don't use one just like you don't use one.

Saw a guy with an Ipad today and he saw me looking. He had such a smug look on him that I just wanted to punch him in his dumb monkey face.

That last ad hominem teils more about you than it does about Apple product users. What bigotry... and closed mindedness.

12 posted on 04/15/2010 10:44:48 PM PDT by Swordmaker (Remember, the proper pronunciation of IE isAAAAIIIIIEEEEEEE!)
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I wasn’t trying to write another article but to answer your questions:

“There speaks a man who does not use what he criticizes.”

I’ve had to use them in college and one of my previous jobs. The last Mac OS I’ve used was 10 and I found it unintuitive and presumptuous (took forever to change default setting to the way I like it).

“I see, an “average” user interface. The one that none of the others seem to be able to better. OK.”

Actually I think the Zune Metro is much better :)

“What parts are you having trouble finding, Raymann?”

Uh, I did mention gaming? High end gaming isn’t a priority for Apple so mac compatiable cards and drivers come out much later then their PC counterparts. And even if they didn’t the mac gaming library is tiny compared to the PC’s.

“And those hot-air ware slates... Exactly WHAT OS are they going to be running?”

Depends on the slate. HP will be some Linux varient, the MS Curior will be 7 of course, and the Marvell will be andriod. And if I don’t like the slate with the OS it has, I could probably change it.

And as for your multitasking comment its not my fault they released a crippled comment. As for my talking points, they all come from place like CNET, Gizmondo, Engadget, and my own use of the Ipod touch. No one likes the closed app system, no one likes the near impossibility of user modifications other then jailbreaking it, no one likes that it can’t play flash which means no HULU, and no freakin USB.

And seriously...I’m a BIGOT for not liking the Ipad??? Christ man I just don’t like a lot of their products, get a grip.


13 posted on 04/15/2010 11:33:39 PM PDT by Raymann
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I don't need an ipod. I can whistle.
14 posted on 04/15/2010 11:52:53 PM PDT by Othniel (Meddlng in human affairs for 1/20th of a millennium.......)
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To: Swordmaker

I gotta disagree that the iPad is a gamechanger.

I played with one for about 30 minutes in the store today and came away unimpressed. It’s a nice toy, but that’s all it is — a toy.

I might be interested in having a used one if it was about one third the price, and I would be moderately pleased if someone gave me one, but this incarnation of the device is strictly a yawner.


15 posted on 04/16/2010 1:04:10 AM PDT by Ronin
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To: Raymann
And as for your multitasking comment its not my fault they released a crippled comment. As for my talking points, they all come from place like CNET, Gizmondo, Engadget, and my own use of the Ipod touch. No one likes the closed app system, no one likes the near impossibility of user modifications other then jailbreaking it, no one likes that it can’t play flash which means no HULU, and no freakin USB.

OK, all 85,000,000 of the "no ones" who have bought the iPhones and iPod touches don't like them... I get it. Right. No one likes it.

I think you protest too much.

16 posted on 04/16/2010 1:23:20 AM PDT by Swordmaker (Remember, the proper pronunciation of IE isAAAAIIIIIEEEEEEE!)
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“And seriously...I’m a BIGOT for not liking the Ipad??? Christ man I just don’t like a lot of their products, get a grip.”

No, you are a racist pile of scum for not liking Apple ;-).

My disgust with that company goes back to the 1970s when Steve Jobs would rape Steve Wozniak by screwing him out of bonus money. Wozniak did some slick engineering to create Atari’s Breakout. Jobs reaped all the bonuses since Woz was able to reduce the chip count. Hell, the Breakout hardware was pretty much the basis for the Apple II computers. This has been well documented.

I really don’t get this Apple cult. I’ve used personal computers my entire life ... anything from about 1980 on up, I’ve done *something* with it. In the 80s, I found the Commodore and Atari line of PCs to be the best for general purpose computing. Sure the Mac had that slick OS and Mototola 68000 processor and the like, but the C64 and Atari computers just had more value and a broader range of software. Even the TRS80 CoCo had a pretty powerful 6809 processor (crummy graphics and audio though) and was a great deal. Even back then, I was told how fantastic Apple was by a few people just didn’t get it. I used Apple IIs in school for 4 years and found myself enjoying programming on a TI99/4A we had in our computer lab more than the Apple. There was simply more hardware out-of-the-box to use and abuse.

