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Riley Fox Killer Left Signed Shoe at the Scene (Innocent Father Spent 8 Months in Jail)
NBC Chicago ^
| Wed, Jun 16, 2010
| NATALIE MARTINEZ
Posted on 06/16/2010 11:28:06 AM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway
OK, I’m confused. The cops “focused their case instead on the girls father, Kevin Fox who confessed to her murder.” Why wouldn’t they?
WTF?
Details missing here?
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posted on
06/16/2010 11:30:55 AM PDT
by
Blueflag
(Res ipsa loquitur)
To: nickcarraway
All of which confirms why coerced confessions are not admissible as evidence.
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posted on
06/16/2010 11:30:57 AM PDT
by
Mr. Lucky
To: nickcarraway
what kind of ball might have been dropped in this part of the investigation They could start by finding who forced a false confession. And how.
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posted on
06/16/2010 11:31:48 AM PDT
by
DJ MacWoW
(If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
To: nickcarraway
They focused their case instead on the girls father, Kevin Fox who confessed to her murder. Charges were later dropped ...
I would hope they sent this guy to a nut farm somewhere.
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posted on
06/16/2010 11:32:16 AM PDT
by
oh8eleven
(RVN '67-'68)
To: Mr. Lucky
How do you know that it was coerced?
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posted on
06/16/2010 11:32:18 AM PDT
by
Eagles6
( Typical White Guy: Christian, Constitutionalist, Heterosexual, Redneck.)
To: nickcarraway
The father will probably not find any solace in the very large amount of money that's going to be coming to him.
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posted on
06/16/2010 11:32:31 AM PDT
by
Psycho_Bunny
(Hail To The Fail-In-Chief)
To: nickcarraway
It is not uncommon for completely innocent people to confess to crimes they did not commit. The phenomenon has been studied extensively and found to be legitimate in a number of studies, private and publicly funded. For this reason, and many others, you should NEVER agree to be interviewed by police for any question more detailed than your name and date of birth, absent competent counsel.
To: Eagles6
Because that’s why innocent folks will confess to a crime they didn’t comit.
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posted on
06/16/2010 11:33:42 AM PDT
by
Mr. Lucky
To: Eagles6
I can’t remember where the article was but it was clear his rights were violated. I think he was denied an attorney for 14 hours of questioning or something along those lines.
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posted on
06/16/2010 11:35:50 AM PDT
by
Psycho_Bunny
(Hail To The Fail-In-Chief)
To: Mr. Lucky
Sometimes they’re just nutz.
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posted on
06/16/2010 11:39:01 AM PDT
by
Eagles6
( Typical White Guy: Christian, Constitutionalist, Heterosexual, Redneck.)
To: nickcarraway
Kaupas said he plans to bring in outside investigators to review the case and their investigative protocols. "Sometimes have to bring in other people who aren't familiar with the area... to come in and show you that over a period of time you might have graduated into complacency with the way your police techniques work," he said. Kaupas now admitted his department "obviously dropped the ball" and says he's lost sleep and agonized over this case.
Uh, no.
"Complacency" and "dropping the ball" might have been involved if an innocent person's car was improperly impounded over a long weekend, or if a parking ticket were wrongly issued for a car that was parked legally.
As far as this case is concerned, how about "conspiring to deprive a person of their civil rights under the color of law" for starters...
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posted on
06/16/2010 11:39:11 AM PDT
by
Zeppo
("Happy Pony is on - and I'm NOT missing Happy Pony")
To: Eagles6
The circumstances surroundinng the confession include a grief stricken father who may blame himself for the child’s death.....
Maybe he thought he should have been watching her more closely - whatever the reason....
It doesn’t appear that the police were grossly incompetent, they had a confession from someone who had access and opportunity....They just didn’t dot the “i’s” and cross the “t’s”.....
As a result, a dangerous and disgusting criminal walked freely through their community for several months...
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posted on
06/16/2010 11:41:27 AM PDT
by
nevergore
("It could be that the purpose of my life is simply to serve as a warning to others.")
To: nickcarraway
What's the problem?
A conviction is a conviction. Doesn't matter whether the guy was innocent, because he's probable guilty of something.
As long as the case is cleared off the books, that's all that matters.
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posted on
06/16/2010 11:41:40 AM PDT
by
E. Pluribus Unum
("The only stable state is the one in which all men are equal before the law." -- Aristotle)
To: OldDeckHand
When I was a Company Commander, several M-16s were taken from a tent during a field exercise. The weapons were stored in a rack when near the entrance to a HQs Operation Center. The CID got involved and the investigation focused on 2 soldiers who had left during the time the weapons went missing. Under extreme pressure and interrogation the soldiers confessed to taking the weapons. Later, the weapons were found on another individual who had stolen the weapons and he admitted he was the one who had stolen the weapons.
To: nevergore
“It doesnt appear that the police were grossly incompetent,”
Wow. I disagree.
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posted on
06/16/2010 11:55:44 AM PDT
by
Flightdeck
(TANSTAAFL!)
To: nickcarraway
OK, I’m lost. I didn’t kill my daughter (or son, or wife, or brother etc.) so I CONFESS to having killed her. Sure, that makes sense. Look, they could waterboard me and use bamboo splints, but if I didn’t do it I’m NOT confessing. Duh!
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posted on
06/16/2010 11:59:09 AM PDT
by
Doc Savage
(SOBAMP!)
To: Mr. Lucky
Coerced? How did they coerce him??? Torture? I doubt it. All you have to say id I want MY LAWYER! End of interrogation. What is it with this nuts. I didn’t kill my daughter but I better confess anyway. Duh?
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posted on
06/16/2010 12:00:57 PM PDT
by
Doc Savage
(SOBAMP!)
To: nickcarraway
According to an ABC News investigative report:
Kevin was taken into a very small room and interrogated for the next 14 hours. According to Kevin's account, detectives told him they had reason to believe that he had killed Riley. "They broke me down mentally, physically, emotionally
but I stayed strong. I knew
I, I denied everything, everything that they would say to me," he said. Kevin said the investigators told him to take a polygraph test, and he agreed, confident he'd pass. But afterwards, detectives told him he had failed. Finally, Kevin broke, offering a statement admitting he killed Riley. Kevin said the detectives showed him pictures of Riley's dead body and refused to let him speak to his father or a lawyer and made graphic threats. Kevin said that the investigators would "have me raped every day I was in there if I didn't say anything."
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posted on
06/16/2010 12:01:38 PM PDT
by
davius
(You can roll manure in powdered sugar but that don't make it a jelly doughnut.)
To: Mr. Lucky
Commit. BS. Every police station in America knows they can’t get away with that kind of backroom crap anymore.
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posted on
06/16/2010 12:02:07 PM PDT
by
Doc Savage
(SOBAMP!)
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