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QUESTION: Does anyone have a link to the "I SAY THIS: THAT I BELIEVE" speech from "The Alamo" 1960.
Posted on 07/01/2010 8:47:16 AM PDT by Yosemitest
I'm looking for the text of "John Dierkes" character "Jocko Robertson" speech in the long version of the 1960 "The Alamo" with John Wayne.
His speech is about 140 minutes into the movie.
It starts with "I say this: THAT I BELIEVE"
and he talks about faith in God and the inability to convince those who do NOT BELIEVE in God.
TOPICS: Religion; TV/Movies
KEYWORDS: god; johndierkes; johnwayne
To: Yosemitest
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posted on
07/01/2010 8:55:02 AM PDT
by
Errant
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posted on
07/01/2010 8:59:00 AM PDT
by
Errant
To: Yosemitest
Wasn’t the character’s wife the one who made the speech?
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posted on
07/01/2010 9:07:21 AM PDT
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Errant
To: Yosemitest
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posted on
07/01/2010 9:08:13 AM PDT
by
BenLurkin
To: Errant
Thanks, but that wasn't it. I like the speech on "The Republic," though.
It starts with
"I say this: THAT I BELIEVE"
I believe that same speech was earlier used it the movie "The Big Trail" by actor "John Dierkes".
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posted on
07/01/2010 9:13:36 AM PDT
by
Yosemitest
(It's simple, fight or die.)
To: Errant
No, I just watched it on Directv.
"Denver Pyle" actually starts the scene.
It's right after Jocko's wife leaves with the rest of the women and children, before the final attack.
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posted on
07/01/2010 9:16:46 AM PDT
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Yosemitest
(It's simple, fight or die.)
To: Yosemitest
Jocko :
I say this : I believe. I can never find a way to argue down you that dont believe, but I believe in the Lord God Almighty, all knowing and all forgiving. [Music.] And I believe that Good shall be triumphant in the end and that evil shall be vanquished. I believe in a hereafter.
From here:
http://johnwayne-thealamo.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=43
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posted on
07/01/2010 9:17:02 AM PDT
by
Springfield Reformer
(Winston Churchill: No Peace Till Victory!)
To: Springfield Reformer
You got it. I was just working on it. I also like Jacko’s wife’s speech, “I may be blind, but I’m just as good as any woman in Texas.”
So many great speeches in that movie.
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posted on
07/01/2010 9:25:25 AM PDT
by
Walvoord
To: Walvoord
To: Springfield Reformer
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07/01/2010 9:41:25 AM PDT
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Errant
To: Springfield Reformer
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posted on
07/01/2010 9:51:39 AM PDT
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Errant
To: Springfield Reformer
Thanks.
THAT'S IT.
Thimblerig: What are you thinking, Davy ?
Crockett: not thinkin. Just rememberin.
(Below, around a campfire.)
Beekeeper: Well, I sure done a heap of things I shouldnv done.
Seemed urgent at the moment
Got myself a heap of sins to answer for.
Wish it werent that biga
I reckon old Saint Petes gonna come and slam them Pearly Gates right smack-dab in my face.
The Atheist: There aint no Pearly Gates.
When youre dead, youre meat for the worms,
thats all there is to it.
Beekeeper: You mean you dont believe in no afterlife, no hereafter ?
The Atheist: Tales for children.
[Uncut version : (02:52:14)
The Fanatic, standing up & brandishing a stick: Man could get himself tarred and feathered for sayin that back where I come from !
Ill have you to know that Im a fully immersed member of the first church of Kings Crossing.
Dont come on beein Kings creek cause the Jordan wasn nearby.
And I believe in hell firing brimstone and the Pearly Gates
and the cloud and harp for them has lived good,
and Hell and Purgatory for them that aint,
and I can whip the man that says there aint no hereafter !
Bob: Friend, I think you said about enough,
because this heres a high-class discussion
if discussion means what I think it do ?
It do: It do.
Bull: Yeah, it do.
Bob: And I think youd better sit down,
cause there aint gonna be no fighting just discussing.]
Jocko: I say this : I believe.
I can never find a way to argue down you that dont believe,
but I believe in the Lord God Almighty,
all knowing and all forgiving.
[Music.]
And I believe that Good shall be triumphant in the end
and that evil shall be vanquished.
I believe in a hereafter.
Bob: Me, too.
I figure a mans got to believe in those things,
does he want to believe in the good things about man about his very own self
[Green Leaves
]
the real good things, like courage, honesty
and love.
(Travis is listening thoughtfully to that rabble.)
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posted on
07/01/2010 9:52:50 AM PDT
by
Yosemitest
(It's simple, fight or die.)
To: Walvoord
here ya' go:
(Dickinsons door-step Music : Green Leaves of Summer.)
Travis: Sue, youd better hurry.
Dickison: She wont go.
Susannah: Save your breath, Will your ever so persuasive breath.
Dickinson, to Travis: Alright, say it: its a sorry man that cant make his wife obey.
Travis: You seem to forget, Dick, that I am too married.
[Music: Tennessee Babe.]
Susannah, to her husband: Ive got to do what I think is the right thing.
Im a soldiers wife. My child is a soldiers child.
(To Travis, Smile Well stay.)
Travis: Very well, Sue. Dick
Susannah, to Dick: Dont be angry with me.
Dickinson: Im not angry. Im proud.
(Travis joins Crockett & Bowie on the front gates stairway.)
Travis: Dick, take your patrol.
Dickinson: Yes, sir.
Travis: Married men, return to your posts !
Open the gate !
Captain Dickinson !
Dickinson: Escort ! Forward ! Yo-ho !
[Music: Green leaves of Summer]
Finn, to a woman on a cart: Maam, I aint got no woman to say goodbye to.
Could I tell you goodbye ?
The woman, handing her hand: Surely.
Old woman driving the cart: Get up boy ! Yah !
Another old woman at the reins of another cart: Jocko, Nell, its time.
Nell: Go on, Jocko. Do the best you can.
Jocko, looking at his departing blind wife & their children: I cant
I cant.
I just cant do it, fellas.
Travis: Colonel Bowie, this is a request and not an order.
But I suggest that as desperate as our needs are, that familys needs are more desperate.
Bowie: Get in that line, Jocko, and move out with your people.
Jocko: You can see how it is.
Its more than a man can bear.
Shes never said a word of pity for herself in the ten years shes been blind
Nell, coming behind him: Will Travis ! Just who do you think you are ?
Travis: Mrs. Robertson, I can assure you that no blame will attach itself to your husband. Bowie: Get moving, Jocko,
or Ill help you along with the toe of my boot.
Nell: Shut up, Jim Bowie !
And you and Travis listen close.
My man aint goin out !
Hes just as much a man as either one of you, and maybe more !
In spite of he aint rich like you, Jim, or fancy educated like you, Will Travis.
Now, Jocko, you get back up on that wall,
cause youre just as good as any man that ever trod leather, and its your right !
And I cant see, but Im just as good as any woman in Texas, and its my right to go and leave you.
Now weve cuddled nice and
said all our goodbyes but
Ill say it again.
Wed be fools not to face it :
youre likely to go and get yourself killed in this battle and
I dont know what youre going to say going through the gates of heaven,
but Im gonna say that no woman ever lived had herself a better husband than youve been to me.
Now go on !
(Cart departs. Spontaneous triple cheer. Music : Green Leaves of Summer, accordion & guitar.)
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posted on
07/01/2010 10:42:50 AM PDT
by
Yosemitest
(It's simple, fight or die.)
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