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To: Non-Sequitur; All
ML/NJ: If it were true, would you agree with me that Lincoln was a scumbag?

N-S: If it isn't true will that change your opinion on Lincoln's scumbagness?

Notice folks how this guy, Non-Sequitur, dodged my question. Obama-like, isn't it!

He dodged it because, what I said about "Honest Abe" leaving Mary Todd and the boys to ride on a train that he feared would be attacked IS true, at least according to the people who were with Lincoln when he abandoned that train. It's also true according to biographers of Mary Todd Lincoln. E.g. Turner and Turner’s Mary Todd Lincoln, Her Life and Letters:

She was not free of anxiety … until her own train had passed safely through the restless crowds in Baltimore.
But LIARS, like Non-Sequitur, are more comfortable citing revisionist history. He knows about this stuff because I have pointed it out to him before. I have also quoted to him the reports of a NY Times correspondent allowed to ride with Lincoln (obviously a Lincoln supporter) and the report of Lincoln's own security guy, Pinkerton, who alerted him to the threats.

For those who do not know, I have NEVER lived south of Long Island, NY. I have just learned that all the history I learned in high school isn't all the history there is to learn.

ML/NJ

85 posted on 06/15/2010 4:48:34 PM PDT by ml/nj
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To: ml/nj; Non-Sequitur

The president-elect’s movements would have been public until he changed his schedule. Once he was through Baltimore (in the middle of the night) and in Washington, the danger was over. Mary Todd Lincoln’s subsequent movements without him were not publicized and she could travel in relative safety. The statement about her anxiety on the later train through Baltimore was the author’s surmise.


87 posted on 06/15/2010 5:30:08 PM PDT by Genoa (Luke 12:2)
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To: ml/nj; Non-Sequitur

(It’s not as if she were traveling all by herself.)


88 posted on 06/15/2010 5:48:12 PM PDT by Genoa (Luke 12:2)
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To: ml/nj
Notice folks how this guy, Non-Sequitur, dodged my question. Obama-like, isn't it!

No, it's about all that knee-jerk Lincoln loathers like yourself deserve. And I also notice that you ignored my question as well. Par for the course.

But LIARS, like Non-Sequitur, are more comfortable citing revisionist history.

Revisionist history like David Herbert Donald or James McPherson or Doris Goodwin? Oh, I forget. Anyone whose position differs from historical giants like Tommy DiLorenzo or the Kennedy brothers is revisionist. It's easy to come to that conclusion when one's standards for accuracy are as low as your own.

Donald's description of Lincoln's trip make it clear that Lincoln traveled alone from the beginning. He notes that when Lincoln reached D.C. he sent a telegram to his wife in Harrisburg that he arrived safely. How could that have happened if she had originally been on the train with him?

...Mary Todd Lincoln. E.g. Turner and Turner’s Mary Todd Lincoln, Her Life and Letters...

Even your own source admits Mary Lincoln was on a separate train.

I have also quoted to him the reports of a NY Times correspondent allowed to ride with Lincoln (obviously a Lincoln supporter) and the report of Lincoln's own security guy, Pinkerton, who alerted him to the threats.

By all means post it again. Or for the first time, as the case may be.

111 posted on 06/16/2010 4:25:47 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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