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Oh my: Mel Gibson tapes might have been doctored
Hotair ^ | 07/16/2010 | Allahpundit

Posted on 07/16/2010 8:26:31 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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1 posted on 07/16/2010 8:26:32 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind
MEL GIBSON RAGING Pictures, Images and Photos
2 posted on 07/16/2010 8:30:00 AM PDT by Snickering Hound
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To: SeekAndFind

I sure hope it is a fake. Either that or they discover Mel was on drugs that she gave him...or SOMEthing. I won’t support the guy if the tapes are real, but I REALLY want to believe that’s not Mel.


3 posted on 07/16/2010 8:30:57 AM PDT by Lee'sGhost (Johnny Rico picked the wrong girl!)
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To: SeekAndFind

This scenario will be interesting to see played out.


4 posted on 07/16/2010 8:34:45 AM PDT by MissTed (Never buy products from ACME.)
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To: Lee'sGhost

While I cannot condone anything Gibson said on the tapes, I’m wondering if the statements made by HER as on the tape were the actual statements she made. She’s rather cool and detached while someone is screaming at her on the phone.

Personally, I would have hung up the first moment he raised his voice and let fly with the expletives and told him further communication was to be made by email or through an intermediary. But there are what now - 8 tapes? There’s more here than meets the eye.


5 posted on 07/16/2010 8:35:26 AM PDT by Right Cal Gal (Ronald Reagan: "our liberal friends....know so much that isn't so...")
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To: SeekAndFind

oddly enough my wife is somewhat sympathetic to Gibson through all this


6 posted on 07/16/2010 8:35:46 AM PDT by wardaddy (I am not in favor of practical endorsements in primaries, endorse the conservative please)
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To: SeekAndFind

I hate to say it, but when I heard these, they sounded really weird...her voice DID sound like it was in a studio and his was too disjointed, even for being stoned...I personally don’t believe they are authentic...not saying our Boy doesn’t have a screw loose, but that doesn’t make him automatically guilty of this.


7 posted on 07/16/2010 8:38:04 AM PDT by jessduntno (A second Great Depression is the path to power. Stop Federal Usurpation.)
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To: Lee'sGhost

having heard “Mel” going off and her speaking replies....we couldn’t stop laughing imagining her reading a script while filing her nails.
and how did these conversations go public ?


8 posted on 07/16/2010 8:39:30 AM PDT by catroina54
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To: SeekAndFind

I did notice that in the leaked recordings I’ve heard, you never hear Mel and Oksana speaking at the same time. Almost always during a telephone conversation, there are points where both parties speak at the same time.


9 posted on 07/16/2010 8:39:48 AM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: SeekAndFind

If on the tapes we hear Mel say the phrases:

“Aye, fight and you may die. Run, and you’ll live... at least a while. And dying in your beds, many years from now, would you be willin’ to trade ALL the days, from this day to that, for one chance, just one chance, to come back here and tell our enemies that they may take our lives, but they’ll never take... OUR FREEDOM! “

We will know for sure the tapes are doctored!


10 posted on 07/16/2010 8:42:25 AM PDT by HereInTheHeartland ("And for that matter what do we REALLY know about HereInTheHeartland?")
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To: wardaddy

So is this wife. Just sounds fake to me, I think she’s grubbing.


11 posted on 07/16/2010 8:43:04 AM PDT by kimmie7 (THE CROSS - Today, Tomorrow and Always!)
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To: catroina54

I agree.However,getting involved with a Russian goldigger
was going to end well.


12 posted on 07/16/2010 8:46:45 AM PDT by Dr. Ursus
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To: wardaddy; SeekAndFind

“oddly enough my wife is somewhat sympathetic to Gibson through all this”

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I agree with her. I believe this woman is over playing the rhetoric to gain more money. People say things when they’re fired up...its none of our business. Its no one’s business unless there is actual violence, then its the business of the police.

