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Your complete guide to the films of Philip K. Dick
SciFi Wire ^ | 05/17/10

Posted on 05/17/2010 6:48:20 PM PDT by KevinDavis

Have you seen the trailer for The Adjustment Bureau yet (it's below)? That's the one starring Matt Damon and Emily Blunt as two people—a candidate for the U.S. Senate and a ballerina—who meet, fall in love and run smack into a mysterious organization that controls the flow of history. Looks pretty trippy, right? Almost like a story by late science fiction legend Philip K. Dick. Well, that's because The Adjustment Bureau, which comes out Sept. 17, is loosely based on a Dick story called "Adjustment Team," although it seems little of his original story remains.

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Based upon what I saw:
1. Blade Runner --- Boring Influenced Battlestar Galactica
2. Total Recall -- Good Movie
3. Imposter -- So So
1 posted on 05/17/2010 6:48:21 PM PDT by KevinDavis
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To: FrPR; GOP Poet; OriginalChristian; El Sordo; ronnyquest; cizinec; Ronin; HeartlandOfAmerica; ...


A big thanks goes to Visualops for the Banner!!


2 posted on 05/17/2010 6:49:32 PM PDT by KevinDavis (Jesus Saves... Allah Kills...)
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To: KevinDavis

bump


3 posted on 05/17/2010 6:51:20 PM PDT by GeronL (Political Correctness Kills)
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To: KevinDavis

Dick was an amazing talent. Troubled guy, but he gave us a lot.


4 posted on 05/17/2010 6:53:17 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy
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To: KevinDavis

How ‘bout a movie of PKD’s anti-abortion story, “The Pre-Persons”?


5 posted on 05/17/2010 6:55:30 PM PDT by irishjuggler
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To: irishjuggler; All

I don’t know about it..


6 posted on 05/17/2010 6:58:06 PM PDT by KevinDavis (Jesus Saves... Allah Kills...)
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To: KevinDavis
Total Recall was a good movie, but the original short story, We Can Remember it For You Wholesaleis a lot better. The twist at the end of the story was far more mind bending than the end of the movie. I haven't seen Blade Runner or Minority Report, but enjoyed the books Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?(Blade Runner) and the original Minority Report.

By the way, as long as we're talking about great SciFi stories (sometimes screwed up by Hollywood,) here's a link to Supertoys Last All Summer Long in pdf format. It's the short story Stephen Spielberg screwed up making A.I.

7 posted on 05/17/2010 7:01:12 PM PDT by Richard Kimball (We're all criminals. They just haven't figured out what some of us have done yet.)
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To: irishjuggler

Just what I was thinking. Imagine the howling from the left if someone made a movie true to the “Pre-Persons” story.......


8 posted on 05/17/2010 7:02:39 PM PDT by machman
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To: KevinDavis; All

I’m not a huge SciFi fan, but I do appreciate a good story.

Help a Newbie out. I’d like to read some of his short fiction, a form I just love, no matter what the subject.

Is there a short story collection I should start with, and/or where should I start with his novels?

So long and thanks for all the fish, LOL!


9 posted on 05/17/2010 7:22:40 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (Save the Earth. It's the only planet with Chocolate.)
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To: KevinDavis

The article does not mention Screamers, based on “Second Variety”. Pretty close to the original story, very bleak and hopeless, with no happy ending. One character actually mentions Perky Pat, from two Dick stories.

A Scanner Darkly was pretty good from a Dick point of view, the total paranoia was infectious.

Blade Runner was a loss. The original message in Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep was lost, gone, diluted.

Let’s pool resources and do a film on Three Stigmata!


10 posted on 05/17/2010 7:27:11 PM PDT by DBrow
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
Short stories? Try "Anthem" by Ayn Rand. That's a good one.

I'd recommend "Starship Troopers" by Heinlein, too. MUCH better than the movie. "Have Spacesuit, Will Travel" is another good one by the same author.

L

11 posted on 05/17/2010 7:31:56 PM PDT by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Man in the High Castle is a good alternate world novel, pretty accessible. Through a Scanner Darkly is a little more disturbing, but very insightful. Just about any short story collection will be OK, some stories better than others.

http://www.amazon.com/Philip-K-Dick-Stigmata-Eldritch/dp/1598530097/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1274149804&sr=1-4

This should be a good intro.