While I dig Apple’s aesthetics & engineering, I just don’t seem to get high off these products. I don’t know ... maybe every time I used one the plastic had hardened and I couldn’t get high off the fumes.

Like you Raymann, I was told that I didn’t know what I was talking about when I used an iPhone and really didn’t like the user interface. Maybe I didn’t use it long enough to get hypnotized into liking it. I was also told that my Droid was an inferior ripoff of the iPhone and that I didn’t know what I was talking about by many Apple users. This was all because I said “I prefer the Droid to the iPhone because of the slide out keyboard”.

Quite honestly, I could care less what other people think of what devices I choose to use. They serve me well. I was able to play with an iPad the other day. Again, neat toy ... it’s really pretty and amazing looking. But, really, at the end of the day, I can get more bang for my buck with a Tablet PC or an older Slate PC. I want a slate to read and take notes ... a bigger bonus would be to be able to take notes on a PDF Ebook or the like. More importantly, since I’d be doing a ton of reading on a slate PC, e-ink would be a Godsend.

Maybe iPad has an app for the PDF/Ebook note taking ... if so, great ... that means a similar one will be available very soon in either an MS or Linux flavor.

Seriously, whoever wrote this article seems more like an adolescent cheerleader or numbnut. Good for Apple for being so successful. Fantastic. Go ahead and blindly support a company and blast others as inferior bigots when they don’t like the products. You sound like those kids who fight about their Xbox 360 being superior to a PS3 and vice versa. It’s mind numbingly stupid!

Quite frankly, I’ve pretty much decided against owning any Apple products mainly due to the downright arrogance displayed by its user base. I’ve seen a picture recently with a girl who carved “apple rules” into her arm with a razor blade ... the caption says “10% of the market, 90% of the crazies” ... that picture gets truer by the day.

Also, I know, Rush Limbaugh uses Macs ... big deal ... I’m not a mind numbed robot and blindly follows everything he does.


17 posted on 04/16/2010 1:38:07 AM PDT by edh (I need a better tagline)
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To: Raymann
Thanks for telling us about your life. Other than that I don't see much useful information in your post.

Saw a guy with an Ipad today and he saw me looking. He had such a smug look on him that I just wanted to punch him in his dumb monkey face.

I think that is the most telling part. Why let others get to you like that, especially over a device they are using? His attitude and "smug look" are only your assumptions, but even at that, who cares?

18 posted on 04/16/2010 5:50:21 AM PDT by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all that needs to be done needs to be done by the government)
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I agree with others here that this article is more cheer leading than substantive. Not everyone's life revolves around the niche markets Apple serves. And, although the company is innovative, especially its marketing department, the majority of people are unaffected by iphones and itunes, believe it or not.

The vast majority of computing platforms we use in our everyday lives we don't even notice. They are in all our appliances, our automobiles and in dozens of other devices such as our cameras. Taken together, their number dwarfs the number of laptops and cell phones. And taken together they change our lives more than any single fad device from a single company.

Regarding the iPad specifically, we'll have to see how it develops, but I've never got a lot of use out of a device without a full keyboard. Maybe that's just me, but I have to manage contacts and data bases and documents in addition to managing gobs of images and video. I don't know how to do some of that with a touch screen only.

But, in general, I like Apple and I particularly like the fact that their MAC operating system is based on an open source UNIX-like standard because I think open platforms are more flexible and longer lasting than proprietary ones. But one should never forget that there are smart people everywhere, not just in one company, and the competitive edge can change quickly. By the way, the fact that the MAC runs on free BSD makes your contempt of Linux amusing.

19 posted on 04/16/2010 7:28:58 AM PDT by freedom_forge (http://libertyphysics.wordpress.com/)
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But, in general, I like Apple and I particularly like the fact that their MAC operating system is based on an open source UNIX-like standard because I think open platforms are more flexible and longer lasting than proprietary ones. But one should never forget that there are smart people everywhere, not just in one company, and the competitive edge can change quickly. By the way, the fact that the MAC runs on free BSD makes your contempt of Linux amusing.

What contempt of Linux is that, Freedom? You won't find it from me. However, BSD is not Linux. BSD is UNIX. UNIX and Linux are not equivalents.

20 posted on 04/16/2010 2:23:41 PM PDT by Swordmaker (Remember, the proper pronunciation of IE isAAAAIIIIIEEEEEEE!)
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