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Man jailed for indecent exposure
Rexburg Standard Journal ^ | May 4, 2010 | Joseph Law

Posted on 05/07/2010 4:23:40 PM PDT by Colofornian

REXBURG - Several indecent exposure incidents on the afternoon of April 30 have led to felony charges against a Rexburg man.

Travis Lee Martin, 22, a Brigham Young University-Idaho student, was charged Monday with two counts of sexual abuse of a child under 16, both felonies.

He was also charged with three misdemeanor counts of indecent exposure.

Capt. Randy Lewis of the Rexburg Police Department said the incidents occurred at Smith Park, Porter Park, Tuscany Apartments parking lot and on College Avenue.

Lewis said witnesses stated that Martin was masturbating in his car and the door was open.

Martin has been released from the Madison County Jail after posting a $50,000 bond.


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KEYWORDS: byu; indecentexposure; lds; mormon
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From the article: Travis Lee Martin, 22, a Brigham Young University-Idaho student, was charged Monday with two counts of sexual abuse of a child under 16, both felonies. He was also charged with three misdemeanor counts of indecent exposure.
1 posted on 05/07/2010 4:23:40 PM PDT by Colofornian
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To: Colofornian

A local sex offense crime. What is your issue here?


2 posted on 05/07/2010 4:24:50 PM PDT by johniegrad
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To: Eaker
Lewis said witnesses stated that Martin was masturbating in his car and the door was open.

Relevant to your interests ping.

3 posted on 05/07/2010 4:25:33 PM PDT by humblegunner (Pablo is very wily)
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To: johniegrad
A local sex offense crime. What is your issue here?

Are you counsel for the defense?

4 posted on 05/07/2010 4:25:59 PM PDT by Colofornian
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To: humblegunner

ROFLOL!!


5 posted on 05/07/2010 4:27:07 PM PDT by Osage Orange (Si vis pacem, para bellum)
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To: Colofornian
A local sex offense crime. What is your issue here?

Are you counsel for the defense?

Are you too ignorant to answer a question?

6 posted on 05/07/2010 4:29:39 PM PDT by johniegrad
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To: johniegrad

A guy in our town did about 3 years time for doing the same thing. But, I’m in agreement with you. Why is this even being posted on FR?


7 posted on 05/07/2010 4:30:34 PM PDT by no dems (Palin / Rubio 2012)
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To: johniegrad
Are you too ignorant to answer a question?

Since you didn't answer my Q, then I guess you've tabbed yourself by your own standard, eh? (Brilliant)

8 posted on 05/07/2010 4:31:26 PM PDT by Colofornian
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To: Colofornian
Lewis said witnesses stated that Martin was masturbating in his car and the door was open.

It doesn't say whether he was parked or going down the road.

9 posted on 05/07/2010 4:31:26 PM PDT by ColdWater ("The theory of evolution really has no bearing on what I'm trying to accomplish with FR anyway. ")
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To: Colofornian

Do you think the counsel for the defense is posting on this thread? Maybe you are too stupid to answer an honest question.


10 posted on 05/07/2010 4:33:08 PM PDT by johniegrad
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To: Colofornian

Have you ever noticed the signs around schools that say “Slow to 15 MPH when flashing”? Gives one pause to wonder.


11 posted on 05/07/2010 4:34:14 PM PDT by Humvee (Beliefs are more powerful than facts - Paulus Atreides)
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To: Colofornian
Martin was masturbating

That is a good definition of what you do, mentally, while posting all these articles.

12 posted on 05/07/2010 4:35:32 PM PDT by 999replies (Thune/Rubio 2012)
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To: Colofornian

Gross. Sounds like a 21st century version of a Barney Miller episode.


13 posted on 05/07/2010 4:42:34 PM PDT by Making_Sense [Rob W. Case]
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To: johniegrad; no dems
You know, Johnie, considering you've Freep-posted...
...a vanity (October, 2004) called "I Have Gas"...
...and "Penis-Numbing Condom Planned" (April, 2003)...
...and supposedly, as you define them, a "local issue" in Oshkosh, WI re: a thread entitled, "Boy Punished For Threatening To Kiss Girls" about a 6 yo who had "to sit in an elementary school office for part of a day as punishment for trying to kiss some kindergarten and first-grade girls on the playground..."
...I don't believe you're exactly the "Thread Czar Standard Setter" worthy of receiving in-depth explanations on everything.

Now, perhaps if your own thread resume' was 100% worthy of emulation, then perhaps I'd have to reconsider....

