Posted on 05/18/2010 10:33:04 PM PDT by It's me
Oh, and it is not the substations that would suffer the most, it is the transformers that download the voltage so they can deliver power to the individual residences...
Free Porn on the Ipad!!!! Whooooohoooooo! Wait, what....?
I didn't say they weren't, I just said that it strikes me as unlikely that Apple will themselves produce one capable of meeting the military standards for ruggedness.
See MIL-STD-810 - Department of Defense Test Method Standard for Environmental Engineering Considerations and Laboratory Tests, to be specific.
My wife will back me up when I say, “I ain’t normal”, period :)
2004 called. It wants its anti-Mac argument back. (Leaving aside for the moment that I've been using multi-button mice on Macs since 1989, and any USB mouse has been supported since 1998.)
Great post. Thanks.
Heh... You DO sound not only perfectly normal, but advanced as well... Maybe you should explain that to your wife!
Well our educational system may not be all that it could be but even when it was at its best, "survival skills" were never part of the curriculum. Typically one would join the Boy Scouts for that sort of thing.
While it would definitely be a real bummer to lose our technology, people would adapt to the new situation very quickly. After all, 99.999% of the human race lived without all the modern conveniences we take for granted today and we are capable of doing so once again.
The notion that people would not be able to survive because they can't use their iPods or watch television is ludicrous. Electricity is simply not necessary for human survival and while civilization as we know it would be severely disrupted without it, we would very quickly adapt and before you know it, life will get back to normal and who knows, it might even be better.
Yes, most would be lost without electricity. In the process of change, many would perish. You are not looking at the whole picture - no food (except non perishable), no uncontaminated water supply, no lights, no heat, no air conditioning. Many would perish within the first few month.
The young would have a better chance of survival, but for many, no...
And of course that would bring on disease which could not be contained with all the dead (no more generation of vaccines - heck, they would all be trying to survive themselves). That would accelerate the death rate by another factor.
One thing to take into consideration is that many people are literally being kept alive by technology. That's why average life expectancy was much lower in pre-modern times. Not that nobody lived into their 80s and 90s, but those that did were typically healthy and free of disease.
Technology greatly extends the life spans of those who are unhealthy and who would otherwise have died already. Dialysis treatments for diabetics, heart-surgery for those with heart disease, chemotherapy for those with cancer, the list goes on. Just look at how many people live well into their 70s and beyond but depend upon a very large amount of pills to keep them going. It is those who are dependent upon medicine that will have the most to lose if we ever lose our electricity.
As I near the age of 50, I still insist on walking vigorously at least two hours a day and other than a 2-week antibiotics prescription for a sinus infection when I was in my 30s, I never took a prescribed drug - ever. I would be nervous if I ever became dependent upon prescription drugs.
“True, many people would die. I was talking about civilization as a whole. It would survive and eventually thrive, even without electricity.”
Well, I was not going to go that far, but it would be set back several decades at least.
“One thing to take into consideration is that many people are literally being kept alive by technology. That’s why average life expectancy was much lower in pre-modern times. Not that nobody lived into their 80s and 90s, but those that did were typically healthy and free of disease.”
TRUE...
“Technology greatly extends the life spans of those who are unhealthy and who would otherwise have died already. Dialysis treatments for diabetics, heart-surgery for those with heart disease, chemotherapy for those with cancer, the list goes on. Just look at how many people live well into their 70s and beyond but depend upon a very large amount of pills to keep them going. It is those who are dependent upon medicine that will have the most to lose if we ever lose our electricity.”
Again TRUE.
“As I near the age of 50, I still insist on walking vigorously at least two hours a day and other than a 2-week antibiotics prescription for a sinus infection when I was in my 30s, I never took a prescribed drug - ever. I would be nervous if I ever became dependent upon prescription drugs.”
Now you sound like me...heh (no prescription drugs ever - and I have a few more years on you). The base line though is that both of us will get sick and either we will require medicine or die. It really doesn’t matter if we exercise daily or anything else, it is mostly in our genes. We just keep plugging along until then.
Now if the electricity does happen to go away - say a NK EMP bomb or Iranian thing... then both of our lives will be shortened regardless of what we do or have done in the past. Now, you may live a bit longer than me, but it really depends on your early training and how you cope with the change. Me, hell, I will just probably give up and assume that I’ve lived a long and decent life...heh.
I would also like to add that I do enjoy your namesake whenever I can - a really good beer!
And fortunately, one does not need the electrical grid to brew decent beer!
Heh...so true... I have attempted to homebrew Sam Adams but have failed to capture the essence. I finally gave up on it...hehe...
This is what I tried but it just never came close to the real thing...that is too bad though, I tried several changes but never could get the same taste as the real thing...
I’ve tried kits, full grain, all failed to capture the taste.
http://www.austinhomebrew.com/product_info.php?products_id=2153
And yes, I’ve tried all the recommended yeasts...
I hope this is not boring you - I’m a great fan of homemade beers and your moniker set me off...heh.
Well, one of these days, I will find a homebrew expert that can tell me how to make my favorite brews - until then, I will continue to bring it up occasionally...
Do not want to intrude...sorry for the off-conversation...
I watched this back and forth with my mouth open in gasped astonishment, that, what otherwise, based on your use of language and syntax, should pass for an educated person, could spout off such utter and complete nonsense about Apple products, trends, marketing and users.
I can only surmise that for reasons unknown and obviously deeply personal, you are outright biased and hostile to Mac, Apple, its markets, products, services and users.
Not one thing. Not one comment. Not one complete sentence has been remotely accurate. I would ask what color the sky is on your world, if I was not somewhat afraid I would get a serious answer which was not blue.
So, being one who sincerely seeks to afford you the benefit of the doubt, and let me be candid, based on your lengthy exchanges, are totally undeserving of this doubt, I would strongly suggest you actually take some time and educate yourself on Apple.
I mean it. Unless, as proffered above, you harbor some deep seeded pervasive and hostile anti-apple psychosis beyond remediation.
Go to an Apple store. Talk with the CUSTOMERS. See who they are. Just strike up a friendly conversation. I know what you will find, because my best friend is a Mac Genius and tells me every day about the 97 year old grandma who has struggled to learn the PC for years her grandkids gave her for some holiday. But, 15 minutes with the iPad and grandma is now on facebook, twitter and even looking up long lost relatives or the children of old friends and emerssed in a culture which was, for these later years of her life, totally alien and undiscoverable.
That is just ONE of HUNDREDS of diverse and exceptional stories, which I am blessed to hear about every day.
There is a reason why Apple is ascending in stock, value, production and market share while ALL other sectors of the entire economy are in recession.... Apple just works.
The iPod, iPhone and iPad are world changing products. But that started with PC Macs who never get viruses, who’s emails are never compromised, and who’s OS is the fastest, most robust, stable and most copied in all of the history of the computer.
And I run Windows on my Mac in emulation every day. I used to have BOTH machines. A PC and Mac, for years going back to my 386sx and my Apple IIe. When Mac went Intel, I sold my PCs and now have 4 Macs.
So, try and be open minded. Cause you have sounded really crazy for more than a little bit of posting today.
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