12 posted on 05/17/2010 7:33:20 PM PDT by DBrow
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To: DBrow

They now have a screamers part 2 and a movie called “Next”which is a copy of The Golden Man one of my fav PKD short stories..


13 posted on 05/17/2010 7:37:34 PM PDT by GSP.FAN (Some days, it's not even worth chewing through the restraints.)
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To: DBrow

The Three Stigmata is a great book.

But I have always been partial to UBIK as being the best thing he ever wrote.


14 posted on 05/17/2010 7:37:37 PM PDT by djf
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To: KevinDavis
P.K. Dick was easily the weirdest of all the sci-fi writers; his vision of reality could not easily be put on film.

Blade Runner is a fine film (one of only 5 titles in my permanent collection, I'm a real film snob) and I highly recommend it. Other films supposedly based on Phildick stories were only so-so at best.

Can't read just one or two phildick books and think you know about Dick. I suggest the entire canon in chronological order including the non-sci-fi Confessions of a Crap Artist.

Of course, if you don't want your mind to get all twisted around, then I recommend not reading any Dick at all.

As far as sci-fi movies go, I recommend Mad Max, it is a very tight and thrilling movie, not a single scene wasted.

I just saw the new DVD Star Trek not because it thought it would be good, I just wanted to see where the franchise was these days. The movie exceeded my not-very-high expectations and I am happy to recommend it to fans of Star Trek TOS. I especially liked McCoy's entrance, I hooted so loud I scared the animals.

15 posted on 05/17/2010 7:37:41 PM PDT by Cruising Speed
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

http://www.amazon.com/Years-Best-SF-David-Hartwell/dp/0061721751/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1274150064&sr=1-1

Dave puts out science fiction anthologies, he’s very well known and does an excellent job. So if you want to read science fiction short stories and novellas, these Year’s Best collections of his are pretty good.

I love short stories, and science fiction shorts most of all.

Gardner Dozois also edits collections.


16 posted on 05/17/2010 7:38:20 PM PDT by DBrow
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To: irishjuggler

That is a great story and PKD said he got a lot of sh*t for writing the short....


17 posted on 05/17/2010 7:39:23 PM PDT by GSP.FAN (Some days, it's not even worth chewing through the restraints.)
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To: DBrow

“Androids” was such a good story and I was greatly disappointed in Blade Runner...if you want to pool money, let’s make a movie from “The Man in the High Castle”...alt history !


18 posted on 05/17/2010 7:43:25 PM PDT by magritte ("There are moments, Jeeves, when one asks oneself "Do trousers matter?")
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

http://www.amazon.com/dp/0806511532/?tag=badosaep

Start here,PKD had hundreds of short stories..
If you like part 1,try the others...


19 posted on 05/17/2010 7:46:34 PM PDT by GSP.FAN (Some days, it's not even worth chewing through the restraints.)
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To: DBrow
Blade Runner was a loss. The original message in Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep was lost, gone, diluted.


Blade Runner is a very different movie if you hadn't read 'Sheep' first, I suggest.

I read 'Sheep' after seeing the movie and was deeply disappointed in the book.

I don't think the two stories have the same essence or point at all.

20 posted on 05/17/2010 7:47:08 PM PDT by Cyber Ninja (Rebuke, Renounce, Repeal, Repeat,...)
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To: Cruising Speed

“P.K. Dick was easily the weirdest of all the sci-fi writers”

J G Ballard? He was out there.

Kilgore Trout does not count.

Or maybe the earlier works of Philippe Jose Farmer, before Riverworld (which is pretty strange in a religious way).


21 posted on 05/17/2010 7:51:27 PM PDT by DBrow
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To: Lurker; Diana in Wisconsin

Props for any of Heinlein’s “juveniles”.

I can’t recommend Heinlein’s later works unless a person has very flexible views of morality.


22 posted on 05/17/2010 7:51:45 PM PDT by El Sordo (The bigger the government, the smaller the citizen.)
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To: El Sordo
I can’t recommend Heinlein’s later works unless a person has very flexible views of morality.