They will never paint a bad picture of Mel Gibson in my eyes. I’m just sick & tired of seeing how a woman will go to any lengths to get money out of a man. Mel said she refused to sign a pre-nup...so what other choice does she have to get more money? Otherwise she could have walked a long time ago...

IMHO.


13 posted on 07/16/2010 8:49:28 AM PDT by Atom Smasher
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To: wardaddy
oddly enough my wife is somewhat sympathetic to Gibson through all this

So is mine. The first words out of her mouth when she heard the tape was "It's a setup" and "Mel needs help."

How did the "conversations" come to be so carefully recorded? Just how were they made public? I'm not apologizing for Gibson if he actually said that stuff in that context but there's something very fishy about all this.

14 posted on 07/16/2010 8:51:52 AM PDT by Bernard Marx (I don’t trust the reasoning of anyone who writes then when they mean than.)
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To: SeekAndFind

It boils down to just how conniving this little lady might be.
We all know Mel is quick to anger, all she has to do is push the easy buttons. She easily could have been taping him for months.


15 posted on 07/16/2010 8:56:12 AM PDT by moehoward
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To: Atom Smasher
Mel said she refused to sign a pre-nup.

She refused to marry him. They have/had an agreement mediated through 2 retired superior court judges. She signed it. And reneged.

16 posted on 07/16/2010 8:59:39 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: SeekAndFind
"Acting!"
"Brilliant!"
"Thank you!"
17 posted on 07/16/2010 9:01:33 AM PDT by Flag_This (Real presidents don't bow.)
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To: SeekAndFind

The story is that the creators of South Park met Mel Gibson at a party some years back and concluded he was crazy. They would go on to do a show with his character in it. This was awhile back. Here is a clip:

http://www.southparkstudios.com/clips/154469

Looks like they had him figured out.


18 posted on 07/16/2010 9:02:53 AM PDT by isthisnickcool (NOVEMBER-2-2010!)
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To: DJ MacWoW

Well, there are definitely conflicting reports out there...


19 posted on 07/16/2010 9:06:30 AM PDT by Atom Smasher
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To: SeekAndFind

I don’t believe that any of these tapes, of a private conversation(s), should have ever been made public, period.

Certainly, release them to a lawyer and law enforcement, but not to the public where they are used to prosecute him in the media.

I am in no way defending what ‘seems’ to be his wild, very likely criminal, reckless, threatening and foolish behavior, but quite frankly, this is none of the public’s or media’s business until it’s been fairly adjudicated in a court of law.

I could be wrong, but I think there used to be a belief in the country that one is innocent until proven guilty in a court of law... and it seems to me that there were also some rules of evidence and other such stuff. But heck, maybe I’m just too old fashion in this world of personal destruction.... at all cost.

Those that commit domestic violence should be dealt with swiftly and harshly, but by the courts, not the damn media.

If this guy ASSAULTED her, regardless of the circumstances, he’s nothing but a lowlife. NO WOMAN or man, should tolerate such behavior, because all too often the victim ends up dead or lives an unhappy life of physical and mental pain and abuse. They become slaves kept in a prison.

Having said all of that, and while I love his artistic abilities, I hope he, as well as his wife see justice, but that becomes difficult, if even possible, when the world has already judged you.

Just saying.....


20 posted on 07/16/2010 9:07:16 AM PDT by Gator113 (God save the Republic.....)
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My computer won’t let me do AV stuff so all I’ve heard was from the local talk radio show while I was working, but from what I heard it sounded like he was upset because she dresses like a sleaze and lied to him about having a boob job.

Almost like he thought she would be racy to get him and then turn into somebody not interested in seducing other women’s husbands - that she would turn into somebody more wholesome and faithful, like the wife who he dumped to get this piece of glitter.

I don’t think Mel is the first guy to trash a good woman in favor of a trinket who then trashes him. The fact that his wife is still speaking well of him will hopefully heap burning coals of shame on him and bring him to repentance.

