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To: Red Steel; A Navy Vet; Black Agnes

Don’t kid yourself. There are female triathlete types who can get through BUD/S. That’s the wrong approach, to “challenge” women to make it. A few would make it, trust me. The question is more generally about long mission endurance by women other than the top top top .00001%. Once a few of those triathletes break the barrier, affirmative action will come in and the mission will suffer.

(I went through BUD/S class 105, “back when training was training” as they say.)


33 posted on 05/01/2010 6:53:34 AM PDT by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: Travis McGee
"Don’t kid yourself. There are female triathlete types who can get through BUD/S. That’s the wrong approach, to “challenge” women to make it. A few would make it, trust me"

I do trust you, however, BUDS and latter SEAL combat training are different animals. You know about the combat training and the "search and destroy" training, which the women are not so good at. Big difference. I'm a simple aviation Sailor but have been stationed at Coronado, San Diego and watched those guys train and talked with the combat trainers. I've seen the largest most muscular capable men ring the bell.

Still, combat training, search and destroy, capture and interrogation, evasion and survival while on a clandestine mission is something I don't believe women have the fortitude for it.

Sorry, but I believe even THE biggest bull dyke could not pass the combat training of a US SEAL, unless requirements have been dumbed downed. Still, you would know better than me. But I doubt few if any women can work the problem. Tell me otherwise, and I will accept your word as fact.

Best to you, Trident Holder. You have my ultimate respect. Wearing that golden medal means you worked your ass off. I know, I've watched you guys for years. Youse guys are my heroes.

Wanna share a rack?...hahaha! Actually, I love my wife and I'm not sure she would be happy with me sharing a bunk with some old seal. She's probably say, "what? are you into marine mammals now?". Har! Just funning you guy. She knows Navy.

BTW, have you been watching the HBO series "The Pacific"? It's brutal and realistic according to all accounts from the old guys interviewed. The interesting (or sad) thing is that more Marines were sacrificed in the Soloman Islands than Guadalcanal and Imo Jimo together. Most people have never heard of Peleliu. An awful daily destruction and mangling of humans on a small island in the Soloman chain.

That said, the US interest was always about the push through Europe. I wear my Father's staff sergeant stripes on my biker vest for his fight in Belgium and France campaigns, not to mention his Division flanking Patton's 3rd Army in the Buldge. Take care...Shipmate. You've earned it.

39 posted on 05/02/2010 3:58:42 AM PDT by A Navy Vet (An Oath Is Forever!)
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