14 posted on 05/07/2010 4:46:32 PM PDT by Colofornian
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To: johniegrad; Colofornian
Do you think the counsel for the defense is posting on this thread? Maybe you are too stupid to answer an honest question.

Colofornian hates Mormons.

In the spirit of full disclosure, I'm a nondenominal Christian. I also drive a pickup truck, play guitar and enjoy reading and long walks.

15 posted on 05/07/2010 4:49:24 PM PDT by Grizzled Bear (Does not play well with others.)
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To: Colofornian
Go back to my first post to you and do try to stay on topic here.

I asked you a question. You responded by asking a question. I asked you to respond to the first question. You accused me of something in order to avoid answering the question.

Now you come back after searching the archives to again avoid answering the question.

Why do you not want to answer the question about why you posted what is essentially a local law enforcement issue?

Nice attempt at diversion but see if you can stay on task. It can't be that difficult for you, can it?

16 posted on 05/07/2010 4:50:33 PM PDT by johniegrad
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To: Grizzled Bear
Colofornian hates Mormons.

Thanks. I didn't know that and simply wanted to know why this thread was relevant.

As a full disclosure, I am not Mormon nor do I have anything against Mormons.

I now understand that Colofornian is an anti-Mormon bigot.

I appreciate your input.

17 posted on 05/07/2010 4:53:08 PM PDT by johniegrad
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To: Colofornian

Martin and Lewis ???

They back together again ???


18 posted on 05/07/2010 4:53:40 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Grizzled Bear; Colofornian
You are wrong C does not hate Mormons, C detests MormonISM.
19 posted on 05/07/2010 4:55:22 PM PDT by svcw (Habakkuk 2:3)
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To: johniegrad

Thanks for bumping the thread kid...


20 posted on 05/07/2010 4:56:30 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: johniegrad; Colofornian
You are wrong C does not hate Mormons, C detests MormonISM.
21 posted on 05/07/2010 4:56:53 PM PDT by svcw (Habakkuk 2:3)
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To: johniegrad
I now understand that Colofornian is an anti-Mormon bigot.

Oh...well that's original.

So does that make you an anti-anti-mormon bigot?

I guess it does, eh?

22 posted on 05/07/2010 4:57:17 PM PDT by Osage Orange (Si vis pacem, para bellum)
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To: Osage Orange

Non sequitur.


23 posted on 05/07/2010 4:58:13 PM PDT by johniegrad
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To: johniegrad
Why do you not want to answer the question about why you posted what is essentially a local law enforcement issue? Nice attempt at diversion but see if you can stay on task. It can't be that difficult for you, can it?

Sometimes I answer questions with a question, because, depending on the source & manner of the Q, that's the best way to handle it.

For example: Your claim that this is a mere "local issue". If it is, then did you likewise recognize the thread you posted in Oshkosh re: the 6 yo as a simple "local school principal jurisdiction issue"? (Yes or No? If not, why not?)

And indeed your history is relevant because from a cursory view, I'd like to see how consistent you are.

24 posted on 05/07/2010 4:59:12 PM PDT by Colofornian
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To: johniegrad

Whatever....bigot.


25 posted on 05/07/2010 4:59:34 PM PDT by Osage Orange (Si vis pacem, para bellum)
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To: Colofornian

It’s clear you have no intention of answering the question. Sorry, not playing your games.


26 posted on 05/07/2010 5:00:26 PM PDT by johniegrad
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To: Osage Orange
Whatever....bigot.

Nice comeback.

27 posted on 05/07/2010 5:01:26 PM PDT by johniegrad
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To: johniegrad; Colofornian

"Break free and go to the neutral corners!"

28 posted on 05/07/2010 5:07:18 PM PDT by ErnBatavia (It's not the Obama Administration....it's the "Obama Regime".)
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To: humblegunner

When I was on jury duty we put a bastard just like this in jail for six years and the rest of his life on the sex offenders list.

I wanted to give him the maximum, ten years but his lawyer saw the writing on the wall and plea bargained with the Assistant DA.


29 posted on 05/07/2010 5:10:59 PM PDT by Eaker (Pablo is very wily)
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To: johniegrad
It’s clear you have no intention of answering the question.

That's what I thought. I gave you an opportunity to explain your position; you've refused.

So, it's "OK" for you, nine years ago, to post a podunk story about an Oshkosh elementary school principal office, where you've got the most "local" of local jurisdiction issues imaginable...a principal trying to keep a 6 yo from going out and kissing classmates by keeping an eye on him...and you deem that all relevant to the national eye...
...but if someone posts something you somehow think is "too local," you're off to the inquisitive race (as in inquisition) and quick to toss out "bigot" labels upon people you don't even know.