This gal didn’t sound to me like a woman who was fearful, but then again, I only heard a small snippet.

The fact that she would tape phone conversations and then put them into the public does seem like a setup - not like somebody who is fearful or who wants her man to get help.

So my reaction just from the small snippet I heard was about the same as your wife’s.


21 posted on 07/16/2010 9:08:42 AM PDT by butterdezillion (.)
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To: wardaddy

My wife isn’t taking it personally with Gibson either at this point. She thinks he’s coming under attack and he’s failing to deal with it; guess it’s sort of that she feels sorry for him and wants him to survive.


22 posted on 07/16/2010 9:09:06 AM PDT by Mere Survival (The time to fight was yesterday but now will have to do.)
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To: Atom Smasher

That they had a mediated agreement isn’t conflicted. That she reneged isn’t either.


23 posted on 07/16/2010 9:09:16 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Maybe Mel’s rant were outtakes from a movie script rehearsal and she dubbed in her side....


24 posted on 07/16/2010 9:10:12 AM PDT by OCC
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To: DJ MacWoW

And my point is, is that she could have walked a long time ago if she didn’t like the situation...


25 posted on 07/16/2010 9:13:04 AM PDT by Atom Smasher
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To: Gator113

Exactly. How would they find a court to try any case if there had to be a trial.

I think that’s the part I react to. It’s sort of the reverse of “kiss and tell” which just seems classless to me. The way this woman is operating is not the way an abused woman behaves. The psychology of it is all wrong.


26 posted on 07/16/2010 9:13:04 AM PDT by butterdezillion (.)
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To: SeekAndFind

radaronline has pics of her broken teeth, right after he supposedly hit her. Weird that there was no soft tissue damage at all. It looks like her veneers were pried off. I’m withholding judgement for now.


27 posted on 07/16/2010 9:13:34 AM PDT by Raebie
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To: OCC; Grammy
There was a poster on one of these threads that said one can make up stuff out of whole cloth. Her Hubby does it for a living, with music.

Here it is

28 posted on 07/16/2010 9:15:39 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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And my point is, is that she could have walked a long time ago if she didn’t like the situation...

Without the money?! But this is so much more fun. For her. Btw, now the tart is claiming that he slugged the baby. I think she's getting a little out of hand.

29 posted on 07/16/2010 9:17:55 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: Lee'sGhost

Simply being deranged isn’t enough to keep me from seeing his movies. I only ban commie actors who want to enslave my family & I.


30 posted on 07/16/2010 9:19:21 AM PDT by skeeter
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I can't believe these ridiculous posts. This man is clearly unhinged, and there should be no excuses for him. He's a nut-job pure and simple.
31 posted on 07/16/2010 9:21:52 AM PDT by Carl from Marietta
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To: SeekAndFind

Very possible to do with all of the moves and interview he has done to piece together whatever you wanted him to say. I thought listening to the lastest tapes that something did not sound right almost like what used to happen in school with older reel film tapes when you had to repair one.


32 posted on 07/16/2010 9:23:01 AM PDT by chris_bdba
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To: DJ MacWoW

I’m in complete agreement with you here! Now she’s grabbing at straws...


33 posted on 07/16/2010 9:23:17 AM PDT by Atom Smasher
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To: SeekAndFind

Mel has a billion dollars. He can pay someone to analyze them.

I won’t be losing any sleep over this.


34 posted on 07/16/2010 9:23:49 AM PDT by Larry Lucido (You can evade reality, but you cannot evade the consequences of evading reality. ~Ayn Rand)
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To: butterdezillion

It’s all business $$.

Gibson may have been bad, he may have been a real jerk, but he has also been had.

Thar’s money in them there hills.


35 posted on 07/16/2010 9:25:51 AM PDT by Gator113 (God save the Republic.....)
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And your proof is a Russian tart that has children for profit?

