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The Cavs lose Game 5 (and the series) because of Lebrone James
Sports Illustrated ^ | 05/14/2010 | Ian Thomsen

Posted on 05/14/2010 11:16:29 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: kevkrom

Or as Leon would say, “Ain’t no ‘we’ either.”


21 posted on 05/14/2010 11:46:32 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: dfwgator
The key words of my last post was "in their prime."

No player can do it alone. Jordan had Pippen (one of the 50 greatest ever), and Kobe had Shaq (one of the 50 greatest ever). And the current Laker team has some darn good players around Kobe.

Plus both teams had very clutch role players who complimented the superstars.

Look, Jackson is a GREAT coach. He's great enough to know how to coach superstars and win with them.

22 posted on 05/14/2010 11:47:46 AM PDT by thefactor (yes, as a matter of fact, i DID only read the excerpt)
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To: dfwgator

James has a completely different game than Jordan, or Kobe for that matter. I don’t think you can stick James with a good # 2 utility guy and some other parts and get a title. He could play the Robin to Durant or Kobe or Howard’s Batman and get a title like Pippen.

James has to decide what position he plays. Is he Magic or Jordan or what. He is very good, but he is almost too much of a utility tweener. He isn’t a fantastic great point, 2, 3 or 4. He is just really good at all of them. Whereas Kobe, Jordan, Durant and Howard OWN their roles and dominate the role.

James is more of a Pippen needing a Jordan than a Jordan needing a Pippen.

Just my opinion, and I realize it is the minority one.

And yes of course if Saban was coaching him he’d have 4 rings by now :)


23 posted on 05/14/2010 11:48:23 AM PDT by Crimson Elephant
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To: thefactor

Handling those egos is probably the single biggest asset as a coach on that level.


24 posted on 05/14/2010 11:50:42 AM PDT by Mr. Blonde (You ever thought about being weird for a living?)
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To: laweeks
He’s a self-centered, egotistical bum.
A few years ago, he came to town for a pre-season game and given we're not an NBA city, sold out our local auditorium in a matter of minutes.
So with the stands filled with ten thousand screaming kids (and adults) James never even stepped onto the court. Not even for one minute.
Even worse, he checked in at the officials' table a few times and made believe he was going in.
He really, really p*ssed off a lot of people.
25 posted on 05/14/2010 11:56:28 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: Mr. Blonde
Handling those egos is probably the single biggest asset as a coach on that level.

Exactly. And to be honest how many people can even name the guys who have coached the Cavs since LeBron has been there?

26 posted on 05/14/2010 11:57:22 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: SeekAndFind
Maybe his buddy Barack is available for a game or two of H-O-R-S-E:


27 posted on 05/14/2010 11:59:12 AM PDT by JacksonCalhoun (CT Yankee in NC Exile)
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To: oh8eleven

That’s why more and more I follow soccer. These are guys who play for the love of the game, there are no prima donnas, and there are now some great American players like Landon Donovan and Tim Howard. Today I am probably more passionate about the US National Soccer team than any professional sports team.

People who market athletes really need to take a stronger look at our soccer players for marketability over the thugs that permeate the other sports.


28 posted on 05/14/2010 12:00:55 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: dfwgator
That’s why more and more I follow soccer.
Soccer is a great game if you're playing, but it's just too boring to watch (sorry).
I'm a die hard baseball fan although with teams changing rosters so often, the mega salaried prima donnas, the steroid scandals, etc., my passion is starting to fade.
29 posted on 05/14/2010 12:20:11 PM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: SeekAndFind

Not to defend James too much for his poor performance, but Cleveland has assembled the worst supporting cast of players I have ever seen for any suppposed “contender”. When James leaves the game, the rest of the team looks completely lost and cannot score. This is probably the main reason James will leave, is that the rest of the team is comprised of “players” who cannot play.


30 posted on 05/14/2010 12:22:03 PM PDT by Newtoidaho (Liberals are drooling buffoons backed by satanic goons.)
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To: oh8eleven
Soccer is a great game if you're playing, but it's just too boring to watch

I would concede that watching an MLS game is boring, but a good English Premier League match, or UEFA Champions League match is certainly not boring.

But for Americans it does take an investment to learn about the teams and history of the great European clubs, but once you do, it will draw you in.

31 posted on 05/14/2010 12:22:18 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Newtoidaho

I still say, coaching matters.


32 posted on 05/14/2010 12:23:39 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: dfwgator
a good English Premier League match, or UEFA Champions League match is certainly not boring.
I'm sure you're right. Back in the early 70s we had an NASL team and we got to see Pele, Franz Beckenbauer, Shep Messing, etc.
33 posted on 05/14/2010 12:35:51 PM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: Crimson Elephant

Lebron James reminds me of Chris Webber.


34 posted on 05/14/2010 12:48:35 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: Mr. Jeeves
Kobe Bryant is the real MVP. He wins the big games.

Yeah! For the last 2 years! The NBA tried to "make" a champion with an "award." Sorry, doesn't work that way.

35 posted on 05/14/2010 11:31:13 PM PDT by ConservChristian
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To: thefactor
No player can do it alone.

It's a team sport. There's a reason why Magic Johnson started winning championships when he went pro and Michael Jordan did not even though Jordan always had higher personal stats.

The other reason why a Magic Johnson was more valuable was that he was a team player. He electrified both his team and the fans. It was exciting to watch (especially with 17,504 other people in the building).

Larry Bird was the same, but being a long long time Lakers fan, I hate the Celtics.

36 posted on 05/15/2010 1:53:35 AM PDT by altair (reform (n) - the most abused word in the English language)
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