It's OK for you to jump right in with those inquisitive questions, but if they come back atcha, what you expect from others is suddenly deemed as a "game." (Does that mean your motive was "game-like"?)

So much for consistency.

30 posted on 05/07/2010 5:25:29 PM PDT by Colofornian
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To: Colofornian

Why are you posting this?


31 posted on 05/07/2010 5:29:05 PM PDT by GOPJ ("Draw Mohammad Day" - - May 20, 2010 - Draw for freedom - draw for your children's freedom.)
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To: Grizzled Bear; Colofornian
Colofornian hates Mormons.

You are a liar.

32 posted on 05/07/2010 5:35:35 PM PDT by Graybeard58 (No Romney,No Mark Kirk (Illinois), not now, not ever!)
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To: GOPJ; johniegrad
Why are you posting this?

If you can show me some consistency -- that you've asked the publisher or managing editor of the Rexburg Standard Journal why they originally published this, I'll consider answering your Q.

But if you have no desire to find out why the Standard-Journal did, then what's your motivation for asking me this Q?

33 posted on 05/07/2010 5:39:01 PM PDT by Colofornian
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To: GOPJ

Why not? It is a news story.


34 posted on 05/07/2010 5:51:20 PM PDT by svcw (Habakkuk 2:3)
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To: Osage Orange; johniegrad; Grizzled Bear; Graybeard58
I now understand that Colofornian is an anti-Mormon bigot. [johniegrad]

Oh...well that's original. So does that make you an anti-anti-mormon bigot? I guess it does, eh? [Osage Orange]

Non sequitor [johniegrad]

Non sequitor? (Not all)

In light of the origin of the word "bigot" I find all this a bit ironic. Originally, the word “bigot” was developed in a Catholic context & wasn't originally aimed at anyone outside of a historic Christian (Catholic) context.

"Bigot" is etymologically tied to "Beguines." It was used abusively in French for the Beguines, members of a Roman Catholic lay sisterhood, with the meaning of attaching "excessive devotion" to this sisterhood...(yeah, the devoted do get slapped around a bit).

So, you’re right, johniegrad, in one way in that “bigot” in its original usage was tied to perceived intolerance. (I don’t know if the Beguines were actually intolerant or not). The Beguines were probably at least perceived as practicing "spiritual one-upsmanship"--and others didn't like it--they felt looked down upon. Perhaps they felt scorned because such sisterhoods tended to isolate themselves more and because of that, the Beguines perhaps were perceived as being spiritually snooty ("we don't like how excessively devoted they are").

But to wind this back to what I said. "Bigot" is originally tied to "excessive devotion." I suppose it's possible that the Beguines were indeed "excessively devoted." (It's also just as possible that the other Catholics' perception was largely wrong...but once a reputation develops...). But let's just say they were excessively devoted. If that's the name-slinging you wish to engage in, johniegrad, I'll just take the high road and claim a historical context.

But if you want to insist on a contemporary usage of that term -- that "bigot" means "intolerant" -- then you need to answer Osage Orange's Q. Because aren't you showing religious intolerance toward us? On what grounds is your "intolerance" so "allowable" and therefore elitist, whereas anyone else's perceived "intolerance" is called into question?

See. With you, Johniegrad, we're back to the consistency issue with you. (I'm still waiting for you to show some)

35 posted on 05/07/2010 5:53:33 PM PDT by Colofornian
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To: johniegrad; Colofornian
As a full disclosure, I am not Mormon nor do I have anything against Mormons.

Their doctrine is toxic and many of their founders were corrupt abusers. However, most of the Mormons I've met have been decent, if misguided, people.

Unlike Colofornian, I don't consider the polygamist splinter sects the same as the mainstream Mormons.

36 posted on 05/07/2010 5:58:45 PM PDT by Grizzled Bear (Does not play well with others.)
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To: svcw
It is a news story.

When it gets posted on FR, it's usually just prurient.

When it comes to people who post, there is no accounting for class.

37 posted on 05/07/2010 6:00:36 PM PDT by Glenn (iamtheresistance.org)
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To: Grizzled Bear; johniegrad; Edward Watson
Unlike Colofornian, I don't consider the polygamist splinter sects the same as the mainstream Mormons

You need to define your terms:
"Same" as in sociologically "same"? (No; the fLDS are more like retro-mainstream Mormons; mainstream Mormons have changed to some degree in the past generations)
"Same" as in theologically "same"? (Of course, distinctions exist)
But "close enough" in all measurements to still be called "Mormons?" (Yup; the mainstreamers don't have a lock on "Mormonhood.")