A judge put a restraining order on those tapes when she let slip in court that SHE had them. They're released to a gossip site and she has no idea how. Honest. /s

36 posted on 07/16/2010 9:29:53 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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Yup. Let’s hope Gibson keeps his perspective as he has talked about being suicidal. His best friend and agent of 32 years, Lamata (sp), just died the first part of July. Hope Gibson has an anchor (friend).


37 posted on 07/16/2010 9:32:18 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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He can pay someone to analyze them.

She turned them over to the sheriffs dept yesterday, on CD. They are analyzing them.

38 posted on 07/16/2010 9:33:57 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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How did he hit her in the mouth and there not be any damage to her lips and gums? One tooth is perfectly smoothed off. I don’t see how someone can smack you in the mouth and the tooth breaks off PERFECTLY in half.

http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2010/07/world-exclusive-photo-oksana-after-she-says-mel-gibson-punched-her-mouth


39 posted on 07/16/2010 9:34:18 AM PDT by kcvl
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Those lips show no damage. She must have needed new veneers before their trip to Russia. Gotta look perfect.


40 posted on 07/16/2010 9:42:20 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: kcvl

Btw, she claims those pics were taken the next day.


41 posted on 07/16/2010 9:43:16 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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IMHO, he shouldn’t have ever been taped in the first place without his knowledge. I think we can all agree we’ve said things we didn’t necessarily mean in anger.


42 posted on 07/16/2010 9:45:50 AM PDT by goseminoles
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To: kcvl

She doesn’t look like someone in “urgent need of medical care” because she had a concussion and teeth knocked out. If she was hit that hard while she was holding the baby I would think she would have fallen.


43 posted on 07/16/2010 9:50:01 AM PDT by butterdezillion (.)
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Those lips show no damage

For some strange reason, the shape of Oksana's mouth reminds me of Angelina Jolie's...
44 posted on 07/16/2010 9:50:32 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: catroina54
having heard “Mel” going off and her speaking replies....we couldn’t stop laughing imagining her reading a script while filing her nails. and how did these conversations go public ?

I agree that her voice sounds unusually clear, and detached. I can understand Mel being extremely angry, though, not only at her, but mostly at himself for being so blindingly STOOPID for leaving his wife and family for her.

45 posted on 07/16/2010 9:51:03 AM PDT by SuziQ
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To: kcvl

The way the teeth look, he damaged veneers or bonding.

Her lips, particularly the bottom one, is obviously swollen.

Do people really doubt he hit her in the face, he pretty much admits it in the tapes.

How do you people, I don’t know if you either a man or a woman, continue to defend a man who violently hits a woman.


46 posted on 07/16/2010 9:51:48 AM PDT by HearMe
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Certainly, release them to a lawyer and law enforcement, but not to the public where they are used to prosecute him in the media.

That was the whole point, though, to get the public on HER side against him.

It's interesting that his former wife has testified that in their 28 year marriage, he was NEVER abusive to her, or the kids.

47 posted on 07/16/2010 9:53:29 AM PDT by SuziQ
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To: SeekAndFind

Yeah. It appears they’ve been “plumped”. I think Jolies are real. Someone else said that the tart looks like octomom.


48 posted on 07/16/2010 9:53:37 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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radaronline has pics of her broken teeth, right after he supposedly hit her. Weird that there was no soft tissue damage at all. It looks like her veneers were pried off. I’m withholding judgement for now.

Hmmm. Wonder if Mel's lawyer can compel testimony, or pictures from her Orthodontist, if he had applied veneers, to see what her teeth looked like, before the repairs.

49 posted on 07/16/2010 9:57:45 AM PDT by SuziQ
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To: DJ MacWoW

Hope Gibson has an anchor (friend).
____________________________________________________________

He had one until he left her for a Russian tart.


50 posted on 07/16/2010 9:58:03 AM PDT by Mere Survival (The time to fight was yesterday but now will have to do.)
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