Depends on what you mean by 'flexible'. I, like Heinlein, think that sin lies only in deliberately hurting someone else unnecessarily.

L

23 posted on 05/17/2010 7:55:45 PM PDT by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: magritte

Yes, Castle was probably the “straightest” story he wrote.

Ah if I had 50 million...

As for Blade Runner, someone above pointed out that if you did not read Androids first, Blade Runner was a pretty good movie. I’ll add, and you never read any PKD at all. Expectations.


24 posted on 05/17/2010 7:59:15 PM PDT by DBrow
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To: Lurker

That’s pretty much what I mean.


25 posted on 05/17/2010 8:00:26 PM PDT by El Sordo (The bigger the government, the smaller the citizen.)
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To: Cruising Speed

“P.K. Dick was easily the weirdest of all the sci-fi writers; his vision of reality could not easily be put on film.”

He was definitely weird. I’d add that he was extremely paranoid as well.

A Scanner Darkly stayed close to the books vision.

Blade Runner is great movie but nothing like the book. It should say inspired by PKD.


26 posted on 05/17/2010 8:12:18 PM PDT by CriticalJ (Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of Congress.. But then I repeat myself. MT)
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To: Richard Kimball

Blade Runner is one of the greatest movies of all time (not just sci-fi). I highly recommend seeing this movie. You will not be disappointed.


27 posted on 05/17/2010 8:15:27 PM PDT by bolobaby
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To: Lurker

I’d like to see them do “Wired” by Walter Jon Williams. When Omni was still in print they’d have excellent short sci-fi stories and they ran an excerpt of “Wired” in it and I had to find out more about that weasel and found the book.


28 posted on 05/17/2010 8:16:53 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: bolobaby

“Blade Runner is one of the greatest movies of all time (not just sci-fi).”

I recently saw The Imaginarium of Dr. Parnassus. I urge you to see it too. Terry Gilliam has a masterpiece here.


29 posted on 05/17/2010 8:20:35 PM PDT by DBrow
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To: KevinDavis
This is obligatory:


30 posted on 05/17/2010 8:21:14 PM PDT by bolobaby
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To: Secret Agent Man

Omni was a great mag in its day. G. Gordon Liddy wrote something for them that I’m still looking for.


31 posted on 05/17/2010 8:22:41 PM PDT by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: OnTheDress
"I read 'Sheep' after seeing the movie and was deeply disappointed in the book."

I thought I was the only one. Loved the movie, but the book didn't do anything for me. I will say I didn't care for the Director's cut - I guess I just prefer it the way I originally saw it.

32 posted on 05/17/2010 8:24:45 PM PDT by Flag_This (Real presidents don't bow.)
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To: KevinDavis

Philip K. Dick ranks with Mark Twain as a great American humorist.

Only seen bits and pieces of the films based on his work and detected little to no humor. His gnostic, Germanic theology is absent as well.

In fact, I have detected little PKD in any of the movies.


33 posted on 05/17/2010 8:25:27 PM PDT by Brugmansian
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To: El Sordo
I can’t recommend Heinlein’s later works unless a person has very flexible views of morality.

I'm not at all offended by the group marriage, etc, in his books. But I got so bored wading through all of it looking for actual stories that I gave up pretty quick.

34 posted on 05/17/2010 8:45:56 PM PDT by Darth Reardon (Im running for the US Senate for a simple reason, I want to win a Nobel Peace Prize - Rubio)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

There is something like 5 volumes of short stories, just visit the Philip K. Dick section of your local bookstore or library.

The book that turned me onto Phil was a story collection called The Best of Philip K. Dick but it is long since out of print. I think Father Thing was the first story I read.


35 posted on 05/17/2010 8:57:03 PM PDT by Duke Nukum (I know writers who use subtext and they're all cowards.)
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To: Lurker

The movie “Starship Troopers” was an utter abortion. Horrible, disgraceful and cynical manipulation of the point of the novel. The book isn’t perfect (far too preachy, as much of Heinlein’s later work is) but to distort it like Hollywood did is just plain wrong.


