Posted on 06/03/2010 12:09:49 PM PDT by decimon
Cluster ping.
Sorta junks the old “Khazar” theory, eh?
Prety cool.
They found my family history by following back the evolution of whiskey.
Reading an interesting book now on this pub. 2008
“Jacob’s Legacy: A Genetic View of Jewish History”
by David B. Goldstein
So did they find Abraham’s bones?
Let me guess the “traced” it back to Noah and Shem.
Eve maybe.
What’s so surprising? Isn’t Judaism primarily spread via heredity? In other words, a largely non-proselytising faith.
My relatives on dad’s side traced themselves back to Welshmen who painted their faces blue and howled at the moon.
Duh....
If only ALL faiths can be like this. If you look at the history of "holy wars" they have usually been driven by faiths that proselytize (and I am including communism as a faith here).
The masons stole those.
Wonder how close to Abraham they would be related?
I am told that on one side my ancestry comes from Scotland and along the way a 'full blood' Cherokee woman, but because she was NOT registered on the registry there is NO paper document she was Cherokee.
On the other side my great grandfather stowed away on a ship from Germany in the late 1800's, and I have NO clue if the name he is noted as having is the one he left Germany carrying. There has been no grave site found for him since his death. And I am not sure what bunch he married into once he got here, but I am thinking English.
Now unless Abraham's bones have been discovered I don't see how anybody can claim a lineage to him.
That wish is tantamount to wishing Christianity away. Sure you don't mean that. All of Western civilization which we take for granted today--inalienable rights, equality between men and women, international law, Europe and the west not being islamic--is because of the Christian faith. A great hope in China is the country is being Christianized. Christians are the main force preventing Islam from taking over even more of Africa.
Christians are not about to give up a central tenet of their faith anymore than Jews are. Aside from that, Christianity does not teach conversion by the sword. Not sure to which "holy wars" you refer. The Crusades were defensive, launched centuries after Muslims had raided Rome and sacked the tombs of St. Peter and St. Paul. The European wars of religion in the 16th and 17th century were political events created by the rise of the all powerful state as much as religious and spawned by the break-up of the medieval order (in which their was a balance of power between and among crowns, nobles, the church, merchants and peasants). You will find the "religious wars" were a mixed bag too. Sunni Muslims from Poland fought on the side of Catholics at the gates of Vienna while Protestants from Transylvania were on the side of the Ottoman Turks. Jews allied themselves, at times, with Muslims against the Christian Spanish crown during the Reconquista.
Few people know the history of Islamic invasion of what is now France by the Al-Andulus Muslims in the eighth century. The Franks, led by Charles Martel, defeated the Muslim army at the Battle of Tours in 735 a.d. and spent the next decade pushing them back over the Pyrenees Mountains into what is now Spain. Charles ‘The Hammer’ Martel was the grandfather of Charlemagne.
“genetic links among Jewish people...”? Well duh. If genetic links weren’t there, then that might be newsworthy.
I’m not sure. If the divergence between Middle Eastern and European Jews occurred about 2,500 years ago, then it would seem arguable that the European Jews are descended from the 10 tribes that were carried off by the Assyrians and allegedly scattered into the Caucasus and parts of Central Asia. In any event, it is all interesting.
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