Even Canadian Mormon Edward Watson, who would disagree with me on much, has agreed with me in a past FReeper discussion that fundamentalist Mormons are indeed a "category" of Mormons.

Their doctrine is toxic and many of their founders were corrupt abusers. However, most of the Mormons I've met have been decent, if misguided, people.

I agree. (I have relatives/family membes who are LDS). I myself am a descendent from Lds blood. But as I usually say when people mention this, if you were auditioning for godhood, you'd be on your best "decent" behavior mode, too.

38 posted on 05/07/2010 6:10:32 PM PDT by Colofornian
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To: Colofornian

Whoa....Colofornian, you have to be a female. Only a woman could tear a man to pieces with her tongue like that. I’m feeling the heat.


39 posted on 05/07/2010 6:13:17 PM PDT by no dems (Palin / Rubio 2012)
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To: Grizzled Bear
As a matter of full-disclosure, I'm an apostate mormon married to a devout mormon.

Would you agree that there is a difference between "anti-mormon" and anti-mormonISM then?

One would be anti-anyone who is of the faith and one would be against the tenets and doctrines of said faith.

40 posted on 05/07/2010 6:17:24 PM PDT by SZonian (We began as a REPUBLIC, a nation of laws. We became a DEMOCRACY, majority rules. Next step is?)
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To: Colofornian
Thanks for your well written response.

Lately on FR, I've grown accustomed to being called a @#$%^, ^&$*@, $%$#%@# and a #$%@#$ when disagreeing with other posters.

The comment that you “hate” Mormons was unduly harsh. I'm sorry; I was out of line.

I still don't consider the polygamist sects the same as mainstream Mormons. Do you consider the Westboro Baptist Church “Baptist” or “Christian?”

41 posted on 05/07/2010 6:17:47 PM PDT by Grizzled Bear (Does not play well with others.)
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To: Colofornian

oh boy another slam Mormons to death post! Gimme some popcorn.


42 posted on 05/07/2010 6:18:05 PM PDT by rrrod
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To: Glenn

One of the great things about FR, is that if you are not interested in a story you don’t have to read it.


43 posted on 05/07/2010 6:26:45 PM PDT by svcw (Habakkuk 2:3)
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To: svcw

If every “news story” was posted here we wouldn’t be able to communicate with each other. The story has no purpose other than to take up space ...


44 posted on 05/07/2010 6:30:28 PM PDT by GOPJ ("Draw Mohammad Day" - - May 20, 2010 - Draw for freedom - draw for your children's freedom.)
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To: Colofornian

They probably published it because it was a local story... that’s not the case here.


45 posted on 05/07/2010 6:31:20 PM PDT by GOPJ ("Draw Mohammad Day" - - May 20, 2010 - Draw for freedom - draw for your children's freedom.)
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To: Grizzled Bear
"Lately on FR, I've grown accustomed to being called a @#$%^, ^&$*@, $%$#%@# and a #$%@#$ when disagreeing with other posters.

Unfortunately, I must agree with you. I can only surmise that many FReepers are really frustrated and are taking it out on other FReepers because of the anonymity of the internet.

The sad thing is, that many have a lot in common and should be able to agree to disagree, but I don't see much of that happening right now.

FRegards,

SZ

46 posted on 05/07/2010 6:32:26 PM PDT by SZonian (We began as a REPUBLIC, a nation of laws. We became a DEMOCRACY, majority rules. Next step is?)
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To: GOPJ

Well, its a good thing on FR that we each get to decide what would be of interest to us and post that story. We also get to ignore what is not of interest.


47 posted on 05/07/2010 6:36:26 PM PDT by svcw (Habakkuk 2:3)
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To: svcw

And we get to comment on the process...


48 posted on 05/07/2010 6:41:32 PM PDT by GOPJ ("Draw Mohammad Day" - - May 20, 2010 - Draw for freedom - draw for your children's freedom.)
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To: GOPJ

Yep, isn’t that great!


49 posted on 05/07/2010 6:43:06 PM PDT by svcw (Habakkuk 2:3)
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To: svcw
One of the great things about FR, is that if you are not interested in a story you don’t have to read it.

Would you let your daughter peruse FR with headlines like this?

Zero class.

50 posted on 05/07/2010 6:46:19 PM PDT by Glenn (iamtheresistance.org)
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