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To: pgyanke
No... I think we can all agree that you would benefit from a better education on the subject.

Actually you should of limited your answer to the question rather then engage in such a transparently childish attempt at topic diversion.

Your response not only proved you don't really believe your "Crusade" argument but also indicated you pretensions to intellectual credibility on this topic are a grotesque fraud.

By saying NO you then agree that Secession was an illegitimate response to the results of the 1860 elections.

BTW, I have a BA in History. So from the point of view of Education, I have a much better grasp of the facts on this topic then you.

42 posted on 05/12/2010 12:26:19 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (The problem with Socialism is eventually you run our of other peoples money. Lady Thatcher)
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To: MNJohnnie
A BA in History?? Write when you find work!

46 posted on 05/12/2010 12:28:48 PM PDT by Genoa (Luke 12:2)
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To: MNJohnnie
My "no" was to your putting words into my mouth... a practice you continue. If your vaunted BA was worth the paper it's printed on, you would know that the Civil War wasn't fought over losing at the ballot box... that's an oversimplification that doesn't do justice to the issues.

Rather than having you speak for me (something I didn't request of you), I will simply explain my view myself...

I agree with the reasons for the South's secession. Whether that was their only (or best) solution is something historians will continue to argue. However, the legitimacy of the action is a fact of Constitutional Law and Founding Father sympathy. The former was the understanding that the ratifying states had the power to dissolve what they had created and the latter is enshrined in the very words of the Declaration which pronounced it the duty of a free people when faced with despotic government.

However, the result of the war was this newfound Federal Supremacy that is morphing our country into the likeness of every other failed nation with a centralized power structure.

In short, the South had a legitimate beef but our country would not have long withstood the world as two opposed states.

BTW, I have a BA in History.

BTW, I couldn't give a rat's ass about your BA. You've demonstrated your ineptitude here beyond the salvage of that magic piece of paper.

So from the point of view of Education, I have a much better grasp of the facts on this topic then you.

Pretentious prick.

68 posted on 05/12/2010 1:27:46 PM PDT by pgyanke (You have no "rights" that require an involuntary burden on another person. Period. - MrB)
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