36 posted on 05/18/2010 12:23:25 AM PDT by Vanders9
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To: KevinDavis

Kipple drives out nonkipple.


37 posted on 05/18/2010 12:50:34 AM PDT by FTJM
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To: Lurker; Diana in Wisconsin
wrote: Short stories? Try "Anthem" by Ayn Rand. That's a good one.
I'd recommend "Starship Troopers" by Heinlein, too. MUCH better than the movie. "Have Spacesuit, Will Travel" is another good one by the same author.

Just to clarify, those are short novels, not short stories. I've read two of the three. Starship Troopers might be in the Young Adult section of the library.

38 posted on 05/18/2010 10:23:13 AM PDT by Tanniker Smith (Obi-Wan Palin: Strike her down and she shall become more powerful than you could possibly imagine.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

I have this one, which is quite good:

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0806523794/


39 posted on 05/18/2010 11:38:48 AM PDT by Sloth (Civil disobedience? I'm afraid only the uncivil kind is going to cut it this time.)
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To: Sloth

Thanks. I really liked that movie. It would’ve been so much BETTER without Tom Cruise though, LOL!

I’ll bet the book is miles better...as they usually are. I do prefer ‘the movies in my own head’ versus another interpretation. :)


40 posted on 05/18/2010 5:37:28 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (Save the Earth. It's the only planet with Chocolate.)
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To: Tanniker Smith

Thanks!

Why don’t you post the ‘What Are You Reading’ posts anymore? I miss them! Too busy with Real Life?


41 posted on 05/18/2010 5:41:23 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (Save the Earth. It's the only planet with Chocolate.)
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To: Lurker

” I, like Heinlein, think that sin lies only in deliberately hurting someone else unnecessarily. “

So much for 2,000 years of Christianity. Sigh.


42 posted on 05/18/2010 5:45:16 PM PDT by narses ( 'Prefer nothing to the love of Christ.')
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To: narses
So much for 2,000 years of Christianity.

Really. Well when y'all get your rocks in a pile and figure out which brand of "Christianity" you're selling you let me know.

43 posted on 05/18/2010 6:04:39 PM PDT by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: Lurker

” Well when y’all get your rocks in a pile and figure out which brand of “Christianity” you’re selling you let me know. “

The Word of God. Maybe you heard of that, maybe not. No selling though, a free gift, if you want it.


44 posted on 05/18/2010 6:36:08 PM PDT by narses ( 'Prefer nothing to the love of Christ.')
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To: narses
The Word of God. Maybe you heard of that, maybe not.

Oh I've heard of it, about a dozen different varieties. Is that the Word of God that says I'm going to Hell if I make love to my wife without wanting a baby?

Or is marital sex just for the sheer pleasure of it not a sin? Which one is it? You can't all be right. Right?

Or is it the Word of God that says I'm going to Hell because I enjoy a good Scotch or Bourbon?

Is it the Word of God that says I can't dance if I want to?

Or is it the Word of God that says dancing is OK?

Like I said, when y'all get that silly 'doctrine' thing figured out you let me know. Maybe then I'll darken the door of one of them churches everybody's talking about.

Until then I'll do what Jesus told me to do. "Go into a closet and pray." You remember that part of the Bible. Don't you?

45 posted on 05/18/2010 6:48:56 PM PDT by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
Pretty much. That and because someone else posted a couple and because there's a second Free Republic Book Club, and they are actually allowed to post in the sidebars.\

Maybe I'll do it again before the summer reading season begins. Memorial Day weekend sound good?

47 posted on 05/18/2010 7:11:08 PM PDT by Tanniker Smith (Obi-Wan Palin: Strike her down and she shall become more powerful than you could possibly imagine.)
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To: Tanniker Smith

Any day. Any time. Any book. Anywhere! :)

What DO people do that don’t read? ;)


48 posted on 05/18/2010 7:29:08 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (Save the Earth. It's the only planet with Chocolate.)
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To: Vanders9

“Starship Troopers” - based on the back cover of a novel by Robert Heinlein.


49 posted on 05/18/2010 7:37:14 PM PDT by ctdonath2